academicly priced versions of Windows XP

[yawnmoth]

I'd like to buy an academically discounted version of Windows XP and am
having a tough time finding out if any actually exist.

E85-02670 is described as "ACAD UPG WINDOWS XP PRO W/ SP2 ENG AE" and
sells for $89.95 on a random website, which is cheaper than the $99.95
they list for the Windowss XP Home upgrade, but it's also an upgrade.
What if I want to do a full install?

Supposedly, some colleges sell Microsoft software that, although
marketed as upgrades, are actually full versions. They're called
upgrades, as I understand it, because a Windows license is supposed to
be owned prior to purchase (even though the installer doesn't check).
Is this true of E85-02670, as well? Can E85-02670 be installed from
scratch despite its being described as an upgrade?

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

The best source for academic products and information can be found by asking
at the school where you qualify for such products.
Most major schools have a department to handle this.
Check with the book store or the IT department.

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"yawnmoth" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I'd like to buy an academically discounted version of Windows XP and am
> having a tough time finding out if any actually exist.
>
> E85-02670 is described as "ACAD UPG WINDOWS XP PRO W/ SP2 ENG AE" and
> sells for $89.95 on a random website, which is cheaper than the $99.95
> they list for the Windowss XP Home upgrade, but it's also an upgrade.
> What if I want to do a full install?
>
> Supposedly, some colleges sell Microsoft software that, although
> marketed as upgrades, are actually full versions. They're called
> upgrades, as I understand it, because a Windows license is supposed to
> be owned prior to purchase (even though the installer doesn't check).
> Is this true of E85-02670, as well? Can E85-02670 be installed from
> scratch despite its being described as an upgrade?
>

[sgopus]

most likely it won't allow install on a blank hd, unless you have a previous
version media
if you have the media then it should allow from scratch install



"yawnmoth" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I'd like to buy an academically discounted version of Windows XP and am
> having a tough time finding out if any actually exist.
>
> E85-02670 is described as "ACAD UPG WINDOWS XP PRO W/ SP2 ENG AE" and
> sells for $89.95 on a random website, which is cheaper than the $99.95
> they list for the Windowss XP Home upgrade, but it's also an upgrade.
> What if I want to do a full install?
>
> Supposedly, some colleges sell Microsoft software that, although
> marketed as upgrades, are actually full versions. They're called
> upgrades, as I understand it, because a Windows license is supposed to
> be owned prior to purchase (even though the installer doesn't check).
> Is this true of E85-02670, as well? Can E85-02670 be installed from
> scratch despite its being described as an upgrade?
>

[Harry Ohrn MS MVP]

Typically Upgrade versions can be used to do a fresh install. Boot off the
Upgrade CD and begin the Install. You will be prompted for a qualifying
product. At that point you simply remove the XP CD and insert your earlier
version of a Windows CD (can be Windows 98 or Me or 2000) which will do a
short check and then prompt you for your XP CD again. You can then install
as per usual. Legitimate Upgrade CDs are bootable.

Here is the hitch.
1) An Academic version is like and OEM version with respect to it being tied
to the first system it is installed on.
2) It differs from an OEM version in that it can not be transferred. An OEM
while locked to the system it is first installed on can accompany that
computer if you sell the computer. However an Academic version is tied to
the purchaser so if you sell/give away etc the system you must uninstall the
academic version.
3) The qualifying version of Windows used to satisfy the request during the
initial setup is considered to now be part of the install process and it too
becomes tiled to the system and non transferable.

The above restrictions are there due to the very low price you pay for an
academic version.

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]


"yawnmoth" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I'd like to buy an academically discounted version of Windows XP and am
> having a tough time finding out if any actually exist.
>
> E85-02670 is described as "ACAD UPG WINDOWS XP PRO W/ SP2 ENG AE" and
> sells for $89.95 on a random website, which is cheaper than the $99.95
> they list for the Windowss XP Home upgrade, but it's also an upgrade.
> What if I want to do a full install?
>
> Supposedly, some colleges sell Microsoft software that, although
> marketed as upgrades, are actually full versions. They're called
> upgrades, as I understand it, because a Windows license is supposed to
> be owned prior to purchase (even though the installer doesn't check).
> Is this true of E85-02670, as well? Can E85-02670 be installed from
> scratch despite its being described as an upgrade?
>

[Nick]

"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" > wrote in message
...
> The best source for academic products and information can be found by
> asking at the school where you qualify for such products.
> Most major schools have a department to handle this.
> Check with the book store or the IT department.

In the UK Health Service, the requirement for this kind of discount is that
you have a NHS (National Health Service) email address.

Nick

[yawnmoth]

Harry Ohrn MS MVP wrote:
> Typically Upgrade versions can be used to do a fresh install. Boot off the
> Upgrade CD and begin the Install. You will be prompted for a qualifying
> product. At that point you simply remove the XP CD and insert your earlier
> version of a Windows CD (can be Windows 98 or Me or 2000) which will do a
> short check and then prompt you for your XP CD again. You can then install
> as per usual. Legitimate Upgrade CDs are bootable.
>
> Here is the hitch.
> 1) An Academic version is like and OEM version with respect to it being tied
> to the first system it is installed on.
> 2) It differs from an OEM version in that it can not be transferred. An OEM
> while locked to the system it is first installed on can accompany that
> computer if you sell the computer. However an Academic version is tied to
> the purchaser so if you sell/give away etc the system you must uninstall the
> academic version.
> 3) The qualifying version of Windows used to satisfy the request during the
> initial setup is considered to now be part of the install process and it too
> becomes tiled to the system and non transferable.
I'm told that versions sold under the Microsoft Campus Agreement do not
have this requirement, though - that they (unlike the upgrade I
described in the OP) will do fresh installs without verifying that a
license is owned, even though a license is required to buy them.

Why would these not need to verify the license whereas the academic
upgrade would?

Also... I take it this is the only academically priced boxed version
of Windows XP that anyone - with any academic affiliation - can
purchase? Or are there full versions that are academically priced?