chipmeister
February 28th 06, 05:16 PM
Ken, CB, and everyone else,
In reading this I just couldn't help but laugh. Not just at the
conversations between Den and CB but at the topic.
We all know that Microsoft isn't in the business of data security...right!?!
And we all know that the base of this problem is (as was mentioned earlier)
that Microsoft needs to fix their code.
Now with those two statements let me say, as a security professional I would
never expect anyone to rely on the security technologies of a company who
doesn't have security as their core focus. Lets look at McAfee for example,
they sold off those technologies that didn't fit their goal of being security
focused. Magic Helpdesk and Sniffer didn't fit the security model and were
taking focus away from the core business of security. Through all the
challenges and changes made over the past few years McAfee has evolved to be
the industries only "pure play" security company.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying to only use McAfee. I'm just saying we
need to call a spade a spade. The comparison needs to be apple to apples,
not apples to oranges.
MS is trying and will most likely have an okay or "good enough" solution in
a couple of years. Thus the promise of security in the upcoming Vista
release. But I for one will always utilize a third party firewall/IPS and AV
solution for both corporate and personal use.
"Ken Gardner" wrote:
> "CB" wrote:
>
> > Personaly, I think MS should implement a new feature to where if an end user
> > doesn't stay up to date with windowsupdate.com, that a big burly guy with
> > come to their house and smack them around a bit, heh.
>
> To within about four inches of his life. :)
>
> Ken
In reading this I just couldn't help but laugh. Not just at the
conversations between Den and CB but at the topic.
We all know that Microsoft isn't in the business of data security...right!?!
And we all know that the base of this problem is (as was mentioned earlier)
that Microsoft needs to fix their code.
Now with those two statements let me say, as a security professional I would
never expect anyone to rely on the security technologies of a company who
doesn't have security as their core focus. Lets look at McAfee for example,
they sold off those technologies that didn't fit their goal of being security
focused. Magic Helpdesk and Sniffer didn't fit the security model and were
taking focus away from the core business of security. Through all the
challenges and changes made over the past few years McAfee has evolved to be
the industries only "pure play" security company.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying to only use McAfee. I'm just saying we
need to call a spade a spade. The comparison needs to be apple to apples,
not apples to oranges.
MS is trying and will most likely have an okay or "good enough" solution in
a couple of years. Thus the promise of security in the upcoming Vista
release. But I for one will always utilize a third party firewall/IPS and AV
solution for both corporate and personal use.
"Ken Gardner" wrote:
> "CB" wrote:
>
> > Personaly, I think MS should implement a new feature to where if an end user
> > doesn't stay up to date with windowsupdate.com, that a big burly guy with
> > come to their house and smack them around a bit, heh.
>
> To within about four inches of his life. :)
>
> Ken