"Resource Ram" - What it is, How to expand it

[_DD]

No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
the context menu.

I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."

My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
it?

[Tim Slattery]

_DD > wrote:

>No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
>windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
>or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
>the context menu.
>
>I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
>machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."
>
>My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
>it?

"System Resources" were frequently a problem in Win95 and Win98. But
XP handles things much differently, and this is extremely rare. It's
very unlikely that this is the cause of your problem.

I know that MS Office can be set to show only the most frequently used
items on a menu, that could make them look incomplete. Right-click the
toolbar in an Office app, select "Customize", look at the "Options"
tab. If "Always show full menus" is not checked, you'll see short
menus with only the most frequently used options appearing.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)

[_DD]

On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:07:32 -0400, Tim Slattery >
wrote:

>_DD > wrote:
>
>>No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
>>windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
>>or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
>>the context menu.
>>
>>I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
>>machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."
>>
>>My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
>>it?
>
>"System Resources" were frequently a problem in Win95 and Win98. But
>XP handles things much differently, and this is extremely rare. It's
>very unlikely that this is the cause of your problem.
>
>I know that MS Office can be set to show only the most frequently used
>items on a menu, that could make them look incomplete.

Thanks for your reply. The problem has nothing to do with Office
though. It's a problem with everything opened in WinXP. I do tend to
open a lot of windows, especially IE browser sessions. At some point
all menus stop working. This includes context menus for all apps, not
just IE.

Given that, it seems related to something apart from normal system
ram. Monitors indicate that system ram usage is fine.

Closing a couple IE windows or Explorer windows will re-enable menus.
It seems necessary to closee ALL IE sessions before IE's memory is
relinquished.

This happens on several different systems, including fresh XP
installs.

[Rock]

>>_DD wrote:
>>
>>>No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
>>>windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
>>>or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
>>>the context menu.
>>>
>>>I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
>>>machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."
>>>
>>>My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
>>>it?
>>
>>"System Resources" were frequently a problem in Win95 and Win98. But
>>XP handles things much differently, and this is extremely rare. It's
>>very unlikely that this is the cause of your problem.
>>
>>I know that MS Office can be set to show only the most frequently used
>>items on a menu, that could make them look incomplete.
>
> Thanks for your reply. The problem has nothing to do with Office
> though. It's a problem with everything opened in WinXP. I do tend to
> open a lot of windows, especially IE browser sessions. At some point
> all menus stop working. This includes context menus for all apps, not
> just IE.
>
> Given that, it seems related to something apart from normal system
> ram. Monitors indicate that system ram usage is fine.
>
> Closing a couple IE windows or Explorer windows will re-enable menus.
> It seems necessary to closee ALL IE sessions before IE's memory is
> relinquished.
>
> This happens on several different systems, including fresh XP
> installs.

There was a long discussion in here about a year ago about this issue. That
poster had about 30 windows open and ran into the same problem. He found an
article that discussed resources, but unfortunately I don't have the
reference to it and a cursory check in the KB came up empty. I don't know
if he was every able to resolve the issue for his needs.
I know this doesn't help you but it has been brought up, though not very
often.

--
Rock [ MVP User/Shell]

[Bob I]

This document perhaps?
http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/b/a/eba1050f-a31d-436b-9281-92cdfeae4b45/mem-mgmt.doc&&DI=6066&IG=63011cf5a0704a34ac62291f277a9af0&POS=4&CM=WPU&CE=4&CS=AWP&SR=4

Rock wrote:

>
>>> _DD wrote:
>>>
>>>> No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
>>>> windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
>>>> or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
>>>> the context menu.
>>>>
>>>> I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
>>>> machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."
>>>>
>>>> My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
>>>> it?
>>>
>>>
>>> "System Resources" were frequently a problem in Win95 and Win98. But
>>> XP handles things much differently, and this is extremely rare. It's
>>> very unlikely that this is the cause of your problem.
>>>
>>> I know that MS Office can be set to show only the most frequently used
>>> items on a menu, that could make them look incomplete.
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your reply. The problem has nothing to do with Office
>> though. It's a problem with everything opened in WinXP. I do tend to
>> open a lot of windows, especially IE browser sessions. At some point
>> all menus stop working. This includes context menus for all apps, not
>> just IE.
>>
>> Given that, it seems related to something apart from normal system
>> ram. Monitors indicate that system ram usage is fine.
>>
>> Closing a couple IE windows or Explorer windows will re-enable menus.
>> It seems necessary to closee ALL IE sessions before IE's memory is
>> relinquished.
>>
>> This happens on several different systems, including fresh XP
>> installs.
>
>
> There was a long discussion in here about a year ago about this issue.
> That poster had about 30 windows open and ran into the same problem. He
> found an article that discussed resources, but unfortunately I don't
> have the reference to it and a cursory check in the KB came up empty. I
> don't know if he was every able to resolve the issue for his needs.
> I know this doesn't help you but it has been brought up, though not very
> often.
>

[Rock]

"Bob I" wrote
> This document perhaps?

