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Mark
December 5th 03, 01:54 AM
I recently ran Windows Setup over itself on an XP
machine. Setup went fine and the machine runs better.
However, the previous installation was password-protected.
Now when I try to open those folders from Windows
Explorer, I get "access denied" messages. I've tried safe
mode, I've tried to boot to the XP CD and even at the
command prompt I get the same errors. I have to be able
to access the old data.

Can anyone give a hint on how to get into the old data?
Thanks!

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
December 5th 03, 01:54 AM
Hi Mark,

Provided the files weren't encrypted, this should fix it:

HOW TO: Take Ownership of a File or Folder in Windows XP [Q308421]
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=308421

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Win98 Help - www.rickrogers.org

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> I recently ran Windows Setup over itself on an XP
> machine. Setup went fine and the machine runs better.
> However, the previous installation was password-protected.
> Now when I try to open those folders from Windows
> Explorer, I get "access denied" messages. I've tried safe
> mode, I've tried to boot to the XP CD and even at the
> command prompt I get the same errors. I have to be able
> to access the old data.
>
> Can anyone give a hint on how to get into the old data?
> Thanks!

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP-Windows Shell/User\)
December 5th 03, 01:54 AM
This sounds like a file ownership issue related to NTFS. Note, file
ownership and permissions supersede administrator rights. How you resolve
it depends upon which version of XP you are running.



XP-Home



Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard wired for "Simple File
Sharing" at system level.

However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode. Reboot, and start
hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for the administrator's
password. This is not your administrator account, rather it is the
machine's administrator account for which users are asked to create a
password during setup.

If you created no such password, when requested, leave blank and press
enter.

Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the view tab, scroll to
the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File Sharing" deselect it
and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let you make a change,
move on to the next step.

Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go to the Security
tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the user that was logged
on when you were refused permission to access the files. Click apply and
ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and type in the name of
the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership for everything in
the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the following selection:
"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it as well.

Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish with these files when
you log back on as that user.



XP-Pro



If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited account to
administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to Tools, select Folder
Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File Sharing" is not
selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.



If you wish everything in a specific folder to be accessible to a user,
right click the folder, select properties, go to the Security tab, click
Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of the box, you
should see a check box for "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects,"
place a check in the box and click apply and ok.

The user should now be able to perform necessary functions on files in the
folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an admin account again,
right click the folder, select Properties, go to the Security tab and be
sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click add and type the
user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has all the necessary
permissions checked in the permission list below the user list, click apply
and ok.

That should do it and allow whatever access you desire for that folder even
in a limited account.


--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> I recently ran Windows Setup over itself on an XP
> machine. Setup went fine and the machine runs better.
> However, the previous installation was password-protected.
> Now when I try to open those folders from Windows
> Explorer, I get "access denied" messages. I've tried safe
> mode, I've tried to boot to the XP CD and even at the
> command prompt I get the same errors. I have to be able
> to access the old data.
>
> Can anyone give a hint on how to get into the old data?
> Thanks!

sqr
December 5th 03, 01:55 AM
Hopefully it is only password protected and not encrypted because if it is
bye bye stuff.

--
sqr
Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
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ftp://sqr.myftp.biz


"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> I recently ran Windows Setup over itself on an XP
> machine. Setup went fine and the machine runs better.
> However, the previous installation was password-protected.
> Now when I try to open those folders from Windows
> Explorer, I get "access denied" messages. I've tried safe
> mode, I've tried to boot to the XP CD and even at the
> command prompt I get the same errors. I have to be able
> to access the old data.
>
> Can anyone give a hint on how to get into the old data?
> Thanks!

Mark
December 5th 03, 01:55 AM
Thank you! This worked great! Kind of a pain, as I had
to go folder-by-folder and reset all the permissions. But
worth the time!

