Upgrading xp home to xp pro

[Dave Reynolds]

With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb 2.0
compact flash reader. I tried to install the software
that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work on all
other computers I use so the cards are fine.

Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to install
due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this runs my
dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the latest
version and still unable to install xp pro because of the
same conflict. I'm still not sure that after performing
the installation I'll be able to read my compact flash
card. The ports work because my printer works (hp 2110)
and I can download directly from my camera (Canon D10).
The camera download is painfully slow taking many hours
with the large files.

Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP usually
wastes time without solving anything.

dave

[Walter Clayton]

You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on my laptop with USB2.

Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure you download the full 130M
and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web based SP1 install.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb 2.0
> compact flash reader. I tried to install the software
> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work on all
> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>
> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to install
> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this runs my
> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the latest
> version and still unable to install xp pro because of the
> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after performing
> the installation I'll be able to read my compact flash
> card. The ports work because my printer works (hp 2110)
> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon D10).
> The camera download is painfully slow taking many hours
> with the large files.
>
> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP usually
> wastes time without solving anything.
>
> dave

[John]

Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured stripped
version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get a
full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
future!.
>-----Original Message-----
>You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on my
laptop with USB2.
>
>Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure you
download the full 130M
>and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web based
SP1 install.
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in message
...
>> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb
2.0
>> compact flash reader. I tried to install the software
>> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work on
all
>> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>>
>> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to
install
>> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this
runs my
>> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the latest
>> version and still unable to install xp pro because of
the
>> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
performing
>> the installation I'll be able to read my compact flash
>> card. The ports work because my printer works (hp
2110)
>> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon D10).
>> The camera download is painfully slow taking many hours
>> with the large files.
>>
>> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP usually
>> wastes time without solving anything.
>>
>> dave
>
>.
>

[Walter Clayton]

Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other machines.

Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so superior? Exactly what
does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that is a must have?

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"John" > wrote in message
...
> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured stripped
> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get a
> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
> future!.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on my
> laptop with USB2.
> >
> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure you
> download the full 130M
> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web based
> SP1 install.
> >
> >--
> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> insufficiently advanced.
> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> ault.asp
> >
> >
> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb
> 2.0
> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the software
> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work on
> all
> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
> >>
> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to
> install
> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this
> runs my
> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the latest
> >> version and still unable to install xp pro because of
> the
> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
> performing
> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact flash
> >> card. The ports work because my printer works (hp
> 2110)
> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon D10).
> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many hours
> >> with the large files.
> >>
> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP usually
> >> wastes time without solving anything.
> >>
> >> dave
> >
> >.
> >

[John]

For starters a complete backup utility. Home edition
includes one on the disk, but since ASR is not supported
with Windows XP Home edition, it doesn't work. A feature
that is important for Home users especially if they have
a harddrive failure. Also a basic IIs webserver would
have been nice like Windows 98 had for home users. Also
alot of gamers these days talk about owning a dual
processsor gaming computer. Windows XP Home only supports
one processor, unlike any Linux distibution or Mac OSX
for that matter. They support more than two processors.
So if a gamer wants to build a multi-processor system,
than they need Pro. Also you see alot of college
Universities telling their students to get Pro vs Home
because they will be able to log onto a domain at school.
And will still have all the benefits the Home edition
gives them when they are at home!. A feature not in the
Home edition. So if they live at home while going to
college they will benefit by it. So all and all that is
why I think Windows XP Pro is a more complete
edition.
>-----Original Message-----
>Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
machines.
>
>Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
superior? Exactly what
>does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that is
a must have?
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"John" > wrote in message
...
>> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured stripped
>> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get a
>> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
>> future!.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on my
>> laptop with USB2.
>> >
>> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure you
>> download the full 130M
>> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
based
>> SP1 install.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> insufficiently advanced.
>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> ault.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb
>> 2.0
>> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
software
>> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work
on
>> all
>> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>> >>
>> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to
>> install
>> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this
>> runs my
>> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
latest
>> >> version and still unable to install xp pro because
of
>> the
>> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
>> performing
>> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
flash
>> >> card. The ports work because my printer works (hp
>> 2110)
>> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
D10).
>> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
hours
>> >> with the large files.
>> >>
>> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
usually
>> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>> >>
>> >> dave
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>

[John]

One more thing. I have always and still do like the model
Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
$129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer with
Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and feature
rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home Editions!.
For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>-----Original Message-----
>Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
machines.
>
>Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
superior? Exactly what
>does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that is
a must have?
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"John" > wrote in message
...
>> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured stripped
>> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get a
>> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
>> future!.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on my
>> laptop with USB2.
>> >
>> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure you
>> download the full 130M
>> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
based
>> SP1 install.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> insufficiently advanced.
>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> ault.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb
>> 2.0
>> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
software
>> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work
on
>> all
>> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>> >>
>> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to
>> install
>> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this
>> runs my
>> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
latest
>> >> version and still unable to install xp pro because
of
>> the
>> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
>> performing
>> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
flash
>> >> card. The ports work because my printer works (hp
>> 2110)
>> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
D10).
>> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
hours
>> >> with the large files.
>> >>
>> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
usually
>> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>> >>
>> >> dave
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>

[Walter Clayton]

Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-)
By the way, do read the question carefully.

1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is also included as a
result.

2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server. Ask 10 people on the
street why the need to run a server for that matter.

3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of games that leverage SMP?
Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is overrated and highly
misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss. Explain how SMP makes
Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single threaded application run
faster.

4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can function on a domain in
work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE on a domain to
trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse to allow a 3rd party to
push policies on my machine. Why do you really think it necessary to join a
dorm domain?

5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still haven't addressed why
Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of issues that you do need to
learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.

Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to put it in context. And
to put a couple of things in context.

