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TMan
December 4th 05, 03:36 PM
Hello,



I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does a
check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only has
2GB free.



I can not get to the part of the installation which would allow me to state
which drive to install the game on.



Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on the drive?
I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game to get by the
checking part.

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
December 4th 05, 04:21 PM
In ,
TMan > typed:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
> does a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do
> not have enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C
> drive only has 2GB free.
>
>
>
> I can not get to the part of the installation which would allow me to
> state which drive to install the game on.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on the
> drive? I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game to
> get by the checking part.

Not sure, but why not contact the game mfr. for help with their crappy
installation routine?

Malke
December 4th 05, 04:26 PM
TMan wrote:


> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
> does a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do
> not have
> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive
> only has 2GB free.

> I can not get to the part of the installation which would allow me to
> state which drive to install the game on.

> Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on the
> drive? I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game to get
> by the checking part.

Ask the game's tech support people if there is a workaround. Even if you
could somehow change Windows' perception of hard drive space (and I
don't believe you can), I doubt this would be a good idea.

Malke
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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
December 4th 05, 04:43 PM
TMan

There is generally a point in a game's installation routine that allows for
installing to a drive other than the default C: entry.. it is just a case of
recognising it.. contact the game authors for more information..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"TMan" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does
> a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
> has 2GB free.
>
>
>
> I can not get to the part of the installation which would allow me to
> state which drive to install the game on.
>
>
>
> Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on the
> drive? I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game to get by
> the checking part.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Squire
December 4th 05, 05:21 PM
You can use the XCOPY command at the CMD prompt to copy to any partition or
drive.
Be sure to type CD\ to put you in the root directory first.

When you set up a program to run, like your games,
It runs in Ram memory.
When the Ram memory gets full, it resorts to paging files in a reserved
section on your C: drive.
This can use up a lot of space in a very short time.

You can create a paging file on the 1st part of your second hard drive, by
creating a partition dedicated to paging files.
This partition can be any size you want but usually not much over 2 gb. in
size.
If you use a Partition manager, such as Partition Magic, you can do this
without losing any programs already installed.

Now then,

After you create the new partition and have rebooted,
Right click My Computer and select Properties,
Click the Advanced tab and under Performance, click the Settings button,
Click Advanced tab again,
Under Virtual Memory, click the Change button.
In the Drive [volume label] window,
You should see all the drive partitons.
1. Highlight C: drive
click Custom size and set Initial 2 Maximum 50
Click SET.
2. Highlight drive you set up for paging file,
Click System managed size.
Click SET

If you have other drives, highlight them and click No Paging File
OK your way out to the desktop and REBOOT.



"TMan" > wrote in message
...
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does
> a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
> has 2GB free.
<Snip>

Rock
December 4th 05, 05:24 PM
TMan wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does a
> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only has
> 2GB free.

You should resolve the issue of having only 2GB free on the C drive.
That's not enough breathing space for XP. Get a bigger one or move
something. Drives are low cost these days.

--
Rock
MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

Squire
December 4th 05, 05:29 PM
After you get your game installed, you can create a shortcut to it, using
the Exe file in the game, to start the game.

TMan
December 4th 05, 05:31 PM
The only thing on my 4GB C drive is Windows and system files. All other
apps and paging file etc are on a seperate drive and partitions.

I'll contact the game manufacture (highly unlikely they will be of help
:) ).


Cheers!

D.Currie
December 4th 05, 06:18 PM
"TMan" > wrote in message
...
> The only thing on my 4GB C drive is Windows and system files. All other
> apps and paging file etc are on a seperate drive and partitions.
>
> I'll contact the game manufacture (highly unlikely they will be of help
> :) ).
>
>
> Cheers!
>

Unfortunately, almost every program you install needs to put things into the
Windows directory, so each install chips away at that space. There's little
you can do about that. If it's truly a 4Gb drive, it's pretty darned old and
you should consider getting something newer. If it's a partition and you've
got 100Gb free on the other side, what harm is there in expanding the space
Windows uses?

Plato
December 4th 05, 10:12 PM
TMan wrote:
>
> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does a
> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only has
> 2GB free.

MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.


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Ken Blake, MVP
December 4th 05, 10:23 PM
Plato wrote:

>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
>> does a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do
>> not have enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my
>> C drive only has 2GB free.
>
> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.




