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jelly bean
May 6th 06, 05:58 PM
me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp and home
were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can clearup
the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to reactivate?
--
willing to learn more.

Bruce Chambers
May 6th 06, 06:28 PM
jelly bean wrote:
> me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp and home
> were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can clearup
> the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to reactivate?


From your vague description, it's not entirely clear just what you did.
It sounds like you wanted to upgrade from WinMe to WinXP, but instead
created some sort of dual-boot scenario, with both operating systems
installed onto the same hard drive partition. If so, you've created a
recipe for disaster. A careful, knowledgeable specialist can do this
safely for a short period of time, but the ordinary PC user had better
be backing up his data hourly, as a catastrophic failure is a matter of
"when," rather than "if."

At this point, your only viable course of action would be to back up
your data, format the hard drive, and then install WinXP.

Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the
opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot
devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)

HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm


--

Bruce Chambers

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jelly bean
May 6th 06, 06:46 PM
im fairly new to computers only started learning 8 months ago so not sure of
termanolagy.sorry.your explanation is correct of what i was trying to
write.thanx,but on closer inspection all the previous owners files are still
left on pc,so what did i do wrong in that her files are still on pc?and can i
just delete her files and computer will be fine or is there some serious
error i have to correct?jelly,xx
--
willing to learn more.


"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> jelly bean wrote:
> > me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp and home
> > were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can clearup
> > the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to reactivate?
>
>
> From your vague description, it's not entirely clear just what you did.
> It sounds like you wanted to upgrade from WinMe to WinXP, but instead
> created some sort of dual-boot scenario, with both operating systems
> installed onto the same hard drive partition. If so, you've created a
> recipe for disaster. A careful, knowledgeable specialist can do this
> safely for a short period of time, but the ordinary PC user had better
> be backing up his data hourly, as a catastrophic failure is a matter of
> "when," rather than "if."
>
> At this point, your only viable course of action would be to back up
> your data, format the hard drive, and then install WinXP.
>
> Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the
> opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
> installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot
> devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)
>
> HOW TO Install Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941
>
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>
> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>

Bruce Chambers
May 6th 06, 07:32 PM
jelly bean wrote:
> im fairly new to computers only started learning 8 months ago so not sure of
> termanolagy.sorry.your explanation is correct of what i was trying to
> write.thanx,but on closer inspection all the previous owners files are still
> left on pc,so what did i do wrong in that her files are still on pc?


You didn't elect to format the hard drive and start afresh. I'm only
guessing, but it sounds like you started up the computer in WinMe,
inserted the WinXP installation CD, and then, when offered the choice of
a new installation or upgrade, you selected the former. This course of
action would have been OK, had you also elected to format the hard
drive, but it would seem that you missed this option, and thereby
inadvertently installed WinXP onto the same partition as WinMe.

> and can i
> just delete her files and computer will be fine or is there some serious
> error i have to correct?jelly,xx


No, at this point, the only way you can assure yourself of a stable
installation of WinXP is to start all over again, booting from the WinXP
installation CD, and formatting the target partition.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin

Manny Borges
May 6th 06, 10:54 PM
Huh. You don't say?

I will also suppose that you are new to spelling, grammar, and punctuation.
Oh yeah, and don't let me forget coherent sentences.

Do you understand how disinclined most people are to help someone who can't
even be bothered to put a readable paragraph together.

I mean really, why should I care about your problem if you can't be bothered
to proof read it.

Just for fun, who is her? And have you asked "her" about backing up any
important information like tax software information, important emails,
family pictures, and any other things that this user might want to preserve?
--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.

