Emachine -> Replace MB -> OEM XP ?

[MattK]

MB on Emachine T4510 was dead. No problem, I can buy MB at local store.

But I have BIG question about OEM XP.

This is something that I have never done before.

Question is that when I replace Emachine MB with different MB, Will OEM XP
be able to boot after repair install is done?

I know that some OEM XP is BIOS locked (or something like that)

I want to know that I can repair install OEM XP before buying new MB for my
Emachine.

Thank you!

Matt K.

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".

A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.*com/XPrepairinstall.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

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"MattK" wrote:

| MB on Emachine T4510 was dead. No problem, I can buy MB at local store.
|
| But I have BIG question about OEM XP.
|
| This is something that I have never done before.
|
| Question is that when I replace Emachine MB with different MB, Will OEM XP
| be able to boot after repair install is done?
|
| I know that some OEM XP is BIOS locked (or something like that)
|
| I want to know that I can repair install OEM XP before buying new MB for my
| Emachine.
|
| Thank you!
|
| Matt K.

[Steve N.]

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
> did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
> eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
> XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
> All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
> Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".

No Carey, that is not all he can do. He can purchase a generic OEM XP CD
(cheaper) or even borrow one and do a repair install using his code on
his COA sticker. The license is represented in the COA, not the
installation media. As long as the media type matches there won't be a
problem nor an EULA violation.

This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.

Steve N.

>
> A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
> with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
> a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.
>
> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>
> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.*com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

Wrong! The use of a generic OEM Windows XP CD
cannot be used with a major vendor-specific license.
Product activation will fail and the OP will be at square
one.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

"Steve N." wrote:

| No Carey, that is not all he can do. He can purchase a generic OEM XP CD
| (cheaper) or even borrow one and do a repair install using his code on
| his COA sticker. The license is represented in the COA, not the
| installation media. As long as the media type matches there won't be a
| problem nor an EULA violation.
|
| This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.
|
| Steve N.

[Uncle Grumpy]

Steve N. wrote:
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
> > If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
> > did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
> > eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
> > XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
> > All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
> > Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>
> No Carey, that is not all he can do.
>
> This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.

Carey is a copy-and-paste "MVP" who is, in most cases, CLUELESS.

[MattK]

Thanks everyone.

So, BASICALLY, If I can get genetic OEM XP Home CD and
use XP code on Emachine sticker, and do repair install, I can
boot XP with new MB without problem...

Is this correct? I am really hoping so.

and this is cheapest way to repair my cheap Emachine...;-P

Thanks again.

"Steve N." > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>> If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
>> did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
>> eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
>> XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
>> All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
>> Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>
> No Carey, that is not all he can do. He can purchase a generic OEM XP CD
> (cheaper) or even borrow one and do a repair install using his code on his
> COA sticker. The license is represented in the COA, not the installation
> media. As long as the media type matches there won't be a problem nor an
> EULA violation.
>
> This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.
>
> Steve N.
>
>>
>> A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
>> with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
>> a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.
>>
>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.*com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>

[Steve N.]

Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:

> Wrong! The use of a generic OEM Windows XP CD
> cannot be used with a major vendor-specific license.

If the OP buys a generic OEM XP CD it comes with its own key, doesn't
it? Your statement here makes no sense. If the PID code on the COA on
the case doesn't work the one that comes with a generic OEM CD will,
will it not?

> Product activation will fail and the OP will be at square
> one.

Perhaps on-line activation may fail, since MS has "invalidated" nearly
all major OEM activations due to theft and piracy issues (also discussed
ad-nauseum here), but there _is_ phone acivation, which you need to do
for a lot of major OEM re-installs anyway.

Maybe you know sonething the rest of us don't? Please enlighten us, with
specifics, if you don't mind, oh wise one :).

Steve N.

[Steve N.]

Uncle Grumpy wrote:

> Steve N. wrote:
>
>>Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
>>>did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
>>>eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
>>>XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
>>>All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
>>>Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>>
>>No Carey, that is not all he can do.
>>
>>This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.
>
>
> Carey is a copy-and-paste "MVP" who is, in most cases, CLUELESS.
>

Yeah, but he's gotten better :)

Lord knows I've had my criticisms of him. Most of the time even with his
copy-paste tactics lately he's gotten closer to the mark.

Why, heck! He even responds to _me_ now! He hasn't done that since I
lambasted him six ways from Sunday about a year or so ago.

Steve N.