1) Why does your mother need EFS?
2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what makes SMP so
"superior" in a single user environment when over 99% of the software on the
market doesn't leverage SMP?
3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your personal machine just
so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you know that you can do
these things on a domain with a workstation?
5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then as well what Apache
is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is possible?

Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"John" > wrote in message
...
> One more thing. I have always and still do like the model
> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
> MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer with
> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and feature
> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home Editions!.
> For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
> machines.
> >
> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
> superior? Exactly what
> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that is
> a must have?
> >
> >--
> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> insufficiently advanced.
> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> ault.asp
> >
> >
> >"John" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured stripped
> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get a
> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
> >> future!.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on my
> >> laptop with USB2.
> >> >
> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure you
> >> download the full 130M
> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
> based
> >> SP1 install.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> ault.asp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my usb
> >> 2.0
> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
> software
> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards work
> on
> >> all
> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable to
> >> install
> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think this
> >> runs my
> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
> latest
> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro because
> of
> >> the
> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
> >> performing
> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
> flash
> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works (hp
> >> 2110)
> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
> D10).
> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
> hours
> >> >> with the large files.
> >> >>
> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
> usually
> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
> >> >>
> >> >> dave
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Jim Macklin]

Microsoft doesn't build computers or control the hardware
market. Apple is a one source package, they sell hardware
and provide the software.

HP and others give inkjet printers away at below cost
because the profit is in the ink. MS writes software (and
sells some minor hardware) but their profit comes from
software. The cost of making OSX for Apple is not as high
because it only works with and is supported on a limited
number of platforms. Windows works on an unlimited number
of computer configurations with CPU, motherboards, video
cards, sound cards, hard drives, optical drives being mixed,
matched and misused.

Apple just says OSX only works on certain computers they
build, take it our way.

Nothing wrong with that, but the IBM/Intel/MS business model
is what created the mass consumer market. That mass market
has reduced costs per unit, increased performance and served
the consumer pretty well.


"John" > wrote in message
...
| One more thing. I have always and still do like the model
| Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
| the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
| operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
| No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
| Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
| Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
| get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
| features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
| $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
| upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
| and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
| broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
| to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
| OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
| edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
| wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
| MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
| to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer with
| Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and feature
| rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home Editions!.
| For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
| Computers are a hobby of mine!.
|SNIP

[John]

Then why does ASR not work properly with Windows XP Home
Edition after it is installed NT backup from the retail
cd. Since Microsoft even says that ASR is not supported
in the Home Edition. Please read this link from
WinSupersite

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.as
p
>-----Original Message-----
>Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-)
>By the way, do read the question carefully.
>
>1) NTBack can be installed from a aspretail CD. ASR is
also included as a
>result.
>
>2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server.
Ask 10 people on the
>street why the need to run a server for that matter.
>
>3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of games
that leverage SMP?
>Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
overrated and highly
>misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
Explain how SMP makes
>Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
threaded application run
>faster.
>
>4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
function on a domain in
>work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE
on a domain to
>trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse to
allow a 3rd party to
>push policies on my machine. Why do you really think it
necessary to join a
>dorm domain?
>
>5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
haven't addressed why
>Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of issues
that you do need to
>learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
>
>Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to put
it in context. And
>to put a couple of things in context.
>
>1) Why does your mother need EFS?
>2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what
makes SMP so
>"superior" in a single user environment when over 99% of
the software on the
>market doesn't leverage SMP?
>3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
>4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
personal machine just
>so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you
know that you can do
>these things on a domain with a workstation?
>5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then as
well what Apache
>is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
>6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
possible?
>
>Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"John" > wrote in message
...
>> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
model
>> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
>> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
>> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
>> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
>> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
>> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
>> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
>> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
>> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
>> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
>> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
>> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
>> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
>> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
>> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
>> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
>> MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
>> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer
with
>> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
feature
>> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
Editions!.
>> For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
>> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
>> machines.
>> >
>> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
>> superior? Exactly what
>> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that
is
>> a must have?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> insufficiently advanced.
>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> ault.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >"John" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
stripped
>> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get
a
>> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
>> >> future!.
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on
my
>> >> laptop with USB2.
>> >> >
>> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure
you
>> >> download the full 130M
>> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
>> based
>> >> SP1 install.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> ault.asp
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my
usb
>> >> 2.0
>> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
>> software
>> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
work
>> on
>> >> all
>> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable
to
>> >> install
>> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
this
>> >> runs my
>> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
>> latest
>> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
because
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
>> >> performing
>> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
>> flash
>> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works
(hp
>> >> 2110)
>> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
>> D10).
>> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
>> hours
>> >> >> with the large files.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
>> usually
>> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> dave
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>

[Walter Clayton]

For personal and professionals reasons, I don't read Paul T. nor Steve G.
for that matter. Let's just say that they both think quite a bit more of
themselves than is warranted. Or to put it another way, have you actually
tried it or are you relying on the word of some one that is border line
clueless but rather elequoant in their ignorance?

But I also noticed you didn't address the other issues. Do you have the
answers to the other questions I asked? Or again, is it a case of reading
some else's opinion and taking it as gospel without proof?

