WXP Pro on Recovery disk

[nicholas]

My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it preloaded. The computer
company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o an OS, can I successfully
load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product Code?
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Nicholas

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[sqr]

If the XP from the first laptop is an OEM recovery Cd then it will not work
on the second laptop you wish to purchase. If the second machine is
Identical in every way then it will install but it will not be legal as the
cd key is attached to the first one.

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sqr
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"nicholas" > wrote in message
...
> My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
preloaded. The computer
> company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o an
OS, can I successfully
> load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product
Code?
> --
> Nicholas
>
> Please reply to this newsgroup
>

[Edward W. Thompson]

My understanding is that when you purchase a WINXP licence you are allowed
by the terms of the licence to install it on one machine only. The licence
is given by Microsoft not by a machine manufacturer who may include the OS
with their machine sometimes reformatted as an OEM version of WINXP.

If my understanding is correct you can transfer the OS to any machine of
your choice, the OEM has no part to play in the licence of the OS. Further
I am surprised at your suggestion that the OEM versions of WINXP are tied to
a particular machine. How is this done? Does that mean if you updated the
bios you would lose the ability to load the OEM OS on that machine? I think
that is improbable.

It is certainly the case that OEM versions of WINXP are often tailored to
particular machine models, that is they include machine specific drivers and
sometimes machine manufacturer's splash screens but these do not exclude
their use on other machines, as far as I know.


"sqr" > wrote in message
...
> If the XP from the first laptop is an OEM recovery Cd then it will not
work
> on the second laptop you wish to purchase. If the second machine is
> Identical in every way then it will install but it will not be legal as
the
> cd key is attached to the first one.
>
> --
> sqr
> Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
> --
> ftp://sqr.myftp.biz
>
>
> "nicholas" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
> preloaded. The computer
> > company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o
an
> OS, can I successfully
> > load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product
> Code?
> > --
> > Nicholas
> >
> > Please reply to this newsgroup
> >
>
>

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

You paid for it, to use on the computer it was delivered with!

"nicholas" > wrote in message
...
> My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
preloaded. The computer
> company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o an
OS, can I successfully
> load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product
Code?
> --
> Nicholas
>
> Please reply to this newsgroup
>

[Kaypee]

My understanding is quite different to yours. OEM versions are tied to
machine. If you read the actual agreement - changing motherboard in a
machine - it is no longer the same machine - and strictly speaking - MS
license requirements say you no longer have the right to use the oem version
of the software. Even though every part of machine but motherboard is
original.


And being naughty - not difficult at all to change OEM setup ini's to enable
install of OEM version of XP on any other machine - just not legal. Or so
my experience shows me. This was done for educational purposes only - of
course.


Kaypee



"Edward W. Thompson" > wrote in message
...
> My understanding is that when you purchase a WINXP licence you are allowed
> by the terms of the licence to install it on one machine only. The
licence
> is given by Microsoft not by a machine manufacturer who may include the OS
> with their machine sometimes reformatted as an OEM version of WINXP.
>
> If my understanding is correct you can transfer the OS to any machine of
> your choice, the OEM has no part to play in the licence of the OS.
Further
> I am surprised at your suggestion that the OEM versions of WINXP are tied
to
> a particular machine. How is this done? Does that mean if you updated
the
> bios you would lose the ability to load the OEM OS on that machine? I
think
> that is improbable.
>
> It is certainly the case that OEM versions of WINXP are often tailored to
> particular machine models, that is they include machine specific drivers
and
> sometimes machine manufacturer's splash screens but these do not exclude
> their use on other machines, as far as I know.
>
>
> "sqr" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If the XP from the first laptop is an OEM recovery Cd then it will not
> work
> > on the second laptop you wish to purchase. If the second machine is
> > Identical in every way then it will install but it will not be legal as
> the
> > cd key is attached to the first one.
> >
> > --
> > sqr
> > Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
> > --
> > ftp://sqr.myftp.biz
> >
> >
> > "nicholas" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
> > preloaded. The computer
> > > company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o
> an
> > OS, can I successfully
> > > load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product
> > Code?
> > > --
> > > Nicholas
> > >
> > > Please reply to this newsgroup
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[nicholas]

