SP2 and Active-X

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

My PC with SP2 refuses to allow the HP site to download and install an
active-ex script to check and see if I need updated software. HOW THE
$&*&^%$ bloody hell do I shut that damn thing off? I need this done. Do I
have to uninstall SP2 yet again to allow the HP site to install the script?
Clicking on the bar to allow it didn't work.

How do I get rid of these Sp2 pain in the ass security problems?

My PC is a HP w/W-XP Home/SP2 .

I'm the Owner Administrator of the PC and the only user.

TIA

FS~

[Ted Zieglar]

BOHICA

"You cannot install some updates or programs"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/

--
Ted Zieglar
"You can do it if you try."

"~ FreeSpirit ~" > wrote in message
...
> My PC with SP2 refuses to allow the HP site to download and install an
> active-ex script to check and see if I need updated software. HOW THE
> $&*&^%$ bloody hell do I shut that damn thing off? I need this done. Do
I
> have to uninstall SP2 yet again to allow the HP site to install the
script?
> Clicking on the bar to allow it didn't work.
>
> How do I get rid of these Sp2 pain in the ass security problems?
>
> My PC is a HP w/W-XP Home/SP2 .
>
> I'm the Owner Administrator of the PC and the only user.
>
> TIA
>
> FS~
>

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

"Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message
...
> BOHICA
>
> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
====================================
I can't see any connection between this information and the warning I now
get when I want to install the Active-X from HP's website. How do I get RID
of that SP2 warning thing in I.E.?

Cat roots etc? I don't even understand the terminology at that site. That
page tells you to do things technicians are qualified to do, not average PC
users such as myself. If I mess the the cat roots I have no one here to
help fix my PC.

Can you please just tell me how to STOP this SP2 I.E. warning window from
coming up when I try to download an active X?

Thanks

FS~

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

"Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message
...
> BOHICA
>
> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
====================================
From the site:
When you use the Windows Update Web site to install updates, the
installation fails and the Windows Update.log file contains error 80070643.
•You may receive the following error message when you try to install a
program or update:

I didn't receive an error. A window along the top of I.E. came up and said
to CLICK there if I wanted to install the Active-X from HP. Clicking
*there* did not work. The website you sent me to doesn't address that
issue. I want to get rid of this non-functioning problematic SP2 warning
window - please tell me how.

FS~

[MAP]

The catroot2 folder will be recreated when needed

--
Mike Pawlak


~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
> "Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message
> ...
>> BOHICA
>>
>> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
> ====================================
> I can't see any connection between this information and the warning I
> now get when I want to install the Active-X from HP's website. How
> do I get RID of that SP2 warning thing in I.E.?
>
> Cat roots etc? I don't even understand the terminology at that site.
> That page tells you to do things technicians are qualified to do, not
> average PC users such as myself. If I mess the the cat roots I have
> no one here to help fix my PC.
>
> Can you please just tell me how to STOP this SP2 I.E. warning window
> from coming up when I try to download an active X?
>
> Thanks
>
> FS~

[Ronnie Vernon MVP]

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
<snip>
> I didn't receive an error. A window along the top of I.E. came up and
> said to CLICK there if I wanted to install the Active-X from HP.=20
> Clicking *there* did not work. The website you sent me to doesn't
> address that issue. I want to get rid of this non-functioning
> problematic SP2 warning window - please tell me how.
>=20
> FS~

In Internet Explorer, select Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Custom =
Level button. All of the ActiveX handling options are at the beginning =
of that list.

You can also add the web address of that HP website to the Truted Sites =
list. In Internet Options/Security, select the Trusted sites icon/Sites =
button. Add the web address and click the Add button.

--=20

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" > wrote in message
...
~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
<snip>
> I didn't receive an error. A window along the top of I.E. came up and
> said to CLICK there if I wanted to install the Active-X from HP.
> Clicking *there* did not work. The website you sent me to doesn't
> address that issue. I want to get rid of this non-functioning
> problematic SP2 warning window - please tell me how.
>
> FS~

In Internet Explorer, select Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Custom
Level button. All of the ActiveX handling options are at the beginning of
that list.

## I've already set them to ALLOW this Active-X download but SP2 security
still stops it from downloading. I also added HP as a SAFE SITE and that
didn't allow the download either.

You can also add the web address of that HP website to the Truted Sites
list. In Internet Options/Security, select the Trusted sites icon/Sites
button. Add the web address and click the Add button.

## Yep, I did that already (see above). What else can I try to disable SP2s
security from stopping this HP Active-X download?