My C: drive is a media card reader. Where can I get a 10 GB media card,
please? ;-)


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Please reply to the newsgroup

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
December 4th 05, 10:54 PM
Plato

As I understood, 15% or more is required for Defrag to work, and 25% enables
all other functions to work easily, as in the case of a memory dump on the
occasion of XP crashing out..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
...
> TMan wrote:
>>
>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does
>> a
>> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>> has
>> 2GB free.
>
> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>
>
> --
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>
>

David Candy
December 4th 05, 11:12 PM
A memory dump requires that page file = installed memory. These aren't magical figures but rules of thumbs. Even with defrag, 15% is defrag's rule of thumb.

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"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message ...
> Plato
>
> As I understood, 15% or more is required for Defrag to work, and 25% enables
> all other functions to work easily, as in the case of a memory dump on the
> occasion of XP crashing out..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
> ...
>> TMan wrote:
>>>
>>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does
>>> a
>>> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>>> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>>> has
>>> 2GB free.
>>
>> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>>
>>
>
>

Plato
December 4th 05, 11:20 PM
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
>
> > MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>
> My C: drive is a media card reader. Where can I get a 10 GB media card,
> please? ;-)

Ask your buddies at MS. I didn't write the recommendation.



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Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
December 5th 05, 12:34 AM
David

I think that Defrag tells you if there is less than 15%..

--
Mike Hall
MVP - Windows Shell/User


"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
...
A memory dump requires that page file = installed memory. These aren't
magical figures but rules of thumbs. Even with defrag, 15% is defrag's rule
of thumb.

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=================================================
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> Plato
>
> As I understood, 15% or more is required for Defrag to work, and 25%
> enables
> all other functions to work easily, as in the case of a memory dump on the
> occasion of XP crashing out..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
> ...
>> TMan wrote:
>>>
>>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
>>> does
>>> a
>>> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>>> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>>> has
>>> 2GB free.
>>
>> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>>
>>
>
>

David Candy
December 5th 05, 12:37 AM
It does, but you can say do it anyway.

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"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message ...
> David
>
> I think that Defrag tells you if there is less than 15%..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> ...
> A memory dump requires that page file = installed memory. These aren't
> magical figures but rules of thumbs. Even with defrag, 15% is defrag's rule
> of thumb.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Read David defending the concept of violence.
> http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
> =================================================
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Plato
>>
>> As I understood, 15% or more is required for Defrag to work, and 25%
>> enables
>> all other functions to work easily, as in the case of a memory dump on the
>> occasion of XP crashing out..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> TMan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
>>>> does
>>>> a
>>>> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>>>> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>>>> has
>>>> 2GB free.
>>>
>>> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)
December 5th 05, 12:44 AM
Just takes even longer.. :-)

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
...
It does, but you can say do it anyway.

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=================================================
"Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> David
>
> I think that Defrag tells you if there is less than 15%..
>
> --
> Mike Hall
> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>
>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> ...
> A memory dump requires that page file = installed memory. These aren't
> magical figures but rules of thumbs. Even with defrag, 15% is defrag's
> rule
> of thumb.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Read David defending the concept of violence.
> http://margokingston.typepad.com/harry_version_2/2005/10/entering_the_ga.html#more
> =================================================
> "Mike Hall (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Plato
>>
>> As I understood, 15% or more is required for Defrag to work, and 25%
>> enables
>> all other functions to work easily, as in the case of a memory dump on
>> the
>> occasion of XP crashing out..
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall
>> MVP - Windows Shell/User
>>
>>
>> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> TMan wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
>>>> does
>>>> a
>>>> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>>>> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>>>> has
>>>> 2GB free.
>>>
>>> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

TMan
December 5th 05, 02:01 AM
10GB... good to know.

Looks like I will be doing a new install just to install this damn game. :(


"Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
...
> TMan wrote:
>>
>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does
>> a
>> check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>> enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>> has
>> 2GB free.
>
> MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>
>
> --
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>
>

Alias
December 5th 05, 02:30 AM
TMan wrote:
> 10GB... good to know.
>
> Looks like I will be doing a new install just to install this damn game. :(
>
>
> "Plato" <|@|.|> wrote in message
> ...
>
>>TMan wrote:
>>
>>>I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install does
>>>a
>>>check for the amount of space available and reports that I do not have
>>>enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C drive only
>>>has
>>>2GB free.
>>
>>MS recommends that you have at least 10 gig free on C: at all times.
>>
>>
>>--
>>http://www.bootdisk.com/
>>
>>
>
>
>

15%, not 10 gig. My C: is 15 gig and I have a little under 8 gig free
and experience no problems whatsoever.