BTW: One additional task for you. Define ASR and why it's critical.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"John" > wrote in message
...
> Then why does ASR not work properly with Windows XP Home
> Edition after it is installed NT backup from the retail
> cd. Since Microsoft even says that ASR is not supported
> in the Home Edition. Please read this link from
> WinSupersite
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/windowsxp_home_pro.as
> p
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-)
> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
> >
> >1) NTBack can be installed from a aspretail CD. ASR is
> also included as a
> >result.
> >
> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server.
> Ask 10 people on the
> >street why the need to run a server for that matter.
> >
> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of games
> that leverage SMP?
> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
> overrated and highly
> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
> Explain how SMP makes
> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
> threaded application run
> >faster.
> >
> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
> function on a domain in
> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE
> on a domain to
> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse to
> allow a 3rd party to
> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really think it
> necessary to join a
> >dorm domain?
> >
> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
> haven't addressed why
> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of issues
> that you do need to
> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
> >
> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to put
> it in context. And
> >to put a couple of things in context.
> >
> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what
> makes SMP so
> >"superior" in a single user environment when over 99% of
> the software on the
> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
> personal machine just
> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you
> know that you can do
> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then as
> well what Apache
> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
> possible?
> >
> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
> >
> >--
> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> insufficiently advanced.
> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> ault.asp
> >
> >
> >"John" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
> model
> >> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
> >> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer
> with
> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
> feature
> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
> Editions!.
> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
> >> machines.
> >> >
> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
> >> superior? Exactly what
> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that
> is
> >> a must have?
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> ault.asp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"John" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
> stripped
> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get
> a
> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
> >> >> future!.
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on
> my
> >> >> laptop with USB2.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure
> you
> >> >> download the full 130M
> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
> >> based
> >> >> SP1 install.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> >> ault.asp
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
> message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my
> usb
> >> >> 2.0
> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
> >> software
> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
> work
> >> on
> >> >> all
> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable
> to
> >> >> install
> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
> this
> >> >> runs my
> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
> >> latest
> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
> because
> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
> >> >> performing
> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
> >> flash
> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works
> (hp
> >> >> 2110)
> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
> >> D10).
> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
> >> hours
> >> >> >> with the large files.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
> >> usually
> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> dave
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >.
> >

[John]

Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)

One of the hardest lessons to learn for many computer
users, myself included, is the importance of good
backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will be so
dependable that we won't have to worry about losing data,
but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of an eye
(or the electrical power). For that reason, one of the
first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
users should become familiar with is the Automated System
Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but that
goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from earlier
versions of Windows NT/2000.
One of the very first things that you should do with your
Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system. This
backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file, and a
Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large, and
the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the steps
to complete the process:
Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
Tools -> Backup.
When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
Advanced Mode.
On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom next
to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you for the
media to use for the backup file, after clicking Next.
If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
there, but you can also write this file to a hard drive.
This is the fastest method, but it also requires lots of
free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
After entering the destination for the backup file, click
Next again, and then Finish.
The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
important system files and settings to the backup file.
An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step can
take a considerable amount of time. After this step is
complete, you will be prompted for a blank, formatted
floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk, and
then the process is complete.
This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
program. At this point, you should be able to recover
your system and its settings to their current state, even
if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the hard
drive completely failed and had to be replaced). This
process does not backup other data or files (for
instance, Word documents that you have stored in a folder
on the hard drive).
If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice when
trying to follow the steps above that there is no Backup
Utility! So what should you do to protect your computer
system against problems? The next page shows the first
step that you will need to perform. Recoverability in
Windows XP Home
Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from yourself,
did not include the same Backup and Restore utility in
Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
Professional Edition. To help protect your system using
Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore Utility
to create what is called a "Restore Point." A Restore
Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer starts
and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP Home
computer is in such a condition right now, you should
follow these steps to create a new Restore Point. XP
automatically creates a Restore Point immediately after
installing Windows XP Home. I will often create one as
well as before each change to the system. For instance,
if I am about to install a new application, I would first
create a Restore Point, and name it "Before Application
X" so that if it turns out the new application causes me
problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
before.
To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP Home
Edition, click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
System Tools -> System Restore. When the System Restore
Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then click
Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of your
system so that you can restore to that point sometime in
the future.
Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point when any
of the following occurs:
An unsigned device driver is installed
A new application is installed (if the installation
program is compatible with System Restore
Windows Update is used to update your system
A Restore Point from earlier is restored
A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what Backup
Utility?!?
If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition,
you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility by
clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows XP
Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
originally planned to include the Backup Utility in the
Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition, they
removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from the
final version that you can buy today.
This may be a frustrating development for many!. Hidden
deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition CD
lies the actual installation program that you need to put
the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert the
XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of your
CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility
Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
It's that easy!
Now you can click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
start. One of the things that you may note is the
presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard. While
you can try to use this Wizard with the Home Edition of
XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work well
with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.






>-----Original Message-----
>Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-)
>By the way, do read the question carefully.
>
>1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is also
included as a
>result.
>
>2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server.
Ask 10 people on the
>street why the need to run a server for that matter.
>
>3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of games
that leverage SMP?
>Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
overrated and highly
>misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
Explain how SMP makes
>Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
threaded application run
>faster.
>
>4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
function on a domain in
>work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE
on a domain to
>trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse to
allow a 3rd party to
>push policies on my machine. Why do you really think it
necessary to join a
>dorm domain?
>
>5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
haven't addressed why
>Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of issues
that you do need to
>learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
>
>Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to put
it in context. And
>to put a couple of things in context.
>
>1) Why does your mother need EFS?
>2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what
makes SMP so
>"superior" in a single user environment when over 99% of
the software on the
>market doesn't leverage SMP?
>3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
>4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
personal machine just
>so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you
know that you can do
>these things on a domain with a workstation?
>5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then as
well what Apache
>is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
>6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
possible?
>
>Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"John" > wrote in message
...
>> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
model
>> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
>> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
>> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
>> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
>> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
>> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
>> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
>> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
>> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
>> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
>> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
>> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
>> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
>> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
>> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
>> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
>> MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
>> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer
with
>> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
feature
>> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
Editions!.
>> For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
>> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
>> machines.
>> >
>> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
>> superior? Exactly what
>> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that
is
>> a must have?
>> >
>> >--
>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> insufficiently advanced.
>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> ault.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >"John" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
stripped
>> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get
a
>> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
>> >> future!.
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on
my
>> >> laptop with USB2.
>> >> >
>> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure
you
>> >> download the full 130M
>> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
>> based
>> >> SP1 install.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> ault.asp
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my
usb
>> >> 2.0
>> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
>> software
>> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
work
>> on
>> >> all
>> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable
to
>> >> install
>> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
this
>> >> runs my
>> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
>> latest
>> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
because
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
>> >> performing
>> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
>> flash
>> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works
(hp
>> >> 2110)
>> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
>> D10).
>> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
>> hours
>> >> >> with the large files.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
>> usually
>> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> dave
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>

[Walter Clayton]

Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's see if you understand
what you quote.

