Monitor goes into standby mode during boot up

[TVeblen]

When I boot my box (cold boot or warm) the monitor works normally during
BIOS screens and right up until after the Windows XP splash screen
disappears. Then there is a pause in the boot process, the monitor power
button changes from green to orange, a 10 second or so delay, then the power
button turns green again and the rest of the boot goes normally. I'm trying
to eliminate this minor annoyance.
The graphics card is an Asus branded Radeon 9800 Pro with 256MB. The MB is a
P4C800E-Deluxe. There is no on board video.

When I first built the system I hooked it up to a MAG 720v CRT monitor via
the analog connector on the card. There were some issues getting the monitor
to work with the Radeon. I had to set some non-native resolutions and
refresh rates on the monitor. The delay occurred with the MAG from the
get-go. Obviously, the event occurs because the display is changing from
default 480x640 at boot to the preset display resolution when Windows loads.
I figured it was a MAG related problem and knowing I would upgrade the
monitor eventually, I ignored it.

So yesterday I upgraded. I moved a Dell 1901FP LCD digital monitor that I
have been
using on another system for 2 years and hooked it up to this system via the
DVI-D connector fully expecting the boot issue to disappear. No luck. Still
does it. This delay does not occur on another XP system with an ATI Radeon
9200SE card, either with the new LCD monitor or did it with the old 1901.

I have:
Installed the monitor drivers.
Updated the video driver (way back, during MAG days). (*see next post for
additional driver issue).
Checked to see that the resolution and refresh rates are native to the
monitor and the card.
Changed the resolution and refresh rates to other native settings.
In BIOS, toggled the PnP aware OS option from Yes to No, and from No to Yes.

Other than this boot delay, everything works fine with the video.
Anyone have any ideas on solving this annoyance?

[TVeblen]

Changed the graphics apeture up to 128 and down to 32. No change.
When I uninstall the ATI drivers and software and the card is running in
standard VGA the system boots normally.

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

And you have the latest drivers from ATI?

AGP apature should probably be left at 64mb in the BIOS. Plug and Play in
the BIOS should be set to NO.... XP can work it out for itself. Since you
know you have already had issues, it could be the card itself. Is it still
under guarantee?
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging
http://www.coribright.com/windows



"TVeblen" > wrote in message
...
> When I boot my box (cold boot or warm) the monitor works normally during
> BIOS screens and right up until after the Windows XP splash screen
> disappears. Then there is a pause in the boot process, the monitor power
> button changes from green to orange, a 10 second or so delay, then the
> power
> button turns green again and the rest of the boot goes normally. I'm
> trying
> to eliminate this minor annoyance.
> The graphics card is an Asus branded Radeon 9800 Pro with 256MB. The MB is
> a
> P4C800E-Deluxe. There is no on board video.
>
> When I first built the system I hooked it up to a MAG 720v CRT monitor via
> the analog connector on the card. There were some issues getting the
> monitor
> to work with the Radeon. I had to set some non-native resolutions and
> refresh rates on the monitor. The delay occurred with the MAG from the
> get-go. Obviously, the event occurs because the display is changing from
> default 480x640 at boot to the preset display resolution when Windows
> loads.
> I figured it was a MAG related problem and knowing I would upgrade the
> monitor eventually, I ignored it.
>
> So yesterday I upgraded. I moved a Dell 1901FP LCD digital monitor that I
> have been
> using on another system for 2 years and hooked it up to this system via
> the
> DVI-D connector fully expecting the boot issue to disappear. No luck.
> Still
> does it. This delay does not occur on another XP system with an ATI Radeon
> 9200SE card, either with the new LCD monitor or did it with the old 1901.
>
> I have:
> Installed the monitor drivers.
> Updated the video driver (way back, during MAG days). (*see next post for
> additional driver issue).
> Checked to see that the resolution and refresh rates are native to the
> monitor and the card.
> Changed the resolution and refresh rates to other native settings.
> In BIOS, toggled the PnP aware OS option from Yes to No, and from No to
> Yes.
>
> Other than this boot delay, everything works fine with the video.
> Anyone have any ideas on solving this annoyance?
>
>

[V Green]

Dang...I had thought I'd seen the last of this
problem...this was a fun one.

The Dell is a rebranded Samsung 191T and has been
programmed with a bad EDID on the DVI side.

Go here and scroll down
to post #28 to see what I had to do to fix it. I figured this
out back in 2004 when I had the same problem with my 191T.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33758908&page=1&pp=30


Hope you're the persistent type...it wasn't easy. Personally,
if you're not as affected by it as I was (no video on DVI
at all), I would just live with it.