"jelly bean" > wrote in message
...
> im fairly new to computers only started learning 8 months ago so not sure
> of
> termanolagy.sorry.your explanation is correct of what i was trying to
> write.thanx,but on closer inspection all the previous owners files are
> still
> left on pc,so what did i do wrong in that her files are still on pc?and
> can i
> just delete her files and computer will be fine or is there some serious
> error i have to correct?jelly,xx
> --
> willing to learn more.
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>
>> jelly bean wrote:
>> > me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp and
>> > home
>> > were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can
>> > clearup
>> > the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to reactivate?
>>
>>
>> From your vague description, it's not entirely clear just what you did.
>> It sounds like you wanted to upgrade from WinMe to WinXP, but instead
>> created some sort of dual-boot scenario, with both operating systems
>> installed onto the same hard drive partition. If so, you've created a
>> recipe for disaster. A careful, knowledgeable specialist can do this
>> safely for a short period of time, but the ordinary PC user had better
>> be backing up his data hourly, as a catastrophic failure is a matter of
>> "when," rather than "if."
>>
>> At this point, your only viable course of action would be to back up
>> your data, format the hard drive, and then install WinXP.
>>
>> Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the
>> opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
>> installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot
>> devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)
>>
>> HOW TO Install Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941
>>
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>>
>> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>

jelly bean
May 6th 06, 11:34 PM
oh look?everyone someone who is so perfect they can go around picking such
childish faults on others?we arnt all fantastic at
spelling.writing,etc,etc.there are some people out there who understand what
us learners are trying to write or discribe?we learners are trying does that
sink into your arrogant little mind?and as for SHE?SHE gave me the pc so had
no need to save any of her files and pictures,etc,etc.we people in this area
take computers that are no longer any use to others as they are a little
old,and we rebuild them and upgrade them for children whom cannot afford
these types of items and live in poor areas.so a groupe of use do this work
free of charge and at no expence to anyone.if we make mistakes then we try
again as it costs nothing.ITS CALLED HELPING OTHERS NO MATTER HOW THEY
SPELL,OR IF THEY CAN COMPREHEND WHAT A PARAGRAPH IS,ETC ETC ETC.do you go
around the forum slighting everyone who carnt make themselves understood?are
you realy here to help?or just have fun being a t**t?
--
willing to learn more.


"Manny Borges" wrote:

> Huh. You don't say?
>
> I will also suppose that you are new to spelling, grammar, and punctuation.
> Oh yeah, and don't let me forget coherent sentences.
>
> Do you understand how disinclined most people are to help someone who can't
> even be bothered to put a readable paragraph together.
>
> I mean really, why should I care about your problem if you can't be bothered
> to proof read it.
>
> Just for fun, who is her? And have you asked "her" about backing up any
> important information like tax software information, important emails,
> family pictures, and any other things that this user might want to preserve?
> --
> Manny Borges
> MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
> MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>
> There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
> and those who don't.
>
> "jelly bean" > wrote in message
> ...
> > im fairly new to computers only started learning 8 months ago so not sure
> > of
> > termanolagy.sorry.your explanation is correct of what i was trying to
> > write.thanx,but on closer inspection all the previous owners files are
> > still
> > left on pc,so what did i do wrong in that her files are still on pc?and
> > can i
> > just delete her files and computer will be fine or is there some serious
> > error i have to correct?jelly,xx
> > --
> > willing to learn more.
> >
> >
> > "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
> >
> >> jelly bean wrote:
> >> > me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp and
> >> > home
> >> > were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can
> >> > clearup
> >> > the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to reactivate?
> >>
> >>
> >> From your vague description, it's not entirely clear just what you did.
> >> It sounds like you wanted to upgrade from WinMe to WinXP, but instead
> >> created some sort of dual-boot scenario, with both operating systems
> >> installed onto the same hard drive partition. If so, you've created a
> >> recipe for disaster. A careful, knowledgeable specialist can do this
> >> safely for a short period of time, but the ordinary PC user had better
> >> be backing up his data hourly, as a catastrophic failure is a matter of
> >> "when," rather than "if."
> >>
> >> At this point, your only viable course of action would be to back up
> >> your data, format the hard drive, and then install WinXP.
> >>
> >> Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the
> >> opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
> >> installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot
> >> devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)
> >>
> >> HOW TO Install Windows XP
> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941
> >>
> >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
> >>
> >> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Bruce Chambers
> >>
> >> Help us help you:
> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >>
> >> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> >> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
> >>
>
>
>

jelly bean
May 6th 06, 11:36 PM
thanx bruce,i will format hdd and start over again,jelly.xx
--
willing to learn more

Ron Martell
May 7th 06, 01:16 AM
jelly bean > wrote:

>oh look?everyone someone who is so perfect they can go around picking such
>childish faults on others?we arnt all fantastic at
>spelling.writing,etc,etc.there are some people out there who understand what
>us learners are trying to write or discribe?