FS~

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

"MAP" > wrote in message
...
> The catroot2 folder will be recreated when needed
============
I suspected as much but that's not the problem - see below. I somehow have
to DISABLE SPs security thing from stopping the Active-X download from HP.
Nothing works that I've tried.

FS~
>
> --
> Mike Pawlak
>
>
> ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
>> "Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> BOHICA
>>>
>>> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
>> ====================================
>> I can't see any connection between this information and the warning I
>> now get when I want to install the Active-X from HP's website. How
>> do I get RID of that SP2 warning thing in I.E.?
>>
>> Cat roots etc? I don't even understand the terminology at that site.
>> That page tells you to do things technicians are qualified to do, not
>> average PC users such as myself. If I mess the the cat roots I have
>> no one here to help fix my PC.
>>
>> Can you please just tell me how to STOP this SP2 I.E. warning window
>> from coming up when I try to download an active X?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> FS~
>
>
>

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

Let me add that even though I have security set to ALLOW Active-X downloads
(in Tools/Options/Security) the security bar still opens and says "click
here for more information." However when it's clicked on NOTHING HAPPENS!

PLEASE = how can I either get rid of or disable this security bar short of
uninstalling SP2 again?

FS~
=============
My PC with SP2 refuses to allow the HP site to download and install an
active-ex script to check and see if I need updated software. HOW THE
$&*&^%$ bloody hell do I shut that damn thing off? I need this done. Do I
have to uninstall SP2 yet again to allow the HP site to install the script?

How do I get rid of these Sp2 pain in the ass security problems?

My PC is a HP w/W-XP Home/SP2 .

I'm the Owner Administrator of the PC and the only user.

TIA

FS~

FS~


"~ FreeSpirit ~" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ronnie Vernon MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
> ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
> <snip>
>> I didn't receive an error. A window along the top of I.E. came up and
>> said to CLICK there if I wanted to install the Active-X from HP.
>> Clicking *there* did not work. The website you sent me to doesn't
>> address that issue. I want to get rid of this non-functioning
>> problematic SP2 warning window - please tell me how.
>>
>> FS~
>
> In Internet Explorer, select Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Custom
> Level button. All of the ActiveX handling options are at the beginning of
> that list.
>
> ## I've already set them to ALLOW this Active-X download but SP2 security
> still stops it from downloading. I also added HP as a SAFE SITE and that
> didn't allow the download either.
>
> You can also add the web address of that HP website to the Truted Sites
> list. In Internet Options/Security, select the Trusted sites icon/Sites
> button. Add the web address and click the Add button.
>
> ## Yep, I did that already (see above). What else can I try to disable
> SP2s security from stopping this HP Active-X download?
>
> FS~
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

[The Mitigator]

Dear Free Spirit,
Remember that day you found out about mmc, gpedit and all the fancy ways to
easily tweak your system for every imaginable setting / permission for
system-wide changes that effect all users? Remember how it also is the
overiding force which will be the ruler of your machines domain no matter how
you try and try to change settings from any other account, tweak, uninstall /
install; well maybe you don't remember the second part, but it is true. So,
what this means is you need to alter the settings in mmc specifically with
gpedit which even more troublesome has possibly been uninstalled or no longer
easily opened since it no longer exists, except of course in settings that
were made that are permanent until changed by way of mmc using gpedit (in
author mode), and then saved in the "Console Root". This is, by the way if
you are running XP Pro which I mistakenly assumed after reading your
frustration level and remembering a similar experience (like a David
Letterman flashback) as if it was just yesterday....yes, clicking in that
&*%$ information bar, (for more information) and having nothing happen... I
remember that!
Now, if in fact it is XP Pro on your machine, you could get lucky and try
RUN> mmc, and hopefully you will launch right into it. But, if, like I, found
it not as fun as it sounded and then tweaked around some more causing it to
not appear, (mmc I'm talking about), you will then need to install the
capability to run mmc, in the author mode, in order to change settings in the
IE security section of the "Console Root", then close said "Console Root" for
settings to take place. I'm thinking it may not even need a reboot for
changes to become effective, not sure.
To open a saved MMC console for a local computer
If you are using Windows XP Professional or Windows XP Home Edition,
Click Start,
Click Control Panel,
Click Administrative Tools,
Click console.
Notes