Kaypee wrote:
> My understanding is quite different to yours. OEM versions are tied to
> machine. If you read the actual agreement - changing motherboard in a
> machine - it is no longer the same machine - and strictly speaking - MS
> license requirements say you no longer have the right to use the oem version
> of the software. Even though every part of machine but motherboard is
> original.
>
>
> And being naughty - not difficult at all to change OEM setup ini's to enable
> install of OEM version of XP on any other machine - just not legal. Or so
> my experience shows me. This was done for educational purposes only - of
> course.
>
>
> Kaypee
>
>
>
> "Edward W. Thompson" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>My understanding is that when you purchase a WINXP licence you are allowed
>>by the terms of the licence to install it on one machine only. The
>
> licence
>
>>is given by Microsoft not by a machine manufacturer who may include the OS
>>with their machine sometimes reformatted as an OEM version of WINXP.
>>
>>If my understanding is correct you can transfer the OS to any machine of
>>your choice, the OEM has no part to play in the licence of the OS.
>
> Further
>
>>I am surprised at your suggestion that the OEM versions of WINXP are tied
>
> to
>
>>a particular machine. How is this done? Does that mean if you updated
>
> the
>
>>bios you would lose the ability to load the OEM OS on that machine? I
>
> think
>
>>that is improbable.
>>
>>It is certainly the case that OEM versions of WINXP are often tailored to
>>particular machine models, that is they include machine specific drivers
>
> and
>
>>sometimes machine manufacturer's splash screens but these do not exclude
>>their use on other machines, as far as I know.
>>
>>
>>"sqr" > wrote in message
...
>>
>>>If the XP from the first laptop is an OEM recovery Cd then it will not
>>
>>work
>>
>>>on the second laptop you wish to purchase. If the second machine is
>>>Identical in every way then it will install but it will not be legal as
>>
>>the
>>
>>>cd key is attached to the first one.
>>>
>>>--
>>>sqr
>>>Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
>>>--
>>>ftp://sqr.myftp.biz
>>>
>>>
>>>"nicholas" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
>>>
>>>preloaded. The computer
>>>
>>>>company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o
>>
>>an
>>
>>>OS, can I successfully
>>>
>>>>load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product
>>>
>>>Code?
>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Nicholas
>>>>
>>>>Please reply to this newsgroup
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
I guess I did not make myself too clear on the reuse of the WinXP Pro. The Original machine has
been junked and discarded. I just want to load the Win XP Pro on a new machine, and that will be
the only machine that I will have it installed on. The other is a trash dump someplace.

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Nicholas

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[Ken Blake]

In , nicholas wrote:

> I guess I did not make myself too clear on the reuse of the
WinXP
> Pro. The Original machine has been junked and discarded. I just
want
> to load the Win XP Pro on a new machine, and that will be the
only
> machine that I will have it installed on. The other is a trash
dump
> someplace.


No, I think you made yourself clear before. It doesn't matter
that the original machine is in a trash dump.

This is not an issue of Windows being installed only on one
computer at a time. Although that restriction is always in
effect, when you deal with OEM copies, there's another licensing
restriction. The OEM license permanently ties it to the first
computer it's installed on. If the computer dies, the license
dies with it.

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[sqr]

You have received the answer many times as it doesn't matter where the older
machine is.

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sqr
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--
ftp://sqr.myftp.biz


