Re: Installing Legal Copy of XP Pro

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

One license, one computer. That is the way it has been since at least
Windows 95.
Remember, Microsoft is not making you upgrade your computers.
You can move retail Windows to different computers all you want, but it can
only be installed on one computer at a time.
If you choose to have Windows XP on all computers, you can buy OEM at a
significant savings along with the restrictions that go along with OEM.
If you want Windows XP on all of them, buy a license for each.
Microsoft thinks you should pay for multiple licenses similarly to most
retailers want you to pay for each product you buy from them. They may give
you a discount, but you pay for each.
If you do not like the pricing or terms, you have the option of using other
products.
Otherwise you can choose to keep some or all with the original operating
system.
Your next step is your choice.

You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any other
manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their product.
From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
alternatives.

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http://www.dts-l.org


"Wayne" > wrote in message
...
> I've broken down and spent Good Money for a legal copy of windows XP Pro
> and have the following questions?
>
> I own 4 computers that I tear apart and upgrade constantly. Not to
> mention the computers I have for my kids. Is this going to be a problem
> with the new anti piracy security in windows XP Pro?
>
> Am I aloud to move my one legal copy of XP Pro around on the 4 machines I
> play with?
>
> I'm afraid your going to tell me one license for one machine. Can't I
> just tell MS about what I have in way of personal machines and that the
> license should be for ME and my hobbie not for ONE machine?
>
> Does MS seriously think I should pay more $ than the several hundred
> dollars I paid for my one copy to have the operating system on my 4
> machines?
>
> On a fresh install ..... do you now have to put in the CD key that came
> with the XP Pro you bought ... are they tied together some how that the CD
> and Key must match?

[Wayne]

> You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
> other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
> product.
> From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
> alternatives.


Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on several
microsoft products
that today you can't work on one without the other?

It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated the
market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market, simply
because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous prices
.... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and struggling
to stay alive.

I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating sytem
one day at half the cost.

Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work with
all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc. I need to
migrate all these files that I have worked on over the years. Are you
telling me I can install something like Linux and have no problems, or am I
right ..... MS has no competition and is doing what Xerox had done in their
domination of the market?

[Wayne]

I just want to make another point about proprietary behaviour. Once you
start that cycle, it never ends. Today Xerox sells copiers with proprietary
software embeded that they call a licence. Wonder were they got that idea
from ??? HINT

Now when you go and sell your $30 - $60 - $100k 3 year old Xerox printer
..... you really can't. It's kinda worthless to a potential purchaser of
this used machine because he is not licensed to use it. That way Xerox
controls the their shrunkin market. A present customer of theirs really has
little control as he can get no value for his purchase on the used market
while Xerox can increase the costs to maintain that customers machine
forcing that customer to buy once again from Xerox or loose thousands of
dollars. Proprietory business behaviour like that of Microsoft as well as
many others is not good for anyone other than the company who is today
getting away with it.

Just like the little inkjet printers on the market place like HP and Epson
..... they install proprietory chips to try and force you into buying their
over priced inks. Many had flawked to Canon printers because of this ...
but guess what? .... NO MORE .... even with the multitude of lawsuites
against HP and Epson for this behaviour, Canon had no choice but to follow,
they have now adopted the smart chips on their printers in an effort to
force you to buy their over priced inks.

You would think Microsoft would be a little more mature ... but that's
wishful thinking!

It's just the world we live in today I guess ?



