Preserve deleting a restore point

[Crios]

Hi,
I just reinstalled my XP and main drivers, software, etc. In time, I will
probably try and use misc other software.
I want to know how to create a restore point that I can keep, so, when my
computer gets slower due to install/uninstall processes, junk registry
entries, etc., to be able to revert to this first "clean" restore point.

Thanx

[Peter Rogers]

"Crios" > wrote:

>Hi,
>I just reinstalled my XP and main drivers, software, etc. In time, I will
>probably try and use misc other software.
>I want to know how to create a restore point that I can keep, so, when my
>computer gets slower due to install/uninstall processes, junk registry
>entries, etc., to be able to revert to this first "clean" restore point.
>
>Thanx
>
Click on START then HELP AND SUPPORT

Type System Restore in the search window, click on the green arrow.

Pick the task "Create a Restore Point" and follow the instructions

Peter

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[Ken Blake, MVP]

Crios wrote:

> I just reinstalled my XP and main drivers, software, etc. In time, I
> will probably try and use misc other software.
> I want to know how to create a restore point that I can keep, so,
> when my computer gets slower due to install/uninstall processes, junk
> registry entries, etc., to be able to revert to this first "clean"
> restore point.


You can't. That's not the purpose of System Restore, and the way it works
won't let you do this. Restore points form a chain (a little bit like
incremental backups), and you need the entire chain to be able to get to an
older restore point.

For this purpose, you may want to consider making an image of your drive
using something like Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image.

And by the way, computers don't "get slower due to install/uninstall
processes, junk registry entries, etc." Maintain your computer well, avoid
getting infected with malware, and you shouldn't have such problems.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Tim Bird]

"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Crios wrote:
> And by the way, computers don't "get slower due to install/uninstall
> processes, junk registry entries, etc." Maintain your computer well, avoid
> getting infected with malware, and you shouldn't have such problems.

That would stand if all developers ensured that their software installed and
uninstalled correctly. They don't and that means that all kinds of leftovers
remain that have to be removed somehow. Often the best way to do this is to
re-install.

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Tim Bird wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Crios wrote:
>> And by the way, computers don't "get slower due to install/uninstall
>> processes, junk registry entries, etc." Maintain your computer well,
>> avoid getting infected with malware, and you shouldn't have such
>> problems.
>
> That would stand if all developers ensured that their software
> installed and uninstalled correctly. They don't and that means that
> all kinds of leftovers remain that have to be removed somehow. Often
> the best way to do this is to re-install.


It's true that leftovers often remain after an uninstall. It's *not* true
that they have to be removed (except in very rare circumstances). They take
up a minuscule amount of disk space and do not hurt you in any way.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Marc]

Here's a solution I use for a PC that I do a lot of 'experimenting' with, if
you can set-up a dual boot system. Boot to your 'second' system and zip or
rar you whole 'primary' system, or a subset of it, like root directory,
windows and program files.

When you want to go back to a clean and already customised PC, just boot to
'secondary' system, format primary partition and unzip or unrar your
'backup' to it.

Marc


"Crios" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
> I just reinstalled my XP and main drivers, software, etc. In time, I will
> probably try and use misc other software.
> I want to know how to create a restore point that I can keep, so, when my
> computer gets slower due to install/uninstall processes, junk registry
> entries, etc., to be able to revert to this first "clean" restore point.
>
> Thanx
>

[Tim Bird]

"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Tim Bird wrote:
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Crios wrote:
>>> And by the way, computers don't "get slower due to install/uninstall
>>> processes, junk registry entries, etc." Maintain your computer well,
>>> avoid getting infected with malware, and you shouldn't have such
>>> problems.
>>
>> That would stand if all developers ensured that their software
>> installed and uninstalled correctly. They don't and that means that
>> all kinds of leftovers remain that have to be removed somehow. Often
>> the best way to do this is to re-install.
>
>
> It's true that leftovers often remain after an uninstall. It's *not* true
> that they have to be removed (except in very rare circumstances). They
> take up a minuscule amount of disk space and do not hurt you in any way.