I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How does ASR work?

BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"John" > wrote in message
...
> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
>
> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many computer
> users, myself included, is the importance of good
> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will be so
> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing data,
> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of an eye
> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one of the
> first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
> users should become familiar with is the Automated System
> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but that
> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from earlier
> versions of Windows NT/2000.
> One of the very first things that you should do with your
> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system. This
> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file, and a
> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large, and
> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the steps
> to complete the process:
> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
> Tools -> Backup.
> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
> Advanced Mode.
> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom next
> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you for the
> media to use for the backup file, after clicking Next.
> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
> there, but you can also write this file to a hard drive.
> This is the fastest method, but it also requires lots of
> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
> After entering the destination for the backup file, click
> Next again, and then Finish.
> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
> important system files and settings to the backup file.
> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step can
> take a considerable amount of time. After this step is
> complete, you will be prompted for a blank, formatted
> floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk, and
> then the process is complete.
> This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
> program. At this point, you should be able to recover
> your system and its settings to their current state, even
> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the hard
> drive completely failed and had to be replaced). This
> process does not backup other data or files (for
> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a folder
> on the hard drive).
> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice when
> trying to follow the steps above that there is no Backup
> Utility! So what should you do to protect your computer
> system against problems? The next page shows the first
> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability in
> Windows XP Home
> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from yourself,
> did not include the same Backup and Restore utility in
> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
> Professional Edition. To help protect your system using
> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore Utility
> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A Restore
> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer starts
> and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP Home
> computer is in such a condition right now, you should
> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point. XP
> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately after
> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create one as
> well as before each change to the system. For instance,
> if I am about to install a new application, I would first
> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before Application
> X" so that if it turns out the new application causes me
> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
> before.
> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP Home
> Edition, click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System Restore
> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then click
> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of your
> system so that you can restore to that point sometime in
> the future.
> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point when any
> of the following occurs:
> An unsigned device driver is installed
> A new application is installed (if the installation
> program is compatible with System Restore
> Windows Update is used to update your system
> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what Backup
> Utility?!?
> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition,
> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility by
> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows XP
> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
> originally planned to include the Backup Utility in the
> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition, they
> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from the
> final version that you can buy today.
> This may be a frustrating development for many!. Hidden
> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition CD
> lies the actual installation program that you need to put
> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert the
> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of your
> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility
> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
> automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
> It's that easy!
> Now you can click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
> start. One of the things that you may note is the
> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard. While
> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home Edition of
> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
> created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work well
> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-)
> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
> >
> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is also
> included as a
> >result.
> >
> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server.
> Ask 10 people on the
> >street why the need to run a server for that matter.
> >
> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of games
> that leverage SMP?
> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
> overrated and highly
> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
> Explain how SMP makes
> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
> threaded application run
> >faster.
> >
> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
> function on a domain in
> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE
> on a domain to
> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse to
> allow a 3rd party to
> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really think it
> necessary to join a
> >dorm domain?
> >
> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
> haven't addressed why
> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of issues
> that you do need to
> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
> >
> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to put
> it in context. And
> >to put a couple of things in context.
> >
> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what
> makes SMP so
> >"superior" in a single user environment when over 99% of
> the software on the
> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
> personal machine just
> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you
> know that you can do
> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then as
> well what Apache
> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
> possible?
> >
> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
> >
> >--
> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> insufficiently advanced.
> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> ault.asp
> >
> >
> >"John" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
> model
> >> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX. For
> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
> >> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac OSX.
> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro over
> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!. Everyone
> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all the
> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office suite,
> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS have
> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me Mac
> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP Home
> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar feature
> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being added
> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer
> with
> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
> feature
> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
> Editions!.
> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things differently!.
> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
> >> machines.
> >> >
> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
> >> superior? Exactly what
> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user that
> is
> >> a must have?
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> ault.asp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"John" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
> stripped
> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and get
> a
> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in the
> >> >> future!.
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine on
> my
> >> >> laptop with USB2.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make sure
> you
> >> >> download the full 130M
> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a web
> >> based
> >> >> SP1 install.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> >> ault.asp
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
> message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read my
> usb
> >> >> 2.0
> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
> >> software
> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
> work
> >> on
> >> >> all
> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade. Unable
> to
> >> >> install
> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
> this
> >> >> runs my
> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
> >> latest
> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
> because
> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
> >> >> performing
> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my compact
> >> flash
> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works
> (hp
> >> >> 2110)
> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera (Canon
> >> D10).
> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking many
> >> hours
> >> >> >> with the large files.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and HP
> >> usually
> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> dave
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >.
> >

[John]

