USB works only in SAFE Mode [Archive]

Rick Rogers

October 26th 06, 11:41 AM

Hi,

Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

"Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
...
> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
> mode.
>
> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
> when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
> correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
> the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>
> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
> if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
> USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>
> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>
>
>

Pegasus \(MVP\)

October 26th 06, 12:35 PM

"Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
...
> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
> mode.
>
> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
> when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
> correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
the
> problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>
> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
if
> I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using USB
> devices no longer get corrupted.
>
> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>
>
>

When finished, fix your clock. You're one day ahead of the
rest of the world.

Mark

October 26th 06, 12:45 PM

Been there done that :-)

Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager looks
fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have also re
applied SP2.

Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every thing
looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move them about
via the USB ports.

It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to be a
driver some where and not just a faulty hub.

Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
"Rick Rogers" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
> ...
>> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
>> safe mode.
>>
>> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
>> when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not
>> open correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
>> with the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>>
>> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
>> if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
>> USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>>
>> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>>
>>
>>
>

R. McCarty

October 26th 06, 12:59 PM

USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).

Check your System Event log for errors:
Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]

Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
If not updated recently, would be worth installing.

I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
& set it's value = 1
Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
1.) USB
2.) Storage Volumes
3.) Disk Drives

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
> Been there done that :-)
>
> Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager looks
> fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have also re
> applied SP2.
>
> Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every thing
> looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move them
> about via the USB ports.
>
> It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to be
> a driver some where and not just a faulty hub.
>
> Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
> "Rick Rogers" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hi,
>>
>> Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575
>>
>> --
>> Best of Luck,
>>
>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>
>> "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
>>> safe mode.
>>>
>>> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
>>> when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not
>>> open correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
>>> with the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>>>
>>> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
>>> if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
>>> USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>>>
>>> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Mark

October 26th 06, 02:20 PM

"R. McCarty" > wrote in message
...
> USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
> transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
> Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).

Done
>
> Check your System Event log for errors:
> Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
>

Clean
> Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
> If not updated recently, would be worth installing.
>

Done

> I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
> DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
> & set it's value = 1
> Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
> Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
> all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
> 1.) USB
> 2.) Storage Volumes
> 3.) Disk Drives
>
Done.. No change... In safe mode it all work OK, but in normal mode the
errors on ant files being moved across the USB system is unusable.. Where
to from here ?
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Been there done that :-)
>>
>> Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager looks
>> fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have also re
>> applied SP2.
>>
>> Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every thing
>> looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move them
>> about via the USB ports.
>>
>> It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to be
>> a driver some where and not just a faulty hub.
>>
>> Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
>> "Rick Rogers" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best of Luck,
>>>
>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>
>>> "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
>>>> safe mode.
>>>>
>>>> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
>>>> devices when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or
>>>> would not open correctly. For that matter good files put on at work
>>>> would end up with the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB
>>>> connections.
>>>>
>>>> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
>>>> that if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
>>>> using USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>>>>
>>>> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

R. McCarty

October 26th 06, 02:27 PM

Check two parameters of the USB hardware:
1.) Controller - Advanced (TAB) Bandwidth Used
2.) HUB - Power (TAB) Check total mA used (500 mA Max)

"Mark" > wrote in message
...
>
> "R. McCarty" > wrote in message
> ...
>> USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
>> transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
>> Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).
>
> Done
>>
>> Check your System Event log for errors:
>> Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
>>
>
> Clean
>> Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
>> If not updated recently, would be worth installing.
>>
>
> Done
>
>> I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
>> DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
>> & set it's value = 1
>> Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
>> Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
>> all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
>> 1.) USB
>> 2.) Storage Volumes
>> 3.) Disk Drives
>>
> Done.. No change... In safe mode it all work OK, but in normal mode the
> errors on ant files being moved across the USB system is unusable.. Where
> to from here ?
>>
>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Been there done that :-)
>>>
>>> Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager
>>> looks fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have also
>>> re applied SP2.
>>>
>>> Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every
>>> thing looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move
>>> them about via the USB ports.
>>>
>>> It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to
>>> be a driver some where and not just a faulty hub.
>>>
>>> Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
>>> "Rick Rogers" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>>
>>>> "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
>>>>> safe mode.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
>>>>> devices when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or
>>>>> would not open correctly. For that matter good files put on at work
>>>>> would end up with the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB
>>>>> connections.
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
>>>>> that if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
>>>>> using USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>>>>>
>>>>> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Mark

October 26th 06, 02:38 PM

Bandwith is 10% and 20% can not find Power tab ? The USB's are all
standard built into the MOB. This is not an external hub.