Other options for opening consoles:
You can also open console files by using Run As. With this command, you can
log on to your computer with user rights to perform routine tasks, but open
console files to perform administrative tasks with Administrator rights as
necessary. You can use this command by typing runas at the command prompt or
by right-clicking an .msc file, and then clicking Run As.
Open the folder where your console is located, and then click the console.
If you are using Windows 2000, click here for instructions:
Click Start,
Click Settings,
Click Control Panel,
Click Administrative Tools,
Click console.
By default, console files are not available from the Administrative Tools
folder on the Programs menu. However, if you create a custom console and save
it to the per-user Administrative Tools folder (located at
systemdrive\Documents and Settings\user\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative
Tools), this folder appears on the Programs menu for that user.
Related Topics
Since there are so many possibilities as to just what permissions are set on
your machine at this time, it is not easily explained for all possibile
situations. Remember this though: Don't Worry!, it can and will be OK!!
Besides, those all-so-sought-after HP updates probably aren't as important as
they may have you believe, you're still able to come here for help, right?
Main point is to look in HELP for GROUP POLICY settings which is what needs
adjustment. Other key words / phrases include mmc, mcs., Microsoft
Management, Group Policy, Author Mode.... I'm confident you will succeed.
Have a Great Day!!

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote:

> Let me add that even though I have security set to ALLOW Active-X downloads
> (in Tools/Options/Security) the security bar still opens and says "click
> here for more information." However when it's clicked on NOTHING HAPPENS!
>
> PLEASE = how can I either get rid of or disable this security bar short of
> uninstalling SP2 again?
>
> FS~
> =============
> My PC with SP2 refuses to allow the HP site to download and install an
> active-ex script to check and see if I need updated software. HOW THE
> $&*&^%$ bloody hell do I shut that damn thing off? I need this done. Do I
> have to uninstall SP2 yet again to allow the HP site to install the script?
>
> How do I get rid of these Sp2 pain in the ass security problems?
>
> My PC is a HP w/W-XP Home/SP2 .
>
> I'm the Owner Administrator of the PC and the only user.
>
> TIA
>
> FS~
>
> FS~
>
>
> "~ FreeSpirit ~" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
> > <snip>
> >> I didn't receive an error. A window along the top of I.E. came up and
> >> said to CLICK there if I wanted to install the Active-X from HP.
> >> Clicking *there* did not work. The website you sent me to doesn't
> >> address that issue. I want to get rid of this non-functioning
> >> problematic SP2 warning window - please tell me how.
> >>
> >> FS~
> >
> > In Internet Explorer, select Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Custom
> > Level button. All of the ActiveX handling options are at the beginning of
> > that list.
> >
> > ## I've already set them to ALLOW this Active-X download but SP2 security
> > still stops it from downloading. I also added HP as a SAFE SITE and that
> > didn't allow the download either.
> >
> > You can also add the web address of that HP website to the Truted Sites
> > list. In Internet Options/Security, select the Trusted sites icon/Sites
> > button. Add the web address and click the Add button.
> >
> > ## Yep, I did that already (see above). What else can I try to disable
> > SP2s security from stopping this HP Active-X download?
> >
> > FS~
> >
> > --
> >
> > Ronnie Vernon
> > Microsoft MVP
> > Windows Shell/User
> >
> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>
>

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

"The Mitigator" <The > wrote in message
...
> Dear Free Spirit,
> Remember that day you found out about mmc, gpedit and all the fancy ways
> to
> easily tweak your system for every imaginable setting / permission for
> system-wide changes that effect all users?

** Actually I'm not sure what you're referring to - mmc? gpedit? I am the
administrator of this PC if that's what you mean.

Remember how it also is the
> overiding force which will be the ruler of your machines domain no matter
> how
> you try and try to change settings from any other account, tweak,
> uninstall /
> install; well maybe you don't remember the second part, but it is true.
> So,
> what this means is you need to alter the settings in mmc specifically with
> gpedit which even more troublesome has possibly been uninstalled or no
> longer
> easily opened since it no longer exists,

** I have no idea what you are talking about. Do you mean the things XP-Pro
has that XP-Home doesn't? My PC is XP-Home/Sp2 at this time.

except of course in settings that
> were made that are permanent until changed by way of mmc using gpedit (in
> author mode), and then saved in the "Console Root". This is, by the way if
> you are running XP Pro which I mistakenly assumed after reading your
> frustration level and remembering a similar experience (like a David
> Letterman flashback) as if it was just yesterday....yes, clicking in that
> &*%$ information bar, (for more information) and having nothing happen...
> I
> remember that!

