I tried to do a system restore, when I discovered that I.....

[Touch Base]

"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
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| All the old ones are purged.. but I dont think a new one is made...
|
| do you have a confirmation for this?
|
| thanks
|

That's why I said it's an empirical fact.

Have you ever actually done it?

I have done it myself personally and yes it does. I don't use system restore
as a recovery tool but I leave it turned on anyway. I tested it again by
turning it off and then back on again and a System Checkpoint was created
immediately. I belive you may be partly right that a restore point is not
necessarily created immediatley, but I have seen it happen and I have
re-created the scenario again and a System Checkpoint was created.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm
"When you first enable System Restore, this creates an initial restore
point."

The above may only be relevent to a new install because I cannot find any
information on the MS sites that directly says when you turn restore back on
again a restore point is immediaitely created.

All I can find is;

Q. How can I remove permanently infected files in the System Restore data
archive and restore to uncompromised restore points?

A. ......."Disabling System Restore will remove all restore points. Enabling
System Restore will resume the creation of new restore points as schedule
and events require.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/en-us/management/sysrestore_faq.mspx#EJJAE

YMMV

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"Witch" > wrote in message
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| Thanx Touchbase, you are right about two things, I do need to get out more
&
| you helped a lot with my problem with comp thankyou very much. My six year
| old knows more than me.
| --
| Thankyou.
|
|

Pleased to help.

Did you fix up both your problems - system restore and desk top icons?


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[Witch]

couldnt move my desktop items where I wanted them. They just kept bouncing
back to where they were, so I thought that maybe doing a system restore would
help. But I couldnt even do that, I think I chose about 10 different
highlighted dates but it wouldnt restore to any of them. Im still learning
about how to do stuff, so I would really like it if someone could help or
tell me what Im doing wrong.
--
Thankyou.

[Touch Base]

"Witch" > wrote in message
...
| couldnt move my desktop items where I wanted them. They just kept bouncing
| back to where they were, so I thought that maybe doing a system restore
would
| help. But I couldnt even do that, I think I chose about 10 different
| highlighted dates but it wouldnt restore to any of them. Im still learning
| about how to do stuff, so I would really like it if someone could help or
| tell me what Im doing wrong.
| --
| Thankyou.


================================================== ===============

Desk Top Icons:
Simply right-click your desktop, click Arrange Icons By, and then click
Align to Grid. Windows XP does not immediately move your icons. However, the
next time you drag an icon, Windows XP will automatically place it into an
orderly row.

================================================== ===============
System Restore:
The majority of the time this is caused by a corrupt restore point.
Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
restore points, and creates one new one.

Try running System Restore from Safe Mode.
Restart your computer, and then press F8 during the initial startup to
start your computer in Safe Mode.

Log on to your computer with an administrator account or with an account
that has administrator credentials.

In Safe Mode type or paste the following command in the Start - Run box
then press Enter.

%systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe

There are also other possibilities that can cause this to happen. The
following pages have some troubleshooting steps to take.

Troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to restore:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html

How to Disable and Enable System Restore
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/disablesr.html


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[MicroFox]

>Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
>restore points, and creates one new one

this is incorrect. no new one is created automatically..

its better first make a restore point, then to use the disk cleaning
utility and select clear all restore points but the last


"Touch Base" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Witch" > wrote in message
> ...
> | couldnt move my desktop items where I wanted them. They just kept
> bouncing
> | back to where they were, so I thought that maybe doing a system restore
> would
> | help. But I couldnt even do that, I think I chose about 10 different
> | highlighted dates but it wouldnt restore to any of them. Im still
> learning
> | about how to do stuff, so I would really like it if someone could help
> or
> | tell me what Im doing wrong.
> | --
> | Thankyou.
>
>
> ================================================== ===============
>
> Desk Top Icons:
> Simply right-click your desktop, click Arrange Icons By, and then click
> Align to Grid. Windows XP does not immediately move your icons. However,
> the
> next time you drag an icon, Windows XP will automatically place it into an
> orderly row.
>
> ================================================== ===============
> System Restore:
> The majority of the time this is caused by a corrupt restore point.
> Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
> restore points, and creates one new one.
>
> Try running System Restore from Safe Mode.
> Restart your computer, and then press F8 during the initial startup to
> start your computer in Safe Mode.
>
> Log on to your computer with an administrator account or with an account
> that has administrator credentials.
>
> In Safe Mode type or paste the following command in the Start - Run box
> then press Enter.
>
> %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
>
> There are also other possibilities that can cause this to happen. The
> following pages have some troubleshooting steps to take.
>
> Troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to restore:
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html
>
> How to Disable and Enable System Restore
> http://bertk.mvps.org/html/disablesr.html
>
>
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> Touch Base
> Post back here on the result- good or bad
>
>
>

[Witch]

How do you make a restore point? What are the steps I need to take?
--
Thankyou.


