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paul1961
October 28th 06, 11:50 AM
I have a dell Dimension2350 2.8 ghz about 3 1/2 years old.
After a bit of flickering my screen suddenly reduced in width by about half.
ie. a quarter missing from either side which left a concave shaped(wider at
the top and bottom of the screen)with both left and right borders Black!
Everything else works as normal. Is it my graphics card?
If so, I have a Dimension3000(16 months old) at work in which i added a
matrox dual Graphics card a while back. So am I right in thinking that i
should be able to remove my original intel card fro the 3000 and put that
into the faulty 2350 with no ill effects to my 3000 mahcine?

Galen
October 28th 06, 12:35 PM
In ,
paul1961 had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> I have a dell Dimension2350 2.8 ghz about 3 1/2 years old.
> After a bit of flickering my screen suddenly reduced in width by
> about half. ie. a quarter missing from either side which left a
> concave shaped(wider at the top and bottom of the screen)with both
> left and right borders Black! Everything else works as normal. Is it
> my graphics card?
> If so, I have a Dimension3000(16 months old) at work in which i added
> a matrox dual Graphics card a while back. So am I right in thinking
> that i should be able to remove my original intel card fro the 3000
> and put that into the faulty 2350 with no ill effects to my 3000
> mahcine?

It is very unlikely to be your card in this case. It is very likely the
monitor itself. Check the on-screen display buttons on the front of the
monitor first and if those don't help try another monitor and if your old
one is still covered under warranty then return it for a replacement.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/ http://kgiii.info/

"Chance has put in our way a most singular and whimsical problem, and
its solution is its own reward." - Sherlock Holmes

paul1961
October 28th 06, 01:13 PM
The buttons on the monitor only seem to be for brightness and contrast control.
I can substitute another monitor for this one on Monday and will do so.
The only question I have is when going into Monitor properties and graphics
card properties both are said to be working correctly. Is that par for the
course?
"Galen" wrote:

> In ,
> paul1961 had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
> > I have a dell Dimension2350 2.8 ghz about 3 1/2 years old.
> > After a bit of flickering my screen suddenly reduced in width by
> > about half. ie. a quarter missing from either side which left a
> > concave shaped(wider at the top and bottom of the screen)with both
> > left and right borders Black! Everything else works as normal. Is it
> > my graphics card?
> > If so, I have a Dimension3000(16 months old) at work in which i added
> > a matrox dual Graphics card a while back. So am I right in thinking
> > that i should be able to remove my original intel card fro the 3000
> > and put that into the faulty 2350 with no ill effects to my 3000
> > mahcine?
>
> It is very unlikely to be your card in this case. It is very likely the
> monitor itself. Check the on-screen display buttons on the front of the
> monitor first and if those don't help try another monitor and if your old
> one is still covered under warranty then return it for a replacement.
>
> --
> Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
> http://dts-l.org/ http://kgiii.info/
>
> "Chance has put in our way a most singular and whimsical problem, and
> its solution is its own reward." - Sherlock Holmes
>
>
>

Richard Urban
October 28th 06, 04:22 PM
"paul1961" > wrote in message
...
> The buttons on the monitor only seem to be for brightness and contrast
> control.
> I can substitute another monitor for this one on Monday and will do so.
> The only question I have is when going into Monitor properties and
> graphics
> card properties both are said to be working correctly. Is that par for the
> course?


You were told in another news group that what you see is only the condition
of the drivers/software. It has nothing to do with physically defective
hardware.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

Michael W. Ryder
October 28th 06, 10:58 PM
Richard Urban wrote:
> "paul1961" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The buttons on the monitor only seem to be for brightness and contrast
>> control.
>> I can substitute another monitor for this one on Monday and will do so.
>> The only question I have is when going into Monitor properties and
>> graphics
>> card properties both are said to be working correctly. Is that par for the
>> course?
>
>
> You were told in another news group that what you see is only the condition
> of the drivers/software. It has nothing to do with physically defective
> hardware.
>

I take it you have never seen a CRT die? Quite often when they start
failing the display shrinks until it gets too small to use. I have seen
them shrink down to a line a couple of pixels in width. As some of
those were being used as glass ttys there was no way any software or
drivers were involved.

Galen
October 28th 06, 11:04 PM
In ,
Richard Urban had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> "paul1961" > wrote in message
> ...
>> The buttons on the monitor only seem to be for brightness and
>> contrast control.
>> I can substitute another monitor for this one on Monday and will do
>> so. The only question I have is when going into Monitor properties
>> and graphics
>> card properties both are said to be working correctly. Is that par
>> for the course?
>
>
> You were told in another news group that what you see is only the
> condition of the drivers/software. It has nothing to do with
> physically defective hardware.

That and keep poking at the front and you'll probably find other options to
adjust the screen size eventually. If not then, well, it's broken and
drivers and newsgroups won't get you squared away.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)
http://dts-l.org/ http://kgiii.info/

"Chance has put in our way a most singular and whimsical problem, and
its solution is its own reward." - Sherlock Holmes

Richard Urban
October 30th 06, 02:38 AM
A CRT that has horizontal collapse is not, in any way, going to alter the
fact that the device manager will show everything as OK, both the monitor
and display adapter. All the device manager shows is the condition of the
drivers/software associated with the monitor and display adapter device. Not
the physical condition of the monitor.



--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Michael W. Ryder" > wrote in message
...
> Richard Urban wrote:
>> "paul1961" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> The buttons on the monitor only seem to be for brightness and contrast
>>> control.
>>> I can substitute another monitor for this one on Monday and will do so.
>>> The only question I have is when going into Monitor properties and
>>> graphics
>>> card properties both are said to be working correctly. Is that par for
>>> the
>>> course?
>>
>>
>> You were told in another news group that what you see is only the
>> condition of the drivers/software. It has nothing to do with physically
>> defective hardware.
>>
>
> I take it you have never seen a CRT die? Quite often when they start
> failing the display shrinks until it gets too small to use. I have seen
> them shrink down to a line a couple of pixels in width. As some of those
> were being used as glass ttys there was no way any software or drivers
> were involved.

Michael W. Ryder
October 30th 06, 03:04 AM
Richard Urban wrote:
> A CRT that has horizontal collapse is not, in any way, going to alter the
> fact that the device manager will show everything as OK, both the monitor
> and display adapter. All the device manager shows is the condition of the
> drivers/software associated with the monitor and display adapter device. Not
> the physical condition of the monitor.
>
>
>
Maybe I misunderstood your post. The way it sounds is that the problem
was in the drivers/software, not the hardware.

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