>-----Original Message-----
>This sounds like a file ownership issue related to NTFS.
Note, file
>ownership and permissions supersede administrator
rights. How you resolve
>it depends upon which version of XP you are running.
>
>
>
>XP-Home
>
>
>
>Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard
wired for "Simple File
>Sharing" at system level.
>
>However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode.
Reboot, and start
>hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
>options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for
the administrator's
>password. This is not your administrator account, rather
it is the
>machine's administrator account for which users are asked
to create a
>password during setup.
>
>If you created no such password, when requested, leave
blank and press
>enter.
>
>Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the
view tab, scroll to
>the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File
Sharing" deselect it
>and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let
you make a change,
>move on to the next step.
>
>Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go
to the Security
>tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the
user that was logged
>on when you were refused permission to access the files.
Click apply and
>ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and
type in the name of
>the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership
for everything in
>the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the
following selection:
>"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it
as well.
>
>Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish
with these files when
>you log back on as that user.
>
>
>
>XP-Pro
>
>
>
>If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited
account to
>administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to
Tools, select Folder
>Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File
Sharing" is not
>selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.
>
>
>
>If you wish everything in a specific folder to be
accessible to a user,
>right click the folder, select properties, go to the
Security tab, click
>Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
>select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of
the box, you
>should see a check box for "Replace owner on
subcontainers and objects,"
>place a check in the box and click apply and ok.
>
>The user should now be able to perform necessary
functions on files in the
>folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an
admin account again,
>right click the folder, select Properties, go to the
Security tab and be
>sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click
add and type the
>user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has
all the necessary
>permissions checked in the permission list below the user
list, click apply
>and ok.
>
>That should do it and allow whatever access you desire
for that folder even
>in a limited account.
>
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>
>"Mark" > wrote in message
...
>> I recently ran Windows Setup over itself on an XP
>> machine. Setup went fine and the machine runs better.
>> However, the previous installation was password-
protected.
>> Now when I try to open those folders from Windows
>> Explorer, I get "access denied" messages. I've tried
safe
>> mode, I've tried to boot to the XP CD and even at the
>> command prompt I get the same errors. I have to be able
>> to access the old data.
>>
>> Can anyone give a hint on how to get into the old data?
>> Thanks!
>
>
>.
>

Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP-Windows Shell/User\)
December 5th 03, 01:56 AM
You're welcome.

--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> Thank you! This worked great! Kind of a pain, as I had
> to go folder-by-folder and reset all the permissions. But
> worth the time!
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >This sounds like a file ownership issue related to NTFS.
> Note, file
> >ownership and permissions supersede administrator
> rights. How you resolve
> >it depends upon which version of XP you are running.
> >
> >
> >
> >XP-Home
> >
> >
> >
> >Unfortunately, XP Home using NTFS is essentially hard
> wired for "Simple File
> >Sharing" at system level.
> >
> >However, you can set XP Home permissions in Safe Mode.
> Reboot, and start
> >hitting F8, a menu should eventually appear and one of the
> >options is Safe Mode. Select it. Note, it will ask for
> the administrator's
> >password. This is not your administrator account, rather
> it is the
> >machine's administrator account for which users are asked
> to create a
> >password during setup.
> >
> >If you created no such password, when requested, leave
> blank and press
> >enter.
> >
> >Open Explorer, go to Tools and Folder Options, on the
> view tab, scroll to
> >the bottom of the list, if it shows "Enable Simple File
> Sharing" deselect it
> >and click apply and ok. If it shows nothing or won't let
> you make a change,
> >move on to the next step.
> >
> >Navigate to the files, right click, select properties, go
> to the Security
> >tab, click advanced, go to the Owner tab and select the
> user that was logged
> >on when you were refused permission to access the files.
> Click apply and
> >ok. Close the properties box, reopen it, click add and
> type in the name of
> >the user you just enabled. If you wish to set ownership
> for everything in
> >the folder, at the bottom of the Owner tab is the
> following selection:
> >"Replace owner on subcontainers and objects," select it
> as well.
> >
> >Once complete, you should be able to do what you wish
> with these files when
> >you log back on as that user.
> >
> >
> >
> >XP-Pro
> >
> >
> >
> >If you have XP Pro, temporarily change the limited
> account to
> >administrative. First, go to Windows Explorer, go to
> Tools, select Folder
> >Options, go to the View tab and be sure "Use Simple File
> Sharing" is not
> >selected. If it is, deselect it and click apply and ok.
> >
> >
> >
> >If you wish everything in a specific folder to be
> accessible to a user,
> >right click the folder, select properties, go to the
> Security tab, click
> >Advanced, go to the Owner tab,
> >select the user you wish to have access, at the bottom of
> the box, you
> >should see a check box for "Replace owner on
> subcontainers and objects,"
> >place a check in the box and click apply and ok.
> >
> >The user should now be able to perform necessary
> functions on files in the
> >folder even as a limited account. If not, make it an
> admin account again,
> >right click the folder, select Properties, go to the
> Security tab and be
> >sure the user is listed in the user list. If not, click
> add and type the
> >user name in the appropriate box, be sure the user has
> all the necessary
> >permissions checked in the permission list below the user
> list, click apply
> >and ok.
> >
> >That should do it and allow whatever access you desire
> for that folder even
> >in a limited account.
> >
> >
> >--
> >Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> >Windows Shell/User
> >Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> >
> >"Mark" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I recently ran Windows Setup over itself on an XP
> >> machine. Setup went fine and the machine runs better.
> >> However, the previous installation was password-
> protected.
> >> Now when I try to open those folders from Windows
> >> Explorer, I get "access denied" messages. I've tried
> safe
> >> mode, I've tried to boot to the XP CD and even at the
> >> command prompt I get the same errors. I have to be able
> >> to access the old data.
> >>
> >> Can anyone give a hint on how to get into the old data?
> >> Thanks!
> >
> >
> >.
> >

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