Alias

st.daniel
December 5th 05, 02:34 AM
"TMan" wrote:
Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on the drive?
> I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game to get by the
> checking part.

Not "fake", but, According to the MS Knowledge Base, this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307889
"You can also use mounted drives when you need additional storage space on a
volume. If you map a folder on that volume to another volume with available
disk space (for example, 2 gigabytes), you extend the storage space of the
volume by 2 gigabytes (GB). With mounted drives, you are not limited by the
size of the volume in which the folder is created."

See the entire article to see if that works for you.

Rock
December 5th 05, 07:44 AM
TMan wrote:

> The only thing on my 4GB C drive is Windows and system files. All other
> apps and paging file etc are on a seperate drive and partitions.
>
> I'll contact the game manufacture (highly unlikely they will be of help
> :) ).
>
>
> Cheers!

That's not enough. Save yourself the grief and upgrade.

--
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MS MVP Windows - Shell/User

David Candy
December 5th 05, 08:03 AM
It's probably not crappy. I'd say his system is not configured properly. I suspect Program Files are still set to C.

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"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]" hoo.com> wrote in message ...
>
>
> In ,
> TMan > typed:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
>> does a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do
>> not have enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my C
>> drive only has 2GB free.
>>
>>
>>
>> I can not get to the part of the installation which would allow me to
>> state which drive to install the game on.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on the
>> drive? I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game to
>> get by the checking part.
>
> Not sure, but why not contact the game mfr. for help with their crappy
> installation routine?
>
>

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
December 5th 05, 03:50 PM
In ,
David Candy <.> typed:
> It's probably not crappy. I'd say his system is not configured
> properly. I suspect Program Files are still set to C.

I'd be amazed if this application required more than 2GB of free space - and
if the setup routine doesn't allow him to direct the installation where he
wants it to go, that's a crappy setup routine.

>
>>
>>
>> In ,
>> TMan > typed:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have run into an issue with installing a game. During the install
>>> does a check for the amount of space available and reports that I do
>>> not have enough space. However, my D drive has 100GB free while my
>>> C drive only has 2GB free.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can not get to the part of the installation which would allow me
>>> to state which drive to install the game on.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a way to "fake" the amount of space that is remaining on
>>> the drive? I believe if there is a way I could simply fool the game
>>> to get by the checking part.
>>
>> Not sure, but why not contact the game mfr. for help with their
>> crappy installation routine?

Bruce Chambers
December 6th 05, 01:41 AM
Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:

>
>
> I'd be amazed if this application required more than 2GB of free space -


It depends upon the "application," I'd think. For instance, my Diablo
II folder is 1.7 Gb; there are probably some other, newer games that, if
one elects to a full installation, take more space.


> and
> if the setup routine doesn't allow him to direct the installation where he
> wants it to go, that's a crappy setup routine.
>
>


No argument there.


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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]
December 6th 05, 02:49 PM
In ,
Bruce Chambers > typed:
> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'd be amazed if this application required more than 2GB of free
>> space -
>
>
> It depends upon the "application," I'd think. For instance, my Diablo
> II folder is 1.7 Gb; there are probably some other, newer games that,
> if one elects to a full installation, take more space.

Could be - I don't install/play games on my computer, so I don't have a lot
of experience with 'em.

>
>
>> and
>> if the setup routine doesn't allow him to direct the installation
>> where he wants it to go, that's a crappy setup routine.
>>
>>
>
>
> No argument there.

Bob I
December 6th 05, 03:32 PM
What realm you play on?

Bruce Chambers wrote:

> Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I'd be amazed if this application required more than 2GB of free space -
>
>
>
> It depends upon the "application," I'd think. For instance, my
> Diablo II folder is 1.7 Gb; there are probably some other, newer games
> that, if one elects to a full installation, take more space.
>
>
>> and if the setup routine doesn't allow him to direct the installation
>> where he wants it to go, that's a crappy setup routine.
>>
>>
>
>
> No argument there.
>
>

Bruce Chambers
December 7th 05, 02:25 AM
Bob I wrote:
> What realm you play on?
>

I don't play on-line. When I want to interact with people, I go out.
When I don't want to interact with people, but still want to relax, I
play computer games.


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