(Third try) Windows Explorer does not remember window size

[Van Knowles]

Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got last
week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for the
other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).

So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.

Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
8000 didn't work in my case.

Any other ideas?

Thanks!

-Van

=========== Original post below: ===========

I found a post on this newsgroup that was very similar to
my problem.

On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer window so
it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.

After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
back up in a totally different shape and size.

This is rather annoying, but not terrible.

One solution offered in another posting was:

"Try restting the folder settings: Delete the Registry keys
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
both with
all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
and "Bags" here. At
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
create a new
DWORD entry
BagMRU Size
and set this to
5000
Restart the computer."

Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I have
done?

I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am sure
this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.

Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other posting
ended there.

Thanks!

-Van

[Richard]

Hi Van,

One more thing to try.

Right click the explorer shortcut and click Properites.

Set the Run drop down box to Maximized. This will ( should ) make you first
explorer window full size.

Second and third and future screens will open normal size. For these grab
the lower right corner and drag it to the size you want. After that the
second and future screens should open to the size they are set. That is to
say they should only have to be adjusted the first time they are opened.

Using the expand key in the upper right will expand them but the next time
they will revert to standard.

Hope this works for you. It does for me.

Richard

"Van Knowles" > wrote in message
...
> Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got last
> week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for the
> other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).
>
> So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
> Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.
>
> Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
> 8000 didn't work in my case.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Van
>
> =========== Original post below: ===========
>
> I found a post on this newsgroup that was very similar to
> my problem.
>
> On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer window so
> it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.
>
> After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
> back up in a totally different shape and size.
>
> This is rather annoying, but not terrible.
>
> One solution offered in another posting was:
>
> "Try restting the folder settings: Delete the Registry keys
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags and
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
> both with
> all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
> and "Bags" here. At
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
> create a new
> DWORD entry
> BagMRU Size
> and set this to
> 5000
> Restart the computer."
>
> Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I have
> done?
>
> I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am sure
> this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.
>
> Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other posting
> ended there.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Van
>
>
>

[Milt]

Van,
As far as increasing the size of the folder view memory, have you tried
Kelly's XP Korner at http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp.htm ? On the
"Tweaks" page line #2, left hand column is "Increase Folder View Size". The
instructions for applying it are at the top of the Tweaks page.

Hope this helps,
Milt

at > wrote in message
...
> Hi Van,
>
> One more thing to try.
>
> Right click the explorer shortcut and click Properites.
>
> Set the Run drop down box to Maximized. This will ( should ) make you
first
> explorer window full size.
>
> Second and third and future screens will open normal size. For these grab
> the lower right corner and drag it to the size you want. After that the
> second and future screens should open to the size they are set. That is to
> say they should only have to be adjusted the first time they are opened.
>
> Using the expand key in the upper right will expand them but the next
time
> they will revert to standard.
>
> Hope this works for you. It does for me.
>
> Richard
>
> "Van Knowles" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got last
> > week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for the
> > other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).
> >
> > So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
> > Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.
> >
> > Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
> > 8000 didn't work in my case.
> >
> > Any other ideas?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Van
> >
> > =========== Original post below: ===========
> >
> > I found a post on this newsgroup that was very similar to
> > my problem.
> >
> > On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer window so
> > it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.
> >
> > After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
> > back up in a totally different shape and size.
> >
> > This is rather annoying, but not terrible.
> >
> > One solution offered in another posting was:
> >
> > "Try restting the folder settings: Delete the Registry keys
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags and
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
> > both with
> > all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
> > and "Bags" here. At
> > HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
> > create a new
> > DWORD entry
> > BagMRU Size
> > and set this to
> > 5000
> > Restart the computer."
> >
> > Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I have
> > done?
> >
> > I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am sure
> > this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.
> >
> > Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other posting
> > ended there.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Van
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Michael Solomon \(MS-MVP-Windows Shell/User\)]

Try this, open Windows Explorer
Close all other windows.
Stretch the edges/corners of the window so that it is the size you want
(don't use the maximize button).
Close the window that way, then try opening Explorer again and see if it
then opens as the size you want.


--
Michael Solomon MS-MVP
Windows Shell/User
Backup is a PC User's Best Friend

"Van Knowles" > wrote in message
...
> Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got last
> week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for the
> other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).
>
> So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
> Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.
>
> Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
> 8000 didn't work in my case.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Van
>
> =========== Original post below: ===========
>
> I found a post on this newsgroup that was very similar to
> my problem.
>
> On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer window so
> it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.
>
> After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
> back up in a totally different shape and size.
>
> This is rather annoying, but not terrible.
>
> One solution offered in another posting was:
>
> "Try restting the folder settings: Delete the Registry keys
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags and
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
> both with
> all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
> and "Bags" here. At
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
> create a new
> DWORD entry
> BagMRU Size
> and set this to
> 5000
> Restart the computer."
>
> Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I have
> done?
>
> I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am sure
> this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.
>
> Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other posting
> ended there.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Van
>
>
>

[Van Knowles]

Hey, I do that at least once a day, and as soon as I
logoff/logon or reboot, the Explorer window pops up in its
default size and shape (sort of squarish, more or less
centered in the screen).