It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I look for ?

Frustrated :-(

"R. McCarty" > wrote in message
...
> Check two parameters of the USB hardware:
> 1.) Controller - Advanced (TAB) Bandwidth Used
> 2.) HUB - Power (TAB) Check total mA used (500 mA Max)
>
> "Mark" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> "R. McCarty" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
>>> transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
>>> Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).
>>
>> Done
>>>
>>> Check your System Event log for errors:
>>> Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]
>>>
>>
>> Clean
>>> Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
>>> If not updated recently, would be worth installing.
>>>
>>
>> Done
>>
>>> I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
>>> DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
>>> & set it's value = 1
>>> Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
>>> Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
>>> all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
>>> 1.) USB
>>> 2.) Storage Volumes
>>> 3.) Disk Drives
>>>
>> Done.. No change... In safe mode it all work OK, but in normal mode the
>> errors on ant files being moved across the USB system is unusable..
>> Where to from here ?
>>>
>>> "Mark" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Been there done that :-)
>>>>
>>>> Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager
>>>> looks fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have
>>>> also re applied SP2.
>>>>
>>>> Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every
>>>> thing looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move
>>>> them about via the USB ports.
>>>>
>>>> It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to
>>>> be a driver some where and not just a faulty hub.
>>>>
>>>> Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
>>>> "Rick Rogers" > wrote in message
>>>> ...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
>>>>>> safe mode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
>>>>>> devices when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or
>>>>>> would not open correctly. For that matter good files put on at work
>>>>>> would end up with the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via
>>>>>> USB connections.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
>>>>>> that if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or
>>>>>> retrieved using USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Dave B.

October 26th 06, 04:25 PM

Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and now
your posting from the 26th.
Welcome to the blocked sender list.

"Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
...
> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
> mode.
>
> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
> when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
> correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
> the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>
> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
> if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
> USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>
> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>
>
>

Ayush

October 26th 06, 06:20 PM

May be he did that because he wants his message at top...

--
> Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]

For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org

Replied To :
-------------------------------------------------------------

"Dave B." > wrote in message
...
: Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and now
: your posting from the 26th.
: Welcome to the blocked sender list.
:
: "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
: ...
: > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
: > mode.
: >
: > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
: > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
: > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
: > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
: >
: > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
: > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
: > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
: >
: > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
: >
: >
: >
:
:

Ayush

October 26th 06, 06:20 PM

Dave B.

October 26th 06, 07:12 PM

Very likely, that's why he was blocked.

"Ayush" <ayushmaan.j[aatt]gmail.com> wrote in message
...
> May be he did that because he wants his message at top...
>
> --
>> Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
>
> For any query, search > www.Google.com
> Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org
>
> Replied To :
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Dave B." > wrote in message
> ...
> : Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and
> now
> : your posting from the 26th.
> : Welcome to the blocked sender list.
> :
> : "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
> : ...
> : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
> safe
> : > mode.
> : >
> : > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
> devices
> : > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not
> open
> : > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
> with
> : > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
> : >
> : > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
> that
> : > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
> using
> : > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
> : >
> : > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
> : >
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>

John Wunderlich

October 26th 06, 08:55 PM

"Mark" > wrote in
:

> It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I
> look for ?
>

Since it works in safe mode and not normal mode, consider that there
may be a program running on your machine that somehow interferes with
the normal operation. Try running the "msconfig" application:
Start --> Run --> msconfig
Begin by going to the "startup" tab and disabling everything. Reboot
and if the USB is OK, then enable a few at a time (with a reboot
inbetween) until you find the problem application.