"Cari (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> And you have the latest drivers from ATI?
>
> AGP apature should probably be left at 64mb in the BIOS. Plug and Play in
> the BIOS should be set to NO.... XP can work it out for itself. Since you
> know you have already had issues, it could be the card itself. Is it
still
> under guarantee?
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP)
> Printing & Imaging
> http://www.coribright.com/windows
>
>
>
> "TVeblen" > wrote in message
> ...
> > When I boot my box (cold boot or warm) the monitor works normally during
> > BIOS screens and right up until after the Windows XP splash screen
> > disappears. Then there is a pause in the boot process, the monitor power
> > button changes from green to orange, a 10 second or so delay, then the
> > power
> > button turns green again and the rest of the boot goes normally. I'm
> > trying
> > to eliminate this minor annoyance.
> > The graphics card is an Asus branded Radeon 9800 Pro with 256MB. The MB
is
> > a
> > P4C800E-Deluxe. There is no on board video.
> >
> > When I first built the system I hooked it up to a MAG 720v CRT monitor
via
> > the analog connector on the card. There were some issues getting the
> > monitor
> > to work with the Radeon. I had to set some non-native resolutions and
> > refresh rates on the monitor. The delay occurred with the MAG from the
> > get-go. Obviously, the event occurs because the display is changing from
> > default 480x640 at boot to the preset display resolution when Windows
> > loads.
> > I figured it was a MAG related problem and knowing I would upgrade the
> > monitor eventually, I ignored it.
> >
> > So yesterday I upgraded. I moved a Dell 1901FP LCD digital monitor that
I
> > have been
> > using on another system for 2 years and hooked it up to this system via
> > the
> > DVI-D connector fully expecting the boot issue to disappear. No luck.
> > Still
> > does it. This delay does not occur on another XP system with an ATI
Radeon
> > 9200SE card, either with the new LCD monitor or did it with the old
1901.
> >
> > I have:
> > Installed the monitor drivers.
> > Updated the video driver (way back, during MAG days). (*see next post
for
> > additional driver issue).
> > Checked to see that the resolution and refresh rates are native to the
> > monitor and the card.
> > Changed the resolution and refresh rates to other native settings.
> > In BIOS, toggled the PnP aware OS option from Yes to No, and from No to
> > Yes.
> >
> > Other than this boot delay, everything works fine with the video.
> > Anyone have any ideas on solving this annoyance?
> >
> >
>
>

[TVeblen]

"Cari (MS-MVP)" > wrote in message
...
> And you have the latest drivers from ATI?
>
> AGP apature should probably be left at 64mb in the BIOS. Plug and Play in
> the BIOS should be set to NO.... XP can work it out for itself. Since you
> know you have already had issues, it could be the card itself. Is it
> still under guarantee?

Very well could be. And a real possibility.

[TVeblen]

"V Green" > wrote in message
...
> Dang...I had thought I'd seen the last of this
> problem...this was a fun one.
>
> The Dell is a rebranded Samsung 191T and has been
> programmed with a bad EDID on the DVI side.
>
> Go here and scroll down
> to post #28 to see what I had to do to fix it. I figured this
> out back in 2004 when I had the same problem with my 191T.
>
> http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33758908&page=1&pp=30
>
>
> Hope you're the persistent type...it wasn't easy. Personally,
> if you're not as affected by it as I was (no video on DVI
> at all), I would just live with it.
>
But... But...
It did this behavior with both monitors.
But I will look. Thanks. The quest goes on!

[V Green]

"TVeblen" > wrote in message
et...
>
> "V Green" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Dang...I had thought I'd seen the last of this
> > problem...this was a fun one.
> >
> > The Dell is a rebranded Samsung 191T and has been
> > programmed with a bad EDID on the DVI side.
> >
> > Go here and scroll down
> > to post #28 to see what I had to do to fix it. I figured this
> > out back in 2004 when I had the same problem with my 191T.
> >
> > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33758908&page=1&pp=30
> >
> >
> > Hope you're the persistent type...it wasn't easy. Personally,
> > if you're not as affected by it as I was (no video on DVI
> > at all), I would just live with it.
> >
> But... But...
> It did this behavior with both monitors.

Ooops, you're right...

But it sure sounded like the same symptoms...
Anyway, take a look. There are other links in
the post that may help (if they're not dead now).

> But I will look. Thanks. The quest goes on!
>
>

[TVeblen]

"V Green" > wrote in message
...
>
> "TVeblen" > wrote in message
> et...
>>
>> "V Green" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Dang...I had thought I'd seen the last of this
>> > problem...this was a fun one.
>> >
>> > The Dell is a rebranded Samsung 191T and has been
>> > programmed with a bad EDID on the DVI side.
>> >
>> > Go here and scroll down
>> > to post #28 to see what I had to do to fix it. I figured this
>> > out back in 2004 when I had the same problem with my 191T.
>> >
>> > http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33758908&page=1&pp=30
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope you're the persistent type...it wasn't easy. Personally,
>> > if you're not as affected by it as I was (no video on DVI
>> > at all), I would just live with it.
>> >
>> But... But...
>> It did this behavior with both monitors.
>
> Ooops, you're right...
>
> But it sure sounded like the same symptoms...
> Anyway, take a look. There are other links in
> the post that may help (if they're not dead now).
>
>> But I will look. Thanks. The quest goes on!
>>

It *is* the same symptoms. This is the best lead I've gotten yet. Thanks
It's got to be something about the card's firmware or the driver. Thing is,
I had this card, with this monitor, motherboard, and OS installed in another
system and everything worked fine. But that was when all the parts were new
and it was DVI from the git-go. This new build started out analog. A couple
posts on your site mentioned something about getting the analog/DVI
switching set correctly. I've been chasing my tail so far. This sounds
promising.
Thanks again.