Most computers built today even, home built PC's like my
own all include a floppy. Exceptions, Macs. Sure Ma and
Pa, or Uncle may never use IIS, but people sitting at
home who are learning how to develop websites or run a
small website, would benifit with a basic IIS webserver,
especially, college students learning computing for a
career. Read this link
http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/scisup/faq/homevspro.html
My sisters n law's brother's son who is about 18 is
managing websites, and beta testing software already at
home. His father who is a computer hardware tech has been
teaching him to prepare him for college. Learning HTML
without a book. Windows XP Pro gives users of all kinds
additional features, and as you read from the link above.
If a student has already got Windows XP Home pre-
installed on their system, they will now have to fork out
additional money for the Pro edition. Better if they had
had it from the start.
>-----Original Message-----
>Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's see
if you understand
>what you quote.
>
>I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How does
ASR work?
>
>BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"John" > wrote in message
...
>> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
>>
>> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many computer
>> users, myself included, is the importance of good
>> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will be
so
>> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing
data,
>> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
>> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of an
eye
>> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one of the
>> first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
>> users should become familiar with is the Automated
System
>> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but
that
>> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from earlier
>> versions of Windows NT/2000.
>> One of the very first things that you should do with
your
>> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
>> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system.
This
>> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file,
and a
>> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large,
and
>> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the steps
>> to complete the process:
>> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
>> Tools -> Backup.
>> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
>> Advanced Mode.
>> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom next
>> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
>> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you for
the
>> media to use for the backup file, after clicking Next.
>> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
>> there, but you can also write this file to a hard
drive.
>> This is the fastest method, but it also requires lots
of
>> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
>> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
>> After entering the destination for the backup file,
click
>> Next again, and then Finish.
>> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
>> important system files and settings to the backup file.
>> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step
can
>> take a considerable amount of time. After this step is
>> complete, you will be prompted for a blank, formatted
>> floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk,
and
>> then the process is complete.
>> This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
>> program. At this point, you should be able to recover
>> your system and its settings to their current state,
even
>> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the
hard
>> drive completely failed and had to be replaced). This
>> process does not backup other data or files (for
>> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a
folder
>> on the hard drive).
>> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice
when
>> trying to follow the steps above that there is no
Backup
>> Utility! So what should you do to protect your
computer
>> system against problems? The next page shows the first
>> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability in
>> Windows XP Home
>> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from yourself,
>> did not include the same Backup and Restore utility in
>> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
>> Professional Edition. To help protect your system
using
>> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore Utility
>> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A Restore
>> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer
starts
>> and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP
Home
>> computer is in such a condition right now, you should
>> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point. XP
>> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately after
>> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create one as
>> well as before each change to the system. For
instance,
>> if I am about to install a new application, I would
first
>> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before Application
>> X" so that if it turns out the new application causes
me
>> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
>> before.
>> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP Home
>> Edition, click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
>> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System
Restore
>> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then
click
>> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
>> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
>> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of your
>> system so that you can restore to that point sometime
in
>> the future.
>> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point when
any
>> of the following occurs:
>> An unsigned device driver is installed
>> A new application is installed (if the installation
>> program is compatible with System Restore
>> Windows Update is used to update your system
>> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
>> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
>> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what Backup
>> Utility?!?
>> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition,
>> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility by
>> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
>> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows XP
>> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
>> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
>> originally planned to include the Backup Utility in the
>> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition, they
>> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from the
>> final version that you can buy today.
>> This may be a frustrating development for many!. Hidden
>> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition CD
>> lies the actual installation program that you need to
put
>> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert the
>> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
>> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
>> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of
your
>> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility
>> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
>> automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
>> It's that easy!
>> Now you can click Start -> All Programs ->
Accessories ->
>> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
>> start. One of the things that you may note is the
>> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard. While
>> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home Edition of
>> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
>> created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
>> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work
well
>> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
>> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-
)
>> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
>> >
>> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is
also
>> included as a
>> >result.
>> >
>> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server.
>> Ask 10 people on the
>> >street why the need to run a server for that matter.
>> >
>> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of
games
>> that leverage SMP?
>> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
>> overrated and highly
>> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
>> Explain how SMP makes
>> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
>> threaded application run
>> >faster.
>> >
>> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
>> function on a domain in
>> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE
>> on a domain to
>> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse
to
>> allow a 3rd party to
>> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really think
it
>> necessary to join a
>> >dorm domain?
>> >
>> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
>> haven't addressed why
>> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of
issues
>> that you do need to
>> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
>> >
>> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to
put
>> it in context. And
>> >to put a couple of things in context.
>> >
>> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
>> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what
>> makes SMP so
>> >"superior" in a single user environment when over 99%
of
>> the software on the
>> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
>> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
>> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
>> personal machine just
>> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you
>> know that you can do
>> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
>> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then
as
>> well what Apache
>> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
>> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
>> possible?
>> >
>> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> insufficiently advanced.
>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> ault.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >"John" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
>> model
>> >> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX.
For
>> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
>> >> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac
OSX.
>> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
>> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro
over
>> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!.
Everyone
>> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all
the
>> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
>> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
>> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office
suite,
>> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
>> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS
have
>> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me
Mac
>> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP
Home
>> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar
feature
>> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
>> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being
added
>> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer
>> with
>> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
>> feature
>> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
>> Editions!.
>> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things
differently!.
>> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
>> >> machines.
>> >> >
>> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
>> >> superior? Exactly what
>> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user
that
>> is
>> >> a must have?
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> ault.asp
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"John" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
>> stripped
>> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and
get
>> a
>> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in
the
>> >> >> future!.
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine
on
>> my
>> >> >> laptop with USB2.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make
sure
>> you
>> >> >> download the full 130M
>> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a
web
>> >> based
>> >> >> SP1 install.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> >> ault.asp
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
>> message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read
my
>> usb
>> >> >> 2.0
>> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
>> >> software
>> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
>> work
>> >> on
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade.
Unable
>> to
>> >> >> install
>> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
>> this
>> >> >> runs my
>> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
>> >> latest
>> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
>> because
>> >> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
>> >> >> performing
>> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my
compact
>> >> flash
>> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works
>> (hp
>> >> >> 2110)
>> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera
(Canon
>> >> D10).
>> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking
many
>> >> hours
>> >> >> >> with the large files.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and
HP
>> >> usually
>> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> dave
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>.
>