Good Luck,
John

Joe

October 26th 06, 09:13 PM

Dave B. wrote:
> Very likely, that's why he was blocked.
>
> "Ayush" <ayushmaan.j[aatt]gmail.com> wrote in message
> ...
>> May be he did that because he wants his message at top...
>>
>> --
>>> Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
>> For any query, search > www.Google.com
>> Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org
>>
>> Replied To :
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Dave B." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> : Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and
>> now
>> : your posting from the 26th.
>> : Welcome to the blocked sender list.
>> :
>> : "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
>> : ...
>> : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
>> safe
>> : > mode.
>> : >
>> : > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
>> devices
>> : > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not
>> open
>> : > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
>> with
>> : > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>> : >
>> : > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
>> that
>> : > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
>> using
>> : > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>> : >
>> : > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...

Or maybe he noticed his error and corrected it.

--
Joe =o)

Haggis

October 26th 06, 09:40 PM

"John Wunderlich" > wrote in message
. 254.210...
> "Mark" > wrote in
> :
>
> > It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I
> > look for ?
> >
>
> Since it works in safe mode and not normal mode, consider that there
> may be a program running on your machine that somehow interferes with
> the normal operation. Try running the "msconfig" application:
> Start --> Run --> msconfig
> Begin by going to the "startup" tab and disabling everything. Reboot
> and if the USB is OK, then enable a few at a time (with a reboot
> inbetween) until you find the problem application.
>
> Good Luck,
> John

have you reapplied your motherboard drivers (updated) ?

RJK

October 26th 06, 09:43 PM

I've casting an eye down through this thread, and a couple of things
occurred to me.

Any hardware additions or changes just prior to your problem ?
.....Pc type ? ...traditional type system box ? ...IDE / RAID ???
....80 core ribbons vs data corruption on 40 core when using ATA66mhz and
higher ?

....you mentioned "front and rear" USB ports, ...e.g. front ones connected to
a pin header on motherboard that could be shared with a USB socket at case
rear / near parallel port ?

If installed, have you tried removing motherboard chipset IDE Bus Master
drivers ? ...and using just the IDE drivers that XP finds in its' driver
database ?

regards, Richard

"Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
...
> At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
> mode.
>
> I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
> when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
> correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
> the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>
> A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
> if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
> USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>
> HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>
>
>

Yves Leclerc

October 26th 06, 09:46 PM

And if the chipset is based on a VIA version, you "may" need their USB filter
drivers.

On 26/10/2006 "Haggis" > wrote:
>
>"John Wunderlich" > wrote in message
. 254.210...
>> "Mark" > wrote in
>> :
>>
>> > It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I
>> > look for ?
>> >
>>
>> Since it works in safe mode and not normal mode, consider that there
>> may be a program running on your machine that somehow interferes with
>> the normal operation. Try running the "msconfig" application:
>> Start --> Run --> msconfig
>> Begin by going to the "startup" tab and disabling everything. Reboot
>> and if the USB is OK, then enable a few at a time (with a reboot
>> inbetween) until you find the problem application.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>> John
>
>have you reapplied your motherboard drivers (updated) ?
>
>

--
---

Y.

Mark

October 27th 06, 09:39 AM

And Jo Said;

"Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Dave B. wrote:
>> Very likely, that's why he was blocked.
>>
>> "Ayush" <ayushmaan.j[aatt]gmail.com> wrote in message
>> ...
>>> May be he did that because he wants his message at top...
>>>
>>> --
>>>> Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
>>> For any query, search > www.Google.com
>>> Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org
>>>
>>> Replied To :
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "Dave B." > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> : Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and
>>> now
>>> : your posting from the 26th.
>>> : Welcome to the blocked sender list.
>>> :
>>> : "Mark" <comp dad @hotmail.com.nz> wrote in message
>>> : ...
>>> : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only
>>> in safe
>>> : > mode.
>>> : >
>>> : > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
>>> devices
>>> : > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would
>>> not open
>>> : > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
>>> with
>>> : > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
>>> : >
>>> : > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
>>> that
>>> : > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
>>> using
>>> : > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
>>> : >
>>> : > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
>
> Or maybe he noticed his error and corrected it.
>
> --
> Joe =o)

Thanks... With all the re patching and updates including the BIOS, I guess
I did not notice, and then corrected as soon as I was made aware.