"MicroFox" wrote:

> >Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
> >restore points, and creates one new one
>
> this is incorrect. no new one is created automatically..
>
> its better first make a restore point, then to use the disk cleaning
> utility and select clear all restore points but the last
>
>
> "Touch Base" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Witch" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > | couldnt move my desktop items where I wanted them. They just kept
> > bouncing
> > | back to where they were, so I thought that maybe doing a system restore
> > would
> > | help. But I couldnt even do that, I think I chose about 10 different
> > | highlighted dates but it wouldnt restore to any of them. Im still
> > learning
> > | about how to do stuff, so I would really like it if someone could help
> > or
> > | tell me what Im doing wrong.
> > | --
> > | Thankyou.
> >
> >
> > ================================================== ===============
> >
> > Desk Top Icons:
> > Simply right-click your desktop, click Arrange Icons By, and then click
> > Align to Grid. Windows XP does not immediately move your icons. However,
> > the
> > next time you drag an icon, Windows XP will automatically place it into an
> > orderly row.
> >
> > ================================================== ===============
> > System Restore:
> > The majority of the time this is caused by a corrupt restore point.
> > Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
> > restore points, and creates one new one.
> >
> > Try running System Restore from Safe Mode.
> > Restart your computer, and then press F8 during the initial startup to
> > start your computer in Safe Mode.
> >
> > Log on to your computer with an administrator account or with an account
> > that has administrator credentials.
> >
> > In Safe Mode type or paste the following command in the Start - Run box
> > then press Enter.
> >
> > %systemroot%\system32\restore\rstrui.exe
> >
> > There are also other possibilities that can cause this to happen. The
> > following pages have some troubleshooting steps to take.
> >
> > Troubleshooting steps to take when System Restore fails to restore:
> > http://bertk.mvps.org/html/srfail.html
> >
> > How to Disable and Enable System Restore
> > http://bertk.mvps.org/html/disablesr.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > Touch Base
> > Post back here on the result- good or bad
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Touch Base]

"MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
...
| >Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
| >restore points, and creates one new one
|
| this is incorrect. no new one is created automatically..
|
| its better first make a restore point, then to use the disk cleaning
| utility and select clear all restore points but the last
|
|

You need to check your facts MicroFox. By turning off System Restore all
restore points are purged. When you then turn System Rerstore on again a new
restore point is made. It's an empircal fact. Have you ever actually done
it?

[Touch Base]

"Witch" > wrote in message
...
| How do you make a restore point? What are the steps I need to take?
| --

================================================== ==============
"Witch" you really need to get out more (joke)..

it is so easy to find most of the answers you are looking for either in the
newsgroup archives or by simply googling for the information you need.

For example..entering this; how to make a restore point

into Google brings up the reference below...too easy really !


http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/systemrestore.mspx
Scroll down to section: Create a Restore Point

[Witch]

Thanx Touchbase, you are right about two things, I do need to get out more &
you helped a lot with my problem with comp thankyou very much. My six year
old knows more than me.
--
Thankyou.


"Touch Base" wrote:

>
> "Witch" > wrote in message
> ...
> | How do you make a restore point? What are the steps I need to take?
> | --
>
> ================================================== ==============
> "Witch" you really need to get out more (joke)..
>
> it is so easy to find most of the answers you are looking for either in the
> newsgroup archives or by simply googling for the information you need.
>
> For example..entering this; how to make a restore point
>
> into Google brings up the reference below...too easy really !
>
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/systemrestore.mspx
> Scroll down to section: Create a Restore Point
>
>
>

[MicroFox]

All the old ones are purged.. but I dont think a new one is made...

do you have a confirmation for this?

thanks

"Touch Base" > wrote in message
...
>
> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
> ...
> | >Turning System Restore off then on again will purges all existing
> | >restore points, and creates one new one
> |
> | this is incorrect. no new one is created automatically..
> |
> | its better first make a restore point, then to use the disk cleaning
> | utility and select clear all restore points but the last
> |
> |
>
> You need to check your facts MicroFox. By turning off System Restore all
> restore points are purged. When you then turn System Rerstore on again a
> new
> restore point is made. It's an empircal fact. Have you ever actually done
> it?
>
>
>
>

[Bert Kinney]

Hi,

How to create a manual restore point in System Restore:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/createrp.html

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http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

"Witch" wrote
> How do you make a restore point? What are the steps I need to take?
> --
> Thankyou.

[MicroFox]

thank you for that info



"Touch Base" > wrote in message
...
>
> "MicroFox" <-> wrote in message
> ...
> | All the old ones are purged.. but I dont think a new one is made...
> |
> | do you have a confirmation for this?
> |
> | thanks
> |
>
> That's why I said it's an empirical fact.
>
> Have you ever actually done it?
>
> I have done it myself personally and yes it does. I don't use system
> restore
> as a recovery tool but I leave it turned on anyway. I tested it again by
> turning it off and then back on again and a System Checkpoint was created
> immediately. I belive you may be partly right that a restore point is not
> necessarily created immediatley, but I have seen it happen and I have
> re-created the scenario again and a System Checkpoint was created.
>
> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_restore.htm
> "When you first enable System Restore, this creates an initial restore
> point."
>
> The above may only be relevent to a new install because I cannot find any
> information on the MS sites that directly says when you turn restore back
> on
> again a restore point is immediaitely created.
>
> All I can find is;
>
> Q. How can I remove permanently infected files in the System Restore data
> archive and restore to uncompromised restore points?
>
> A. ......."Disabling System Restore will remove all restore points.
> Enabling
> System Restore will resume the creation of new restore points as schedule
> and events require.
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/en-us/management/sysrestore_faq.mspx#EJJAE
>
> YMMV
>
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> Touch Base
> Post back here on the result- good or bad
>
>