[John]

And from what I have seen fome Microsoft, there to greedy
to allow both home users and professionals from having
the same package, so they take items out from one version
so they can sell the same product for a cheaper price.
Instaed of lowering the price of Windows XP Pro and doing
away with Home editions. Their is no Mac OSX Home
edition!. And it is still cheaper than Pro!. I can
understand Office XP Standard,Pro,Small Business, etc..
Just additional software added or removed from package.
But with Windows XP it's features, and functionality.
Look at todays Circuit City and BestBuy adds. Their
running back to school adds. And what's on sale!?.
Windows XP Pro, not Home!. Because students benifit more
from Pro!.
>-----Original Message-----
>Most computers built today even, home built PC's like my
>own all include a floppy. Exceptions, Macs. Sure Ma and
>Pa, or Uncle may never use IIS, but people sitting at
>home who are learning how to develop websites or run a
>small website, would benifit with a basic IIS webserver,
>especially, college students learning computing for a
>career. Read this link
>http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/scisup/faq/homevspro.html
>My sisters n law's brother's son who is about 18 is
>managing websites, and beta testing software already at
>home. His father who is a computer hardware tech has
been
>teaching him to prepare him for college. Learning HTML
>without a book. Windows XP Pro gives users of all kinds
>additional features, and as you read from the link
above.
>If a student has already got Windows XP Home pre-
>installed on their system, they will now have to fork
out
>additional money for the Pro edition. Better if they had
>had it from the start.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's
see
>if you understand
>>what you quote.
>>
>>I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How
does
>ASR work?
>>
>>BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)
>>
>>--
>>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>insufficiently advanced.
>>http://www.dts-l.org
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>ault.asp
>>
>>
>>"John" > wrote in message
...
>>> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
>>>
>>> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many computer
>>> users, myself included, is the importance of good
>>> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will be
>so
>>> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing
>data,
>>> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
>>> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of an
>eye
>>> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one of
the
>>> first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
>>> users should become familiar with is the Automated
>System
>>> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but
>that
>>> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from
earlier
>>> versions of Windows NT/2000.
>>> One of the very first things that you should do with
>your
>>> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
>>> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system.
>This
>>> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file,
>and a
>>> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large,
>and
>>> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the
steps
>>> to complete the process:
>>> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
>>> Tools -> Backup.
>>> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
>>> Advanced Mode.
>>> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom
next
>>> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
>>> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you for
>the
>>> media to use for the backup file, after clicking Next.
>>> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
>>> there, but you can also write this file to a hard
>drive.
>>> This is the fastest method, but it also requires lots
>of
>>> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
>>> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
>>> After entering the destination for the backup file,
>click
>>> Next again, and then Finish.
>>> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
>>> important system files and settings to the backup
file.
>>> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step
>can
>>> take a considerable amount of time. After this step
is
>>> complete, you will be prompted for a blank, formatted
>>> floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk,
>and
>>> then the process is complete.
>>> This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
>>> program. At this point, you should be able to recover
>>> your system and its settings to their current state,
>even
>>> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the
>hard
>>> drive completely failed and had to be replaced). This
>>> process does not backup other data or files (for
>>> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a
>folder
>>> on the hard drive).
>>> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice
>when
>>> trying to follow the steps above that there is no
>Backup
>>> Utility! So what should you do to protect your
>computer
>>> system against problems? The next page shows the
first
>>> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability in
>>> Windows XP Home
>>> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from yourself,
>>> did not include the same Backup and Restore utility in
>>> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
>>> Professional Edition. To help protect your system
>using
>>> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore
Utility
>>> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A Restore
>>> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer
>starts
>>> and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP
>Home
>>> computer is in such a condition right now, you should
>>> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point. XP
>>> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately
after
>>> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create one
as
>>> well as before each change to the system. For
>instance,
>>> if I am about to install a new application, I would
>first
>>> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before
Application
>>> X" so that if it turns out the new application causes
>me
>>> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
>>> before.
>>> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP
Home
>>> Edition, click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
>>> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System
>Restore
>>> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then
>click
>>> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
>>> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
>>> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of your
>>> system so that you can restore to that point sometime
>in
>>> the future.
>>> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point when
>any
>>> of the following occurs:
>>> An unsigned device driver is installed
>>> A new application is installed (if the installation
>>> program is compatible with System Restore
>>> Windows Update is used to update your system
>>> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
>>> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
>>> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what Backup
>>> Utility?!?
>>> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition,
>>> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility by
>>> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
System
>>> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows XP
>>> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
>>> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
>>> originally planned to include the Backup Utility in
the
>>> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition, they
>>> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from the
>>> final version that you can buy today.
>>> This may be a frustrating development for many!.
Hidden
>>> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition CD
>>> lies the actual installation program that you need to
>put
>>> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert
the
>>> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
>>> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
>>> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of
>your
>>> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility
>>> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
>>> automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
>>> It's that easy!
>>> Now you can click Start -> All Programs ->
>Accessories ->
>>> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
>>> start. One of the things that you may note is the
>>> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard.
While
>>> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home Edition
of
>>> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
>>> created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
>>> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work
>well
>>> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
>>> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much
fun. ;-
>)
>>> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
>>> >
>>> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is
>also
>>> included as a
>>> >result.
>>> >
>>> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a
server.
>>> Ask 10 people on the
>>> >street why the need to run a server for that matter.
>>> >
>>> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of
>games
>>> that leverage SMP?
>>> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
>>> overrated and highly
>>> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
>>> Explain how SMP makes
>>> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
>>> threaded application run
>>> >faster.
>>> >
>>> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
>>> function on a domain in
>>> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used
HE
>>> on a domain to
>>> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse
>to
>>> allow a 3rd party to
>>> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really think
>it
>>> necessary to join a
>>> >dorm domain?
>>> >
>>> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
>>> haven't addressed why
>>> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of
>issues
>>> that you do need to
>>> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
>>> >
>>> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to
>put
>>> it in context. And
>>> >to put a couple of things in context.
>>> >
>>> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
>>> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter,
what
>>> makes SMP so
>>> >"superior" in a single user environment when over
99%
>of
>>> the software on the
>>> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
>>> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
>>> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
>>> personal machine just
>>> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did
you
>>> know that you can do
>>> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
>>> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask
then
>as
>>> well what Apache
>>> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
>>> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
>>> possible?
>>> >
>>> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >Associate Expert
>>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> ault.asp
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"John" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
>>> model
>>> >> Apple computer has with their operating system
OSX.
>For
>>> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
>>> >> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac
>OSX.
>>> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So
unlike
>>> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro
>over
>>> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!.
>Everyone
>>> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all
>the
>>> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
>>> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
>>> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office
>suite,
>>> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't
have
>>> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS
>have
>>> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me
>Mac
>>> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP
>Home
>>> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar
>feature
>>> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
>>> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being
>added
>>> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one
computer
>>> with
>>> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
>>> feature
>>> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
>>> Editions!.
>>> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things
>differently!.
>>> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
>>> >> machines.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is
so
>>> >> superior? Exactly what
>>> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user
>that
>>> is
>>> >> a must have?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--
>>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >> >Associate Expert
>>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> >> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>> >>
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> >> ault.asp
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"John" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
>>> stripped
>>> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and
>get
>>> a
>>> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it
in
>the
>>> >> >> future!.
>>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine
>on
>>> my
>>> >> >> laptop with USB2.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make
>sure
>>> you
>>> >> >> download the full 130M
>>> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a
>web
>>> >> based
>>> >> >> SP1 install.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >> >> >Associate Expert
>>> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> >> >> ault.asp
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
>>> message
>>> >> >> ...
>>> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to
read
>my
>>> usb
>>> >> >> 2.0
>>> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
>>> >> software
>>> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
>>> work
>>> >> on
>>> >> >> all
>>> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade.
>Unable
>>> to
>>> >> >> install
>>> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
>>> this
>>> >> >> runs my
>>> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to
the
>>> >> latest
>>> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
>>> because
>>> >> of
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
>>> >> >> performing
>>> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my
>compact
>>> >> flash
>>> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer
works
>>> (hp
>>> >> >> 2110)
>>> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera
>(Canon
>>> >> D10).
>>> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking
>many
>>> >> hours
>>> >> >> >> with the large files.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and
>HP
>>> >> usually
>>> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> dave
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >.
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Walter Clayton]