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> One license, one computer. That is the way it has been since at least
> Windows 95.
> Remember, Microsoft is not making you upgrade your computers.
> You can move retail Windows to different computers all you want, but it
> can only be installed on one computer at a time.
> If you choose to have Windows XP on all computers, you can buy OEM at a
> significant savings along with the restrictions that go along with OEM.
> If you want Windows XP on all of them, buy a license for each.
> Microsoft thinks you should pay for multiple licenses similarly to most
> retailers want you to pay for each product you buy from them. They may
> give you a discount, but you pay for each.
> If you do not like the pricing or terms, you have the option of using
> other products.
> Otherwise you can choose to keep some or all with the original operating
> system.
> Your next step is your choice.
>
> You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
> other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
> product.
> From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
> alternatives.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Wayne" > wrote in message
> ...
>> I've broken down and spent Good Money for a legal copy of windows XP Pro
>> and have the following questions?
>>
>> I own 4 computers that I tear apart and upgrade constantly. Not to
>> mention the computers I have for my kids. Is this going to be a problem
>> with the new anti piracy security in windows XP Pro?
>>
>> Am I aloud to move my one legal copy of XP Pro around on the 4 machines I
>> play with?
>>
>> I'm afraid your going to tell me one license for one machine. Can't I
>> just tell MS about what I have in way of personal machines and that the
>> license should be for ME and my hobbie not for ONE machine?
>>
>> Does MS seriously think I should pay more $ than the several hundred
>> dollars I paid for my one copy to have the operating system on my 4
>> machines?
>>
>> On a fresh install ..... do you now have to put in the CD key that came
>> with the XP Pro you bought ... are they tied together some how that the
>> CD and Key must match?
>
>

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Wayne;
You may be asking in the wrong place if you are considering a replacement
OS.
Instead search for a forum supporting one or more of the alternatives such
as Linux.
The users there will be better able to explain the advantages of their OS as
well as possible solutions to your migration questions.
Have you looked into it already? Or are you simply assuming?

This newsgroup is for Windows answers and not Linux.

It sounds like you want "an Asian company" to come in and among other
things, take more jobs away from the US. In any case, people will then
whine about "an Asian company" selling their OS for about $100. Little
would change except where people whine.

It is all your choice and not Microsoft or anyone else's.
Use the products you want at the asking price.
You choose what OS to use on each of your computers.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Wayne" > wrote in message
...
>> You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
>> other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
>> product.
>> From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
>> alternatives.
>
>
> Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
> Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on
> several microsoft products
> that today you can't work on one without the other?
>
> It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated
> the market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market,
> simply because their was no competition and were selling them at
> rediculous prices ... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their
> size and struggling to stay alive.
>
> I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating sytem
> one day at half the cost.
>
> Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work
> with all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc. I
> need to migrate all these files that I have worked on over the years. Are
> you telling me I can install something like Linux and have no problems, or
> am I right ..... MS has no competition and is doing what Xerox had done in
> their domination of the market?

[H. S.]

Wayne wrote:

> Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
> Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on several
> microsoft products
> that today you can't work on one without the other?
>
> It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated the
> market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market, simply
> because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous prices
> ... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and struggling
> to stay alive.
>
> I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating sytem
> one day at half the cost.
>
> Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work with
> all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc. I need to
> migrate all these files that I have worked on over the years. Are you
> telling me I can install something like Linux and have no problems, or am I
> right ..... MS has no competition and is doing what Xerox had done in their
> domination of the market?
>
>

Well, that is what you get by supporting proprietory formats. And that
is why this is happening:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_format


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[ANONYMOUS]

Wayne wrote:
>

> Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work with
> all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc. I need to
> migrate all these files that I have worked on over the years. Are you
> telling me I can install something like Linux and have no problems, or am I
> right ..... MS has no competition and is doing what Xerox had done in their
> domination of the market?


Linux and Open office will do the trick. It is a hobby after all you
don't need expensive stuff do you?

Open office is free so is Linux.

hth

[Steve N.]

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

> One license, one computer. That is the way it has been since at least
> Windows 95.

It's been that way since MS-DOS.

Steve N.

[kurttrail]

Steve N. wrote:
> Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
>
>> One license, one computer. That is the way it has been since at
>> least Windows 95.
>
> It's been that way since MS-DOS.
>
> Steve N.

Only since Windows 3.01 in the Windows World.