Not intentional and still have problems.

Mark

Mark

October 27th 06, 09:58 AM

1: Giga-byte MOB K8NS Ultra 939
2: Updated drivers applied
3: msconfig run and disabled everything and re boot

STILL Corrupting

4: Re boot in safe mode with every thing disabled and it works!!!
5: So in safe mode regardless of services etc it works.

Fired up an old working VM (clean XP SP1) and same problem ???

Now I am confused....

It this a hardware problem ie. Faulty MOB ?
"Yves Leclerc" > wrote in message
...
> And if the chipset is based on a VIA version, you "may" need their USB
> filter
> drivers.
>
>
>
> On 26/10/2006 "Haggis" > wrote:
>>
>>"John Wunderlich" > wrote in message
. 254.210...
>>> "Mark" > wrote in
>>> :
>>>
>>> > It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I
>>> > look for ?
>>> >
>>>
>>> Since it works in safe mode and not normal mode, consider that there
>>> may be a program running on your machine that somehow interferes with
>>> the normal operation. Try running the "msconfig" application:
>>> Start --> Run --> msconfig
>>> Begin by going to the "startup" tab and disabling everything. Reboot
>>> and if the USB is OK, then enable a few at a time (with a reboot
>>> inbetween) until you find the problem application.
>>>
>>> Good Luck,
>>> John
>>
>>have you reapplied your motherboard drivers (updated) ?
>>
>>
>
> --
> ---
>
> Y.
>

Nospam

October 27th 06, 10:03 AM

Mark,

Curious....what USB type is being used at home compared to work (i.e. USB
1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and what USB type periphial devices and cables are being
used?

Nospam

Mark

October 27th 06, 10:44 AM

At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
mode.

I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with the
problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.

A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that if
I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using USB
devices no longer get corrupted.

HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...

Mark

October 27th 06, 04:00 PM

"Nospam" > wrote in message
...
> Mark,
>
> Curious....what USB type is being used at home compared to work (i.e. USB
> 1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and what USB type periphial devices and cables are being
> used?
>
> Nospam

1.1 and 2.0 however it was all working and then my MOB failed and I got a
replacement under warranty :-) However it was not untill reciently when I
was trying to transfer some larger files that I saw the problem. I am
using flash drives / various types and have two external USB HD's where the
problem also appears.

I am starting to believe that it is a USB driver problem, as it is OK in
Safe mode ???

I used MS config to disable everything and it still failed yet when I went
to safe mode with every thing still disabled it works ?

As a further test I set up my Brother DCP 110C which happens to have a
card reader in it and I put in an XD card and guess what... I could
transfer the test file and it all works ? The only thing I noticed was that
it was much slower going to the Brother and the XD card 5-4 min for a
80meg file... I then transfered the file from the Brother to my flash disk
also takes 5-4 min and it arrived in good condition. I then tried
transfering the file from my HD to the flash disk 60sec and YEP a corrupted
file....

So is this a driver problem or Hardware ?

Joe

October 27th 06, 04:33 PM

Mark wrote:
> "Nospam" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Mark,
>>
>> Curious....what USB type is being used at home compared to work (i.e. USB
>> 1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and what USB type periphial devices and cables are being
>> used?
>>
>> Nospam
>
> 1.1 and 2.0 however it was all working and then my MOB failed and I got a
> replacement under warranty :-) However it was not untill reciently when I
> was trying to transfer some larger files that I saw the problem. I am
> using flash drives / various types and have two external USB HD's where the
> problem also appears.
>
> I am starting to believe that it is a USB driver problem, as it is OK in
> Safe mode ???
>
> I used MS config to disable everything and it still failed yet when I went
> to safe mode with every thing still disabled it works ?
>
> As a further test I set up my Brother DCP 110C which happens to have a
> card reader in it and I put in an XD card and guess what... I could
> transfer the test file and it all works ? The only thing I noticed was that
> it was much slower going to the Brother and the XD card 5-4 min for a
> 80meg file... I then transfered the file from the Brother to my flash disk
> also takes 5-4 min and it arrived in good condition. I then tried
> transfering the file from my HD to the flash disk 60sec and YEP a corrupted
> file....
>
> So is this a driver problem or Hardware ?