** I don't remember a mmc or a gpedit?!?!?!?!

> Now, if in fact it is XP Pro on your machine, you could get lucky and try
> RUN> mmc, and hopefully you will launch right into it. But, if, like I,
> found
> it not as fun as it sounded and then tweaked around some more causing it
> to
> not appear, (mmc I'm talking about), you will then need to install the
> capability to run mmc, in the author mode, in order to change settings in
> the
> IE security section of the "Console Root", then close said "Console Root"
> for
> settings to take place.

** I haven't a clue what you're talking about - honestly. :-) My PC is
XP-HOME addition.

I'm thinking it may not even need a reboot for
> changes to become effective, not sure.
> To open a saved MMC console for a local computer
> If you are using Windows XP Professional or Windows XP Home Edition,
> Click Start,
> Click Control Panel,
> Click Administrative Tools,
> Click console.
> Notes

** Is this in reference to disable the SP2 I.E. bar?

> Other options for opening consoles:
> You can also open console files by using Run As. With this command, you
> can
> log on to your computer with user rights to perform routine tasks, but
> open
> console files to perform administrative tasks with Administrator rights as
> necessary. You can use this command by typing runas at the command prompt
> or
> by right-clicking an .msc file, and then clicking Run As.
> Open the folder where your console is located, and then click the console.
> If you are using Windows 2000, click here for instructions:

** What the heck is a console?

> Click Start,
> Click Settings,
> Click Control Panel,
> Click Administrative Tools,
> Click console.

** There is no Console listed there in XP-Home.

> By default, console files are not available from the Administrative Tools
> folder on the Programs menu. However, if you create a custom console and
> save
> it to the per-user Administrative Tools folder (located at
> systemdrive\Documents and Settings\user\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative
> Tools), this folder appears on the Programs menu for that user.
> Related Topics
> Since there are so many possibilities as to just what permissions are set
> on
> your machine at this time, it is not easily explained for all possibile
> situations.

** And you're not talking about XP-Home addition either..... ;-)

Remember this though: Don't Worry!, it can and will be OK!!
> Besides, those all-so-sought-after HP updates probably aren't as important
> as
> they may have you believe, you're still able to come here for help, right?
> Main point is to look in HELP for GROUP POLICY settings which is what
> needs
> adjustment.

** There is no "Group Policy Setting" in XP-Home. None listed in Helpfiles
either.

Other key words / phrases include mmc, mcs., Microsoft
> Management, Group Policy, Author Mode.... I'm confident you will succeed.
> Have a Great Day!!

** You too!

FS~


>
> "~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote:
>
>> Let me add that even though I have security set to ALLOW Active-X
>> downloads
>> (in Tools/Options/Security) the security bar still opens and says "click
>> here for more information." However when it's clicked on NOTHING
>> HAPPENS!
>>
>> PLEASE = how can I either get rid of or disable this security bar short
>> of
>> uninstalling SP2 again?
>>
>> FS~
>> =============
>> My PC with SP2 refuses to allow the HP site to download and install an
>> active-ex script to check and see if I need updated software. HOW THE
>> $&*&^%$ bloody hell do I shut that damn thing off? I need this done. Do
>> I
>> have to uninstall SP2 yet again to allow the HP site to install the
>> script?
>>
>> How do I get rid of these Sp2 pain in the ass security problems?
>>
>> My PC is a HP w/W-XP Home/SP2 .
>>
>> I'm the Owner Administrator of the PC and the only user.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> FS~
>>
>> FS~
>>
>>
>> "~ FreeSpirit ~" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "Ronnie Vernon MVP" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
>> > <snip>
>> >> I didn't receive an error. A window along the top of I.E. came up and
>> >> said to CLICK there if I wanted to install the Active-X from HP.
>> >> Clicking *there* did not work. The website you sent me to doesn't
>> >> address that issue. I want to get rid of this non-functioning
>> >> problematic SP2 warning window - please tell me how.
>> >>
>> >> FS~
>> >
>> > In Internet Explorer, select Tools/Internet Options/Security tab/Custom
>> > Level button. All of the ActiveX handling options are at the beginning
>> > of
>> > that list.
>> >
>> > ## I've already set them to ALLOW this Active-X download but SP2
>> > security
>> > still stops it from downloading. I also added HP as a SAFE SITE and
>> > that
>> > didn't allow the download either.
>> >
>> > You can also add the web address of that HP website to the Truted Sites
>> > list. In Internet Options/Security, select the Trusted sites icon/Sites
>> > button. Add the web address and click the Add button.
>> >
>> > ## Yep, I did that already (see above). What else can I try to disable
>> > SP2s security from stopping this HP Active-X download?
>> >
>> > FS~
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Ronnie Vernon
>> > Microsoft MVP
>> > Windows Shell/User
>> >
>> > http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>
>>

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:09:38 -0500, "~ FreeSpirit ~"
>"Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message

>> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
>====================================
>I can't see any connection between this information and the warning I now
>get when I want to install the Active-X from HP's website. How do I get RID
>of that SP2 warning thing in I.E.?
>
>Cat roots etc? I don't even understand the terminology at that site. That
>page tells you to do things technicians are qualified to do, not average PC
>users such as myself. If I mess the the cat roots I have no one here to
>help fix my PC.
>
>Can you please just tell me how to STOP this SP2 I.E. warning window from
>coming up when I try to download an active X?