> http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/b/a/eba1050f-a31d-436b-9281-92cdfeae4b45/mem-mgmt.doc&&DI=6066&IG=63011cf5a0704a34ac62291f277a9af0&POS=4&CM=WPU&CE=4&CS=AWP&SR=4
>
> Rock wrote:
>
>>
>>>> _DD wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
>>>>> windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
>>>>> or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
>>>>> the context menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
>>>>> machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."
>>>>>
>>>>> My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
>>>>> it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "System Resources" were frequently a problem in Win95 and Win98. But
>>>> XP handles things much differently, and this is extremely rare. It's
>>>> very unlikely that this is the cause of your problem.
>>>>
>>>> I know that MS Office can be set to show only the most frequently used
>>>> items on a menu, that could make them look incomplete.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your reply. The problem has nothing to do with Office
>>> though. It's a problem with everything opened in WinXP. I do tend to
>>> open a lot of windows, especially IE browser sessions. At some point
>>> all menus stop working. This includes context menus for all apps, not
>>> just IE.
>>>
>>> Given that, it seems related to something apart from normal system
>>> ram. Monitors indicate that system ram usage is fine.
>>>
>>> Closing a couple IE windows or Explorer windows will re-enable menus.
>>> It seems necessary to closee ALL IE sessions before IE's memory is
>>> relinquished.
>>>
>>> This happens on several different systems, including fresh XP
>>> installs.
>>
>>
>> There was a long discussion in here about a year ago about this issue.
>> That poster had about 30 windows open and ran into the same problem. He
>> found an article that discussed resources, but unfortunately I don't have
>> the reference to it and a cursory check in the KB came up empty. I don't
>> know if he was every able to resolve the issue for his needs.
>> I know this doesn't help you but it has been brought up, though not very
>> often.

Hmmm..I get a 404 error - web page, not found with that link.

--
Rock [ MVP User/Shell]

[Bob I]

Try this link instead, it's working, I just tried it.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/b/a/eba1050f-a31d-436b-9281-92cdfeae4b45/mem-mgmt.doc

Rock wrote:

> "Bob I" wrote
>
>> This document perhaps?
>
>
>> http://download.microsoft.com/download/e/b/a/eba1050f-a31d-436b-9281-92cdfeae4b45/mem-mgmt.doc&&DI=6066&IG=63011cf5a0704a34ac62291f277a9af0&POS=4&CM=WPU&CE=4&CS=AWP&SR=4
>>
>>
>> Rock wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>>> _DD wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> No matter how much ram is on a given machine, after about twelve IE
>>>>>> windows are open, I always see the same thing: Menus don't drop down
>>>>>> or they are incomplete, or the right mouse button stops dropping down
>>>>>> the context menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I realize that this is not related to the amount of main ram on the
>>>>>> machine, but is a function of availalble "Resource memory."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question: Where is this documented? Is there any way to increase
>>>>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "System Resources" were frequently a problem in Win95 and Win98. But
>>>>> XP handles things much differently, and this is extremely rare. It's
>>>>> very unlikely that this is the cause of your problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that MS Office can be set to show only the most frequently used
>>>>> items on a menu, that could make them look incomplete.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your reply. The problem has nothing to do with Office
>>>> though. It's a problem with everything opened in WinXP. I do tend to
>>>> open a lot of windows, especially IE browser sessions. At some point
>>>> all menus stop working. This includes context menus for all apps, not
>>>> just IE.
>>>>
>>>> Given that, it seems related to something apart from normal system
>>>> ram. Monitors indicate that system ram usage is fine.
>>>>
>>>> Closing a couple IE windows or Explorer windows will re-enable menus.
>>>> It seems necessary to closee ALL IE sessions before IE's memory is
>>>> relinquished.
>>>>
>>>> This happens on several different systems, including fresh XP
>>>> installs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> There was a long discussion in here about a year ago about this
>>> issue. That poster had about 30 windows open and ran into the same
>>> problem. He found an article that discussed resources, but
>>> unfortunately I don't have the reference to it and a cursory check in
>>> the KB came up empty. I don't know if he was every able to resolve
>>> the issue for his needs.
>>> I know this doesn't help you but it has been brought up, though not
>>> very often.
>
>
> Hmmm..I get a 404 error - web page, not found with that link.
>

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just a guess, but try doing this: empty the IE cache, and be sure it is
set to hold no more than about 25 GB - that's plenty of cache space. IE
by default allows a much larger cache, and it often gets "confused" when
it fills up.

tools | internet options | temp files section, delete files button

then settings button.

Also, the BEST way to truely wipe the IE cache is to log out, log in w/
the admin account, and nav to the user's Local Settings folder (it's
hidden), then trash the Temp. Int. Files folder. When you log back it it
will be recreated. This ensure that the various index.dat files get wiped
too, as well as any misc data written in there (by AIM for instance).

good luck.