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[capitan]

Wayne wrote:
>>You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
>>other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
>>product.
>>From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
>>alternatives.
>
>
>
> Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
> Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on several
> microsoft products
> that today you can't work on one without the other?
>
> It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated the
> market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market, simply
> because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous prices
> ... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and struggling
> to stay alive.
>
> I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating sytem
> one day at half the cost.
>
> Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work with
> all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc.

Bring up a Linux machine and run your MS apps on WINE. Or see how well
they migrate to Open Office 2.0. I have been nursing myself off of MS
Office because I hate having to buy it with each new computer I buy
(I've been buying it OEM, mabey not the best way). I have found Open
Office 2.0 to be wonderful, all my MS Office docs transferred over fine,
and it does everything I needed it to do. BTW, there is also a free
download of OpenOffice 2.0 for Windows machines if you don't want to
bring up a Linux machine. Good Luck.

--
capitan

[Winux P]

"capitan" <c@pitan> wrote in message
...
: Wayne wrote:
: >>You can tell Microsoft what you think is best just as you can tell any
: >>other manufacturer. But they choose how they are going to sell their
: >>product.
: >>From there it is your choice whether to buy theirs or one of the other
: >>alternatives.
: >
: >
: >
: > Can we get a little serious? Is there really any competition against
: > Microsofts operating systems considering that a lot of us grew up on
several
: > microsoft products
: > that today you can't work on one without the other?
: >
: > It reminds me of the hay days at the Xerox corporation. They dominated
the
: > market with their 99 percent share of all photocopiers on the market,
simply
: > because their was no competition and were selling them at rediculous
prices
: > ... because they could. Today Xerox is one tenth their size and
struggling
: > to stay alive.
: >
: > I pray that an Asian company comes out with a far superior operating
sytem
: > one day at half the cost.
: >
: > Please point me to a competitive operating system that I can still work
with
: > all my microsoft files, like publisher files, office files etc.
:
: Bring up a Linux machine and run your MS apps on WINE. Or see how well
: they migrate to Open Office 2.0. I have been nursing myself off of MS
: Office because I hate having to buy it with each new computer I buy
: (I've been buying it OEM, mabey not the best way). I have found Open
: Office 2.0 to be wonderful, all my MS Office docs transferred over fine,
: and it does everything I needed it to do. BTW, there is also a free
: download of OpenOffice 2.0 for Windows machines if you don't want to
: bring up a Linux machine. Good Luck.
:
: --
: capitan
:
:

It will need something as structured and powerful as VBA as a development
language behind it. There will not be a mass transfer or even a trial of it
if specified applications can't easily be constructed from this office
suite. As much as I don't want to admit it MS Office has the upper hand by
far, especially on Excel on Word, Access is the worlds most popular DB
application, even though there are much better desktop DB apps . Using Linux
as well (me that is), keep in mind MS has still not made a version of Office
to run on Linux nor has it made a CLR (.NET Framework) for it. Only meaning
there's little to no business for it. I know it's not in their interest to
do so but, if there where tonnes of Linux boxes in the world they too would
capitalise on it. Love to see an OS that competes with Windows to the point
where MS charges the "real" price for Windows like $AUD 85.00. I'm now
thinking it will never be Linux, whatever takes on Windows successfully will
be something new and catchy and leave Linux and other OS's (other than
Windows) saying Crikey! How simple was that, why didn't we think of that.

Keep up with Linux and OpenOffice, through your 2cents in to the developers
and support as Windows is in serious need of competition (not just consumer
choice, i.e, If you don't like Windows go to Linux rhetoric dismissive
argument). An alternative must be constructed and distributed. So far all
I've seen of Linux in the market place is it can't even be given out for
free and, a whole lot of statistics claims it's ever growing by a great
margin. I can't believe this. MS continues building momentum. Watch .NET
Framework (CLR) do what Sun-Java failed to do so, and the funny part is MS
only need do it to Windows, Sun tried to do for all OSs (binary
communists!).

I do love the Linux OS though.

- Winux P