The value of written communication is entirely dependent on the other
people being able to read and to understand what has been written.

The basic rules of punctuation and grammar were developed for the sole
purpose of ensuring that understanding. By choosing to ignore these
rules you have deliberately chosen to make your written communication
difficult if not impossible to understand.

There are hundreds of new messages posted to this newsgroup every day
by people seeking assistance, and the overwhelming majority of these
are readable. When the volunteers who provide the assistance on these
newsgroups encounter a message that is basically a combination of
goobledygook and meaningless babble most of them will choose to simply
ignore that item and move on to something that is less difficult to
understand.

You are quite free to continue posting messages as you have been.
However others are equally free to simply ignore these items and move
on to helping others. And one of those people could be the very one
who has the actual answer to whatever your problem actually is.

Good luck (and you are probably going to need it).


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

Mr C
May 7th 06, 02:23 AM
"By choosing to ignore these rules you have deliberately chosen to make
your written communication difficult if not impossible to understand."

I guess that means the same 'rules' discriminate against Dyslexics and
people with similar learning difficulties then? I do agree that if you
have trouble understanding what is posted then it is probably best to
ignore it, but I'm also thinking that means not having an ego trip and
being insulting rather than providing help to someone? If you don't
understand then maybe you should ask for a little more clarity or
ignore it and let those who have an idea of what is being asked do the
answering.

Mr C.

Ron Martell explained :
> jelly bean > wrote:
>
>> oh look?everyone someone who is so perfect they can go around picking such
>> childish faults on others?we arnt all fantastic at
>> spelling.writing,etc,etc.there are some people out there who understand what
>> us learners are trying to write or discribe?
>
> The value of written communication is entirely dependent on the other
> people being able to read and to understand what has been written.
>
> The basic rules of punctuation and grammar were developed for the sole
> purpose of ensuring that understanding. By choosing to ignore these
> rules you have deliberately chosen to make your written communication
> difficult if not impossible to understand.
>
> There are hundreds of new messages posted to this newsgroup every day
> by people seeking assistance, and the overwhelming majority of these
> are readable. When the volunteers who provide the assistance on these
> newsgroups encounter a message that is basically a combination of
> goobledygook and meaningless babble most of them will choose to simply
> ignore that item and move on to something that is less difficult to
> understand.
>
> You are quite free to continue posting messages as you have been.
> However others are equally free to simply ignore these items and move
> on to helping others. And one of those people could be the very one
> who has the actual answer to whatever your problem actually is.
>
> Good luck (and you are probably going to need it).
>
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

RonK
May 7th 06, 03:30 AM
Fix your keyboard ! The Space Bar and Shift keys must be broken !

"jelly bean" > wrote in message
...
> me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp and
> home
> were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can
> clearup
> the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to reactivate?
> --
> willing to learn more.

Manny Borges
May 8th 06, 06:20 PM
Yeah yeah, everything is someone else's fault.

Why should you bother being coherent; it's my job to decipher your
communicarehea.

Spell check. Grammar check. These are tools devised so that the fingerplexy
prone people like myself and you can create communications that follow the
rules of our language of choice. If you really must, compose your document
in a word processor and then copy and paste into your posting tool.

A working brain and a middleschool level of education should be all that
required to create a cogent paragraph.

You obviously have access to none of these tools or traits.