I have had some badly written software that has left unrequired drivers in
place, etc. Ever tried to use the software that comes with sonys mini-disk
players? Over enough time you simply have to re-install windows in the real
world. I don't agree with people that do it all the time - I've just redone
a laptop that has been running since the release of XP. So that's a fair
while and it had gathered a fair load of rubbish that would either not
uninstall (some applications just will not) or was left over (such as the
sony rubbish). In an ideal world where everybody did everything right and
wrote their software according to MS guides then you would be right. But
it's not like that.

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Tim Bird wrote:

> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Tim Bird wrote:
>>
>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Crios wrote:
>>>> And by the way, computers don't "get slower due to
>>>> install/uninstall processes, junk registry entries, etc." Maintain
>>>> your computer well, avoid getting infected with malware, and you
>>>> shouldn't have such problems.
>>>
>>> That would stand if all developers ensured that their software
>>> installed and uninstalled correctly. They don't and that means that
>>> all kinds of leftovers remain that have to be removed somehow. Often
>>> the best way to do this is to re-install.
>>
>>
>> It's true that leftovers often remain after an uninstall. It's *not*
>> true that they have to be removed (except in very rare
>> circumstances). They take up a minuscule amount of disk space and do
>> not hurt you in any way.
>
> I have had some badly written software that has left unrequired
> drivers in place, etc. Ever tried to use the software that comes with
> sonys mini-disk players? Over enough time you simply have to
> re-install windows in the real world. I don't agree with people that
> do it all the time - I've just redone a laptop that has been running
> since the release of XP. So that's a fair while and it had gathered a
> fair load of rubbish that would either not uninstall (some
> applications just will not) or was left over (such as the sony
> rubbish). In an ideal world where everybody did everything right and
> wrote their software according to MS guides then you would be right.
> But it's not like that.


I've run Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000,
and Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version came
out, and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them, and I
have never had anything more than an occasional minor problem.

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Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Tim Bird]

>>>
>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>
> I've run Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows
> 2000, and Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next version
> came out, and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled any of them,
> and I have never had anything more than an occasional minor problem.

I've done the same and had issues. Like I said: it's not down to Windows (I
think Windows is great) but the software that some developers write and also
down to how you use the machine. I agree with you that it's hardly ever
needed. Sometimes, though, it's the only way. I've even had MS support say
so (totally corrupted install of MDAC caused that one).

[Ken Blake, MVP]

Tim Bird wrote:
>>>>> "Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in
>>>>> message ...
>>
>> I've run Windows 3.0, 3.1, WFWG 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows
>> 2000, and Windows XP, each for the period of time before the next
>> version came out, and each on two machines here. I never reinstalled
>> any of them, and I have never had anything more than an occasional
>> minor problem.
>
> I've done the same and had issues. Like I said: it's not down to
> Windows (I think Windows is great) but the software that some
> developers write and also down to how you use the machine. I agree
> with you that it's hardly ever needed. Sometimes, though, it's the
> only way.


Given those last two sentences, I think we're in complete agreement. I guess
I've been misunderstanding your point until now. I've never meant to say
that it's never needed. My only point is that the need is very rare. My
original post in this thread was in response to Cnos, who said "I want to
know how to create a restore point that I can keep, so, when my computer
gets slower due to install/uninstall processes, junk registry entries, etc.,
to be able to revert to this first "clean" restore point." His statement
that this *will* happen ("when my computer gets slower") isn't correct, and
I wanted to point that out.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
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[Tim Bird]

"Ken Blake, MVP" > wrote in message
...
> Given those last two sentences, I think we're in complete agreement. I
> guess I've been misunderstanding your point until now. I've never meant to
> say that it's never needed. My only point is that the need is very rare.
> My original post in this thread was in response to Cnos, who said "I want
> to know how to create a restore point that I can keep, so, when my
> computer gets slower due to install/uninstall processes, junk registry
> entries, etc., to be able to revert to this first "clean" restore point."
> His statement that this *will* happen ("when my computer gets slower")
> isn't correct, and I wanted to point that out.

Agreed. Have a great day.