Here's as much detail as I can think of:
1. I have two Windows Explorer shortcuts in my Startup
folder, so two WE windows open when I login.
2. It doesn't happen every time I login, but when I do
notice the WE window isn't the way I want it, I just close
everything (except one WE window), resize it, and close
that. Then I manually open two WE windows, both of which
open the way I want.
3. I use Remote Desktop a lot to access this machine, but
the same problem seems to occur when I use it locally.

I also have a Win2K machine and never have seen this
problem on it.

Thanks for any further ideas!

-Van

>-----Original Message-----
>Try this, open Windows Explorer
>Close all other windows.
>Stretch the edges/corners of the window so that it is the
size you want
>(don't use the maximize button).
>Close the window that way, then try opening Explorer
again and see if it
>then opens as the size you want.
>
>
>--
>Michael Solomon MS-MVP
>Windows Shell/User
>Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
>
>"Van Knowles" > wrote in message
...
>> Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got last
>> week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for the
>> other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).
>>
>> So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
>> Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.
>>
>> Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
>> 8000 didn't work in my case.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Van
>>
>> =========== Original post below: ===========
>>
>> I found a post on this newsgroup that was very similar
to
>> my problem.
>>
>> On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer window
so
>> it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.
>>
>> After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
>> back up in a totally different shape and size.
>>
>> This is rather annoying, but not terrible.
>>
>> One solution offered in another posting was:
>>
>> "Try restting the folder settings: Delete the Registry
keys
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags
and
>>
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
>> both with
>> all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
>> and "Bags" here. At
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
>> create a new
>> DWORD entry
>> BagMRU Size
>> and set this to
>> 5000
>> Restart the computer."
>>
>> Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I have
>> done?
>>
>> I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am sure
>> this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.
>>
>> Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other posting
>> ended there.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Van
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>.
>

[Van Knowles]

Milt,
If I am not mistaken, the registry hack I listed is more
or less the same as the one at kellys-korner. And I'm
pretty sure that's the same as what TweakUI does.

I am more and more convinced that "folder view size"
or "folders to remember" is not the problem here. I think
that refers to the number of folders W.E. can save view
settings for, not the number of _window_ settings that XP
saves!

Thanks anyway.

-Van

>-----Original Message-----
>Van,
> As far as increasing the size of the folder view
memory, have you tried
>Kelly's XP Korner at http://www.kellys-korner-
xp.com/xp.htm ? On the
>"Tweaks" page line #2, left hand column is "Increase
Folder View Size". The
>instructions for applying it are at the top of the Tweaks
page.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Milt
>
>at > wrote in message
...
>> Hi Van,
>>
>> One more thing to try.
>>
>> Right click the explorer shortcut and click Properites.
>>
>> Set the Run drop down box to Maximized. This will (
should ) make you
>first
>> explorer window full size.
>>
>> Second and third and future screens will open normal
size. For these grab
>> the lower right corner and drag it to the size you
want. After that the
>> second and future screens should open to the size they
are set. That is to
>> say they should only have to be adjusted the first time
they are opened.
>>
>> Using the expand key in the upper right will expand
them but the next
>time
>> they will revert to standard.
>>
>> Hope this works for you. It does for me.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> "Van Knowles" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got
last
>> > week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for
the
>> > other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).
>> >
>> > So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
>> > Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.
>> >
>> > Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
>> > 8000 didn't work in my case.
>> >
>> > Any other ideas?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > -Van
>> >
>> > =========== Original post below: ===========
>> >
>> > I found a post on this newsgroup that was very
similar to
>> > my problem.
>> >
>> > On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer
window so
>> > it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.
>> >
>> > After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
>> > back up in a totally different shape and size.
>> >
>> > This is rather annoying, but not terrible.
>> >
>> > One solution offered in another posting was:
>> >
>> > "Try restting the folder settings: Delete the
Registry keys
>> >
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags and
>> >
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
>> > both with
>> > all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
>> > and "Bags" here. At
>> >
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
>> > create a new
>> > DWORD entry
>> > BagMRU Size
>> > and set this to
>> > 5000
>> > Restart the computer."
>> >
>> > Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I
have
>> > done?
>> >
>> > I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am
sure
>> > this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.
>> >
>> > Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other
posting
>> > ended there.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > -Van
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>.
>

[Maureen Goldman]

>"Van Knowles" > wrote:
>1. I have two Windows Explorer shortcuts in my Startup
>folder, so two WE windows open when I login.

Do you have the properties for those startup shortcuts configured to
open maximum size?