[Michael Stevens]

In ,
MattK > replied with a ;-)
> Thanks everyone.
>
> So, BASICALLY, If I can get genetic OEM XP Home CD and
> use XP code on Emachine sticker, and do repair install, I can
> boot XP with new MB without problem...
>
> Is this correct? I am really hoping so.
>
> and this is cheapest way to repair my cheap Emachine...;-P
>
> Thanks again.
>

Not necessarily, it may not activate. You can change the key though. Have
you checked the replacement price of an eMachines replacement? It may be the
same as purchasing XP and a motherboard and you would not have a problem if
you ever needed to restore the system. The restore disks will not work on
changed hardware.
--
Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com
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> "Steve N." > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
>>> did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
>>> eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
>>> XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
>>> All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
>>> Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>>
>> No Carey, that is not all he can do. He can purchase a generic OEM
>> XP CD (cheaper) or even borrow one and do a repair install using his
>> code on his COA sticker. The license is represented in the COA, not
>> the installation media. As long as the media type matches there
>> won't be a problem nor an EULA violation.
>>
>> This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue,
>> bro. Steve N.
>>
>>>
>>> A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
>>> with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
>>> a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.
>>>
>>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
>>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>>
>>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.*com/XPrepairinstall.htm

[Peter Foldes]

Steve

Carey is correct here. E Machines are OS Specific. Once you change the MOBO or any part of it will not re-activate with either the OS in there or any OEM one. The OP will need the Retail version.

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"Steve N." > wrote in message ink.net...
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>> If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
>> did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
>> eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
>> XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
>> All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
>> Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>
> No Carey, that is not all he can do. He can purchase a generic OEM XP CD
> (cheaper) or even borrow one and do a repair install using his code on
> his COA sticker. The license is represented in the COA, not the
> installation media. As long as the media type matches there won't be a
> problem nor an EULA violation.
>
> This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.
>
> Steve N.
>
>>
>> A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
>> with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
>> a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.
>>
>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.*com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>

[Bill]

Wrong

If the MOBO is changed then its not a E Machine. Any OEM copy of WindowsXP
will work with the OEM key.


"Peter Foldes" > wrote in message
...
Steve

Carey is correct here. E Machines are OS Specific. Once you change the MOBO
or any part of it will not re-activate with either the OS in there or any
OEM one. The OP will need the Retail version.

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Steve N." > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>> If Windows XP was preinstalled by eMachine and you
>> did not replace the defective motherboard with the exact
>> eMachine replacement, your eMachine version of Windows
>> XP is not going to activate since it is looking for the same BIOS.
>> All you can do is to purchase a conventional "Full Version" of
>> Windows XP and proceed with a "Repair Install".
>
> No Carey, that is not all he can do. He can purchase a generic OEM XP CD
> (cheaper) or even borrow one and do a repair install using his code on
> his COA sticker. The license is represented in the COA, not the
> installation media. As long as the media type matches there won't be a
> problem nor an EULA violation.
>
> This has been discussed here almost ad-nauseum. Please get a clue, bro.
>
> Steve N.
>
>>
>> A preinstalled OEM version of Windows XP cannot be used
>> with a different type of motherboard. The license is tied to
>> a specific motherboard model and BIOS and cannot be transferred.
>>
>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>
>> How to Perform a Windows XP Repair Install
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.*com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>>
>

[ANONYMOUS]

Bill wrote:
>
> Wrong
>
> Any OEM copy of WindowsXP will work with the OEM key.
>

WRONG. Dell OEM copy of XP will not accept Emachines' OEM key.
Likewise, HP will not work on DELL.

[Tritium]

Steve N. wrote:

> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>
>> Wrong! The use of a generic OEM Windows XP CD
>> cannot be used with a major vendor-specific license.
>
>
> If the OP buys a generic OEM XP CD it comes with its own key, doesn't
> it? Your statement here makes no sense. If the PID code on the COA on
> the case doesn't work the one that comes with a generic OEM CD will,
> will it not?
>

Maybe not. The OEM Product Key provided by the manufacturer and
placed on the computer is most likely linked to the specific brand
or OEM licensee/distributor.

[Steve N.]

Tritium wrote:
>
>
> Steve N. wrote:
>
>> Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
>>
>>> Wrong! The use of a generic OEM Windows XP CD
>>> cannot be used with a major vendor-specific license.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the OP buys a generic OEM XP CD it comes with its own key, doesn't
>> it? Your statement here makes no sense. If the PID code on the COA on
>> the case doesn't work the one that comes with a generic OEM CD will,
>> will it not?
>>
>
> Maybe not. The OEM Product Key provided by the manufacturer and
> placed on the computer is most likely linked to the specific brand
> or OEM licensee/distributor.
>

Please read what I wrote. I never said an OEM CD and the PID on the case
would definitely work, I siad it might, but if he bought a generic OEM
CD and used it's PID it would. The whole point is he doesn't have to
spring for a full retail license.

Steve N.

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

No. You need to purchase a new Windows XP license.
Your eMachine OEM Product Key cannot be used with
a generic OEM Windows XP CD. It will mot activate,
nor will it pass the validation request from Microsoft.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User


"MattK" wrote:

> Thanks everyone.
>
> So, BASICALLY, If I can get genetic OEM XP Home CD and
> use XP code on Emachine sticker, and do repair install, I can
> boot XP with new MB without problem...
>
> Is this correct? I am really hoping so.
>
> and this is cheapest way to repair my cheap Emachine...;-P
>
> Thanks again.