One way is to put the relevant HP site into your list of URLs in the
Trusted Zone (IE, Tools, Options, Security, Trusted Zone).

ActiveX controls can be lethal. I would strongly advise against
allowing *all* web sites to drop arbitrary ActiveX controls on your
PC. You may well wish you could go back to a working system with
annoying warnings, after being nailed by commercial malware and
sometimesworse, delivered through ActiveX intrusions.



>------------ ----- --- -- - - - -
Drugs are usually safe. Inject? (Y/n)
>------------ ----- --- -- - - - -

[~ FreeSpirit ~]

"cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" > wrote in
message ...
> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:09:38 -0500, "~ FreeSpirit ~"
>>"Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message
>
>>> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
>>====================================
>>I can't see any connection between this information and the warning I now
>>get when I want to install the Active-X from HP's website. How do I get
>>RID
>>of that SP2 warning thing in I.E.?
>>
>>Cat roots etc? I don't even understand the terminology at that site.
>>That
>>page tells you to do things technicians are qualified to do, not average
>>PC
>>users such as myself. If I mess the the cat roots I have no one here to
>>help fix my PC.
>>
>>Can you please just tell me how to STOP this SP2 I.E. warning window from
>>coming up when I try to download an active X?
>
> One way is to put the relevant HP site into your list of URLs in the
> Trusted Zone (IE, Tools, Options, Security, Trusted Zone).

## I already did that. It doesn't work. The Bar still stops all downloads
from HP and MS plus other things. I want to know how to disable it so I can
download what I want.

> ActiveX controls can be lethal.

## Yes, I'm aware of that.

I would strongly advise against
> allowing *all* web sites to drop arbitrary ActiveX controls on your
> PC.

## I never allowed that.

You may well wish you could go back to a working system with
> annoying warnings, after being nailed by commercial malware and
> sometimesworse, delivered through ActiveX intrusions.

## I agree, now how do I disable this security bar so I can download
critical MS updates and allow the HP site to scan my system for updates?

FS~

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

There are times when you just have to enable ActiveX..its that simple.. I do
it without problems.. I am just careful what I activate.. if you take the
'blanket' view not to ever allow anything, problems will follow..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"~ FreeSpirit ~" > wrote in message
...
>
> "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" > wrote in
> message ...
>> On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 14:09:38 -0500, "~ FreeSpirit ~"
>>>"Ted Zieglar" > wrote in message
>>
>>>> "You cannot install some updates or programs"
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822798/
>>>====================================
>>>I can't see any connection between this information and the warning I now
>>>get when I want to install the Active-X from HP's website. How do I get
>>>RID
>>>of that SP2 warning thing in I.E.?
>>>
>>>Cat roots etc? I don't even understand the terminology at that site.
>>>That
>>>page tells you to do things technicians are qualified to do, not average
>>>PC
>>>users such as myself. If I mess the the cat roots I have no one here to
>>>help fix my PC.
>>>
>>>Can you please just tell me how to STOP this SP2 I.E. warning window from
>>>coming up when I try to download an active X?
>>
>> One way is to put the relevant HP site into your list of URLs in the
>> Trusted Zone (IE, Tools, Options, Security, Trusted Zone).
>
> ## I already did that. It doesn't work. The Bar still stops all
> downloads from HP and MS plus other things. I want to know how to disable
> it so I can download what I want.
>
>> ActiveX controls can be lethal.
>
> ## Yes, I'm aware of that.
>
> I would strongly advise against
>> allowing *all* web sites to drop arbitrary ActiveX controls on your
>> PC.
>
> ## I never allowed that.
>
> You may well wish you could go back to a working system with
>> annoying warnings, after being nailed by commercial malware and
>> sometimesworse, delivered through ActiveX intrusions.
>
> ## I agree, now how do I disable this security bar so I can download
> critical MS updates and allow the HP site to scan my system for updates?
>
> FS~