Or maybe a BIOS setting related to USB, or interrupts.. Changing the
mobo could have reset one of those.

--
Joe =o)

Mark

October 28th 06, 12:27 AM

Joe gave the clue;
"Joe" > wrote in message
...
> Mark wrote:
>> "Nospam" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> Curious....what USB type is being used at home compared to work (i.e.
>>> USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and what USB type periphial devices and cables are
>>> being used?
>>>
>>> Nospam
>>
>> 1.1 and 2.0 however it was all working and then my MOB failed and I got a
>> replacement under warranty :-) However it was not untill reciently when
>> I was trying to transfer some larger files that I saw the problem. I am
>> using flash drives / various types and have two external USB HD's where
>> the problem also appears.
>>
>> I am starting to believe that it is a USB driver problem, as it is OK in
>> Safe mode ???
>>
>> I used MS config to disable everything and it still failed yet when I
>> went to safe mode with every thing still disabled it works ?
>>
>> As a further test I set up my Brother DCP 110C which happens to have a
>> card reader in it and I put in an XD card and guess what... I could
>> transfer the test file and it all works ? The only thing I noticed was
>> that it was much slower going to the Brother and the XD card 5-4 min
>> for a 80meg file... I then transfered the file from the Brother to my
>> flash disk also takes 5-4 min and it arrived in good condition. I then
>> tried transfering the file from my HD to the flash disk 60sec and YEP a
>> corrupted file....
>>
>> So is this a driver problem or Hardware ?
>
> Or maybe a BIOS setting related to USB, or interrupts.. Changing the mobo
> could have reset one of those.
>
> --
> Joe =o)

Went into the Bios and changed it from the higest setting of V1.1 + V2.0
to just V1.1 now my system keeps telling me that I have a high speed
device that can perform faster if I plug it into a Hi-Speed USB 2 port.

BUT it works and I am no longer corrupting files, what ever the size...

Question remains... Is this a driver problem of a hardware problem ?

Bob I

October 30th 06, 05:06 PM

Mark wrote:

> Joe gave the clue;
> "Joe" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Mark wrote:
>>
>>>"Nospam" > wrote in message
...
>>>
>>>>Mark,
>>>>
>>>>Curious....what USB type is being used at home compared to work (i.e.
>>>>USB 1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and what USB type periphial devices and cables are
>>>>being used?
>>>>
>>>>Nospam
>>>
>>>1.1 and 2.0 however it was all working and then my MOB failed and I got a
>>>replacement under warranty :-) However it was not untill reciently when
>>>I was trying to transfer some larger files that I saw the problem. I am
>>>using flash drives / various types and have two external USB HD's where
>>>the problem also appears.
>>>
>>>I am starting to believe that it is a USB driver problem, as it is OK in
>>>Safe mode ???
>>>
>>>I used MS config to disable everything and it still failed yet when I
>>>went to safe mode with every thing still disabled it works ?
>>>
>>>As a further test I set up my Brother DCP 110C which happens to have a
>>>card reader in it and I put in an XD card and guess what... I could
>>>transfer the test file and it all works ? The only thing I noticed was
>>>that it was much slower going to the Brother and the XD card 5-4 min
>>>for a 80meg file... I then transfered the file from the Brother to my
>>>flash disk also takes 5-4 min and it arrived in good condition. I then
>>>tried transfering the file from my HD to the flash disk 60sec and YEP a
>>>corrupted file....
>>>
>>>So is this a driver problem or Hardware ?
>>
>>Or maybe a BIOS setting related to USB, or interrupts.. Changing the mobo
>>could have reset one of those.
>>
>>--
>>Joe =o)
>
>
> Went into the Bios and changed it from the higest setting of V1.1 + V2.0
> to just V1.1 now my system keeps telling me that I have a high speed
> device that can perform faster if I plug it into a Hi-Speed USB 2 port.
>
> BUT it works and I am no longer corrupting files, what ever the size...
>
> Question remains... Is this a driver problem of a hardware problem ?
>
>

Is there a BIOS update from the vendor available? If so, it may address
the issue.