"nicholas" > wrote in message
...
> Kaypee wrote:
> > My understanding is quite different to yours. OEM versions are tied to
> > machine. If you read the actual agreement - changing motherboard in a
> > machine - it is no longer the same machine - and strictly speaking - MS
> > license requirements say you no longer have the right to use the oem
version
> > of the software. Even though every part of machine but motherboard is
> > original.
> >
> >
> > And being naughty - not difficult at all to change OEM setup ini's to
enable
> > install of OEM version of XP on any other machine - just not legal. Or
so
> > my experience shows me. This was done for educational purposes only -
of
> > course.
> >
> >
> > Kaypee
> >
> >
> >
> > "Edward W. Thompson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>My understanding is that when you purchase a WINXP licence you are
allowed
> >>by the terms of the licence to install it on one machine only. The
> >
> > licence
> >
> >>is given by Microsoft not by a machine manufacturer who may include the
OS
> >>with their machine sometimes reformatted as an OEM version of WINXP.
> >>
> >>If my understanding is correct you can transfer the OS to any machine of
> >>your choice, the OEM has no part to play in the licence of the OS.
> >
> > Further
> >
> >>I am surprised at your suggestion that the OEM versions of WINXP are
tied
> >
> > to
> >
> >>a particular machine. How is this done? Does that mean if you updated
> >
> > the
> >
> >>bios you would lose the ability to load the OEM OS on that machine? I
> >
> > think
> >
> >>that is improbable.
> >>
> >>It is certainly the case that OEM versions of WINXP are often tailored
to
> >>particular machine models, that is they include machine specific drivers
> >
> > and
> >
> >>sometimes machine manufacturer's splash screens but these do not exclude
> >>their use on other machines, as far as I know.
> >>
> >>
> >>"sqr" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >>>If the XP from the first laptop is an OEM recovery Cd then it will not
> >>
> >>work
> >>
> >>>on the second laptop you wish to purchase. If the second machine is
> >>>Identical in every way then it will install but it will not be legal as
> >>
> >>the
> >>
> >>>cd key is attached to the first one.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>sqr
> >>>Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
> >>>--
> >>>ftp://sqr.myftp.biz
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"nicholas" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>>
> >>>>My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
> >>>
> >>>preloaded. The computer
> >>>
> >>>>company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop w/o
> >>
> >>an
> >>
> >>>OS, can I successfully
> >>>
> >>>>load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper Product
> >>>
> >>>Code?
> >>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Nicholas
> >>>>
> >>>>Please reply to this newsgroup
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> I guess I did not make myself too clear on the reuse of the WinXP Pro. The
Original machine has
> been junked and discarded. I just want to load the Win XP Pro on a new
machine, and that will be
> the only machine that I will have it installed on. The other is a trash
dump someplace.
>
> --
> Nicholas
>
> Please reply to this newsgroup
>

[Edward W. Thompson]

I stand corrected although I find this whole business of licensing difficult
to follow. Clearly MS as the owner of the software has the right to impose
licensing conditions on its use but I don't see what rights the machine OEM
has over the use of the software. The implication is that the OEM has
ownership of the software that is supplied with the machine, surely that
can't be right.

It would appear that buying a machine (laptop that is) without WINXP, if
that is possible, maybe a better choice.

"Kaypee" > wrote in message
...
> My understanding is quite different to yours. OEM versions are tied to
> machine. If you read the actual agreement - changing motherboard in a
> machine - it is no longer the same machine - and strictly speaking - MS
> license requirements say you no longer have the right to use the oem
version
> of the software. Even though every part of machine but motherboard is
> original.
>
>
> And being naughty - not difficult at all to change OEM setup ini's to
enable
> install of OEM version of XP on any other machine - just not legal. Or so
> my experience shows me. This was done for educational purposes only - of
> course.
>
>
> Kaypee
>
>
>
> "Edward W. Thompson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > My understanding is that when you purchase a WINXP licence you are
allowed
> > by the terms of the licence to install it on one machine only. The
> licence
> > is given by Microsoft not by a machine manufacturer who may include the
OS
> > with their machine sometimes reformatted as an OEM version of WINXP.
> >
> > If my understanding is correct you can transfer the OS to any machine of
> > your choice, the OEM has no part to play in the licence of the OS.
> Further
> > I am surprised at your suggestion that the OEM versions of WINXP are
tied
> to
> > a particular machine. How is this done? Does that mean if you updated
> the
> > bios you would lose the ability to load the OEM OS on that machine? I
> think
> > that is improbable.
> >
> > It is certainly the case that OEM versions of WINXP are often tailored
to
> > particular machine models, that is they include machine specific drivers
> and
> > sometimes machine manufacturer's splash screens but these do not exclude
> > their use on other machines, as far as I know.
> >
> >
> > "sqr" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > If the XP from the first laptop is an OEM recovery Cd then it will not
> > work
> > > on the second laptop you wish to purchase. If the second machine is
> > > Identical in every way then it will install but it will not be legal
as
> > the
> > > cd key is attached to the first one.
> > >
> > > --
> > > sqr
> > > Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
> > > --
> > > ftp://sqr.myftp.biz
> > >
> > >
> > > "nicholas" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > My laptop computer crashed (only 1 yr old) and had Win XP Pro on it
> > > preloaded. The computer
> > > > company gave me a Recovery disk only. If I purchase another laptop
w/o
> > an
> > > OS, can I successfully
> > > > load the XP Pro on it. I have paid for it and have the proper
Product
> > > Code?
> > > > --
> > > > Nicholas
> > > >
> > > > Please reply to this newsgroup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>