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.
"jelly bean" > wrote in message
...
> oh look?everyone someone who is so perfect they can go around picking such
> childish faults on others?we arnt all fantastic at
> spelling.writing,etc,etc.there are some people out there who understand
> what
> us learners are trying to write or discribe?we learners are trying does
> that
> sink into your arrogant little mind?and as for SHE?SHE gave me the pc so
> had
> no need to save any of her files and pictures,etc,etc.we people in this
> area
> take computers that are no longer any use to others as they are a little
> old,and we rebuild them and upgrade them for children whom cannot afford
> these types of items and live in poor areas.so a groupe of use do this
> work
> free of charge and at no expence to anyone.if we make mistakes then we try
> again as it costs nothing.ITS CALLED HELPING OTHERS NO MATTER HOW THEY
> SPELL,OR IF THEY CAN COMPREHEND WHAT A PARAGRAPH IS,ETC ETC ETC.do you go
> around the forum slighting everyone who carnt make themselves
> understood?are
> you realy here to help?or just have fun being a t**t?
> --
> willing to learn more.
>
>
> "Manny Borges" wrote:
>
>> Huh. You don't say?
>>
>> I will also suppose that you are new to spelling, grammar, and
>> punctuation.
>> Oh yeah, and don't let me forget coherent sentences.
>>
>> Do you understand how disinclined most people are to help someone who
>> can't
>> even be bothered to put a readable paragraph together.
>>
>> I mean really, why should I care about your problem if you can't be
>> bothered
>> to proof read it.
>>
>> Just for fun, who is her? And have you asked "her" about backing up any
>> important information like tax software information, important emails,
>> family pictures, and any other things that this user might want to
>> preserve?
>> --
>> Manny Borges
>> MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
>> MCT, Certified Cheese Master
>>
>> There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
>> and those who don't.
>>
>> "jelly bean" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > im fairly new to computers only started learning 8 months ago so not
>> > sure
>> > of
>> > termanolagy.sorry.your explanation is correct of what i was trying to
>> > write.thanx,but on closer inspection all the previous owners files are
>> > still
>> > left on pc,so what did i do wrong in that her files are still on pc?and
>> > can i
>> > just delete her files and computer will be fine or is there some
>> > serious
>> > error i have to correct?jelly,xx
>> > --
>> > willing to learn more.
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>> >
>> >> jelly bean wrote:
>> >> > me was origonaly on pc,i xp home the pc.activated it then found xp
>> >> > and
>> >> > home
>> >> > were entwined.oops,i dont want to re xp the hdd is there a way i can
>> >> > clearup
>> >> > the me off the hdd?would a repair work?so i do not have to
>> >> > reactivate?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From your vague description, it's not entirely clear just what you
>> >> did.
>> >> It sounds like you wanted to upgrade from WinMe to WinXP, but
>> >> instead
>> >> created some sort of dual-boot scenario, with both operating systems
>> >> installed onto the same hard drive partition. If so, you've created a
>> >> recipe for disaster. A careful, knowledgeable specialist can do this
>> >> safely for a short period of time, but the ordinary PC user had better
>> >> be backing up his data hourly, as a catastrophic failure is a matter
>> >> of
>> >> "when," rather than "if."
>> >>
>> >> At this point, your only viable course of action would be to back up
>> >> your data, format the hard drive, and then install WinXP.
>> >>
>> >> Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered
>> >> the
>> >> opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
>> >> installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot
>> >> devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)
>> >>
>> >> HOW TO Install Windows XP
>> >> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941
>> >>
>> >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
>> >>
>> >> http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Bruce Chambers
>> >>
>> >> Help us help you:
>> >> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> >> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>> >>
>> >> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> >> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Ron Martell
May 8th 06, 10:24 PM
Mr C > wrote:

>"By choosing to ignore these rules you have deliberately chosen to make
>your written communication difficult if not impossible to understand."
>
>I guess that means the same 'rules' discriminate against Dyslexics and
>people with similar learning difficulties then? I do agree that if you
>have trouble understanding what is posted then it is probably best to
>ignore it, but I'm also thinking that means not having an ego trip and
>being insulting rather than providing help to someone? If you don't
>understand then maybe you should ask for a little more clarity or
>ignore it and let those who have an idea of what is being asked do the
>answering.
>
My youngest daughter has dyslexia so I am well aware of the problems.
However my daughter tries, and when she runs into difficulties she
simply communicates that fact by saying or writing "I have dyslexia"..
The o.p. in this discussion however has made it apparent that he has
*chosen* to communicate in this manner, and that is an entirely
different situation.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

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