[David Candy]

Kelly's tweak deletes all saved settings for folders as well. This is =
usually all that is required to fix. Raising the limit won't fix it, but =
reduces the chance of the saved settings becoming corrupted in the =
future.

But you have to delete the corrupt settings first and Kel's reg file =
does that as well.
--=20
http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/webdiary/index.html
---------------------------------------------------------------
David Candy
http://www.mvps.org/serenitymacros
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Van Knowles" > wrote in message =
...
> Milt,
> If I am not mistaken, the registry hack I listed is more=20
> or less the same as the one at kellys-korner. And I'm=20
> pretty sure that's the same as what TweakUI does.
>=20
> I am more and more convinced that "folder view size"=20
> or "folders to remember" is not the problem here. I think=20
> that refers to the number of folders W.E. can save view=20
> settings for, not the number of _window_ settings that XP=20
> saves!
>=20
> Thanks anyway.
>=20
> -Van
>=20
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Van,
> > As far as increasing the size of the folder view=20
> memory, have you tried
> >Kelly's XP Korner at http://www.kellys-korner-
> xp.com/xp.htm ? On the
> >"Tweaks" page line #2, left hand column is "Increase=20
> Folder View Size". The
> >instructions for applying it are at the top of the Tweaks=20
> page.
> >
> >Hope this helps,
> >Milt
> >
> >at > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hi Van,
> >>
> >> One more thing to try.
> >>
> >> Right click the explorer shortcut and click Properites.
> >>
> >> Set the Run drop down box to Maximized. This will (=20
> should ) make you
> >first
> >> explorer window full size.
> >>
> >> Second and third and future screens will open normal=20
> size. For these grab
> >> the lower right corner and drag it to the size you=20
> want. After that the
> >> second and future screens should open to the size they=20
> are set. That is to
> >> say they should only have to be adjusted the first time=20
> they are opened.
> >>
> >> Using the expand key in the upper right will expand=20
> them but the next
> >time
> >> they will revert to standard.
> >>
> >> Hope this works for you. It does for me.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> "Van Knowles" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Hi. I am re-posting this because the replies I got=20
> last
> >> > week and this week didn't work (nor did it work for=20
> the
> >> > other post I found on the newsgroup for this problem).
> >> >
> >> > So now I know that using the CTRL key while closing
> >> > Windows Explorer does _not_ work in my case.
> >> >
> >> > Also using TweakUI to set the "Folders to remember" to
> >> > 8000 didn't work in my case.
> >> >
> >> > Any other ideas?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > -Van
> >> >
> >> > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Original post below: =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> >
> >> > I found a post on this newsgroup that was very=20
> similar to
> >> > my problem.
> >> >
> >> > On my XP Pro system, I size the Windows Explorer=20
> window so
> >> > it covers the top half of my screen. Then I close it.
> >> >
> >> > After I logoff or reboot, about half the time it comes
> >> > back up in a totally different shape and size.
> >> >
> >> > This is rather annoying, but not terrible.
> >> >
> >> > One solution offered in another posting was:
> >> >
> >> > "Try restting the folder settings: Delete the=20
> Registry keys
> >> >=20
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \Bags and
> >> >=20
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell \BagMRU,
> >> > both with
> >> > all the subentries, then create new keys "BagMRU"
> >> > and "Bags" here. At
> >> >=20
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam
> >> > create a new
> >> > DWORD entry
> >> > BagMRU Size
> >> > and set this to
> >> > 5000
> >> > Restart the computer."
> >> >
> >> > Is this different from using the new TweakUI, as I=20
> have
> >> > done?
> >> >
> >> > I am hesitant to mess with the registry unless I am=20
> sure
> >> > this is safe _and_ that it is going to work.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone verify this as a solution? The other=20
> posting
> >> > ended there.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > -Van
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >.
> >

[Van Knowles]

No, I have them set to "normal window".

-Van

>-----Original Message-----
>>"Van Knowles" > wrote:
>>1. I have two Windows Explorer shortcuts in my Startup
>>folder, so two WE windows open when I login.
>
>Do you have the properties for those startup shortcuts
configured to
>open maximum size?
>
>.
>

[Maureen Goldman]

>>>"Van Knowles" > wrote:
>>>1. I have two Windows Explorer shortcuts in my Startup
>>>folder, so two WE windows open when I login.

> Maureen Goldman
>>Do you have the properties for those startup shortcuts
>configured to open maximum size?

>"Van Knowles" > wrote:
>No, I have them set to "normal window".

Definitely, try maximize.

I use a windows key shortcut utility called Winkey. My ie shortcut has
the maximum window setting. I just experimented to see what would
happen with normal. The first time, it went to a maximized window. I
then dimished the size of that window somewhat, exited via alt-F4.
Tried the shortcut again, and it went to the smaller size. Seems as
though "normal" is whatever was last in the eye of the beholder.