Nope. Still evading the question and ignoring certain "facts" of life. See
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/archive/default.mspx for a description
of where things are headed.

Again. I have legacy reduced system that has no floppy. How does ASR work
and what does it do for me?

Just to be unfair and expand a bit, without slighting a vendor, name a
single instance where *any* Mac OS was capable or running a loosely coupled
sysplex.

As for "lack of features on HE" I could give you a mini-lecture but I won't.
Fact of the matter is that I have real life experience sitting in front of
me. My laptop, which I use for business and application development for
businesses is running HE. That is sitting right next to my Pro desktop
machine running as my "LAN server". Take a wild guess as to which machine
any of my posts originate from. and on which I do the majority of my
development work. As an aside, I "only" have MSDE installed on the laptop
and SQL Sever installed on my desktop. And while at it, take a wild guess at
why I use HE on my laptop to diagnose domain networking issues.

Again, don't believe what other say. Believe what's in front of your eyes.

And nice dodge on the rest of the questions. You missed the point rather
grossly. I was serious about actually *asking* people. Back away from the
keyboard and go talk to human beings. These are what I support
professionally as well as on these boards.

BTW: You do know what Apache is don't you?

Regardless, hit the streets and ask the questions of random people. You'll
be amazed at the answers you get.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"John" > wrote in message
...
> Most computers built today even, home built PC's like my
> own all include a floppy. Exceptions, Macs. Sure Ma and
> Pa, or Uncle may never use IIS, but people sitting at
> home who are learning how to develop websites or run a
> small website, would benifit with a basic IIS webserver,
> especially, college students learning computing for a
> career. Read this link
> http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/scisup/faq/homevspro.html
> My sisters n law's brother's son who is about 18 is
> managing websites, and beta testing software already at
> home. His father who is a computer hardware tech has been
> teaching him to prepare him for college. Learning HTML
> without a book. Windows XP Pro gives users of all kinds
> additional features, and as you read from the link above.
> If a student has already got Windows XP Home pre-
> installed on their system, they will now have to fork out
> additional money for the Pro edition. Better if they had
> had it from the start.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's see
> if you understand
> >what you quote.
> >
> >I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How does
> ASR work?
> >
> >BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)
> >
> >--
> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >Associate Expert
> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> insufficiently advanced.
> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> ault.asp
> >
> >
> >"John" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
> >>
> >> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many computer
> >> users, myself included, is the importance of good
> >> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will be
> so
> >> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing
> data,
> >> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
> >> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of an
> eye
> >> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one of the
> >> first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
> >> users should become familiar with is the Automated
> System
> >> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but
> that
> >> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from earlier
> >> versions of Windows NT/2000.
> >> One of the very first things that you should do with
> your
> >> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
> >> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system.
> This
> >> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file,
> and a
> >> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large,
> and
> >> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the steps
> >> to complete the process:
> >> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
> >> Tools -> Backup.
> >> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
> >> Advanced Mode.
> >> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom next
> >> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
> >> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you for
> the
> >> media to use for the backup file, after clicking Next.
> >> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
> >> there, but you can also write this file to a hard
> drive.
> >> This is the fastest method, but it also requires lots
> of
> >> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
> >> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
> >> After entering the destination for the backup file,
> click
> >> Next again, and then Finish.
> >> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
> >> important system files and settings to the backup file.
> >> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step
> can
> >> take a considerable amount of time. After this step is
> >> complete, you will be prompted for a blank, formatted
> >> floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk,
> and
> >> then the process is complete.
> >> This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
> >> program. At this point, you should be able to recover
> >> your system and its settings to their current state,
> even
> >> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the
> hard
> >> drive completely failed and had to be replaced). This
> >> process does not backup other data or files (for
> >> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a
> folder
> >> on the hard drive).
> >> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice
> when
> >> trying to follow the steps above that there is no
> Backup
> >> Utility! So what should you do to protect your
> computer
> >> system against problems? The next page shows the first
> >> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability in
> >> Windows XP Home
> >> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from yourself,
> >> did not include the same Backup and Restore utility in
> >> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
> >> Professional Edition. To help protect your system
> using
> >> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore Utility
> >> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A Restore
> >> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer
> starts
> >> and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP
> Home
> >> computer is in such a condition right now, you should
> >> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point. XP
> >> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately after
> >> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create one as
> >> well as before each change to the system. For
> instance,
> >> if I am about to install a new application, I would
> first
> >> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before Application
> >> X" so that if it turns out the new application causes
> me
> >> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
> >> before.
> >> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP Home
> >> Edition, click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
> >> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System
> Restore
> >> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then
> click
> >> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
> >> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
> >> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of your
> >> system so that you can restore to that point sometime
> in
> >> the future.
> >> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point when
> any
> >> of the following occurs:
> >> An unsigned device driver is installed
> >> A new application is installed (if the installation
> >> program is compatible with System Restore
> >> Windows Update is used to update your system
> >> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
> >> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
> >> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what Backup
> >> Utility?!?
> >> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition,
> >> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility by
> >> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
> >> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows XP
> >> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
> >> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
> >> originally planned to include the Backup Utility in the
> >> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition, they
> >> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from the
> >> final version that you can buy today.
> >> This may be a frustrating development for many!. Hidden
> >> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition CD
> >> lies the actual installation program that you need to
> put
> >> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert the
> >> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
> >> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
> >> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of
> your
> >> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility
> >> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
> >> automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
> >> It's that easy!
> >> Now you can click Start -> All Programs ->
> Accessories ->
> >> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
> >> start. One of the things that you may note is the
> >> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard. While
> >> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home Edition of
> >> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
> >> created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
> >> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work
> well
> >> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
> >> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much fun. ;-
> )
> >> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
> >> >
> >> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is
> also
> >> included as a
> >> >result.
> >> >
> >> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a server.
> >> Ask 10 people on the
> >> >street why the need to run a server for that matter.
> >> >
> >> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of
> games
> >> that leverage SMP?
> >> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
> >> overrated and highly
> >> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
> >> Explain how SMP makes
> >> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
> >> threaded application run
> >> >faster.
> >> >
> >> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
> >> function on a domain in
> >> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used HE
> >> on a domain to
> >> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse
> to
> >> allow a 3rd party to
> >> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really think
> it
> >> necessary to join a
> >> >dorm domain?
> >> >
> >> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
> >> haven't addressed why
> >> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of
> issues
> >> that you do need to
> >> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
> >> >
> >> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to
> put
> >> it in context. And
> >> >to put a couple of things in context.
> >> >
> >> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
> >> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter, what
> >> makes SMP so
> >> >"superior" in a single user environment when over 99%
> of
> >> the software on the
> >> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
> >> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
> >> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
> >> personal machine just
> >> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did you
> >> know that you can do
> >> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
> >> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask then
> as
> >> well what Apache
> >> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
> >> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
> >> possible?
> >> >
> >> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> ault.asp
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"John" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
> >> model
> >> >> Apple computer has with their operating system OSX.
> For
> >> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
> >> >> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac
> OSX.
> >> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So unlike
> >> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro
> over
> >> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!.
> Everyone
> >> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all
> the
> >> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
> >> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
> >> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office
> suite,
> >> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't have
> >> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS
> have
> >> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me
> Mac
> >> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP
> Home
> >> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar
> feature
> >> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
> >> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being
> added
> >> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one computer
> >> with
> >> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
> >> feature
> >> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
> >> Editions!.
> >> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things
> differently!.
> >> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
> >> >> machines.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is so
> >> >> superior? Exactly what
> >> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user
> that
> >> is
> >> >> a must have?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >--
> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> >> ault.asp
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"John" > wrote in message
> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
> >> stripped
> >> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and
> get
> >> a
> >> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it in
> the
> >> >> >> future!.
> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine
> on
> >> my
> >> >> >> laptop with USB2.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make
> sure
> >> you
> >> >> >> download the full 130M
> >> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a
> web
> >> >> based
> >> >> >> SP1 install.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >--
> >> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >> >> >> >Associate Expert
> >> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
> >> >> >> ault.asp
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
> >> message
> >> >> >> ...
> >> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to read
> my
> >> usb
> >> >> >> 2.0
> >> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
> >> >> software
> >> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
> >> work
> >> >> on
> >> >> >> all
> >> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade.
> Unable
> >> to
> >> >> >> install
> >> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
> >> this
> >> >> >> runs my
> >> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to the
> >> >> latest
> >> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
> >> because
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
> >> >> >> performing
> >> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my
> compact
> >> >> flash
> >> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer works
> >> (hp
> >> >> >> 2110)
> >> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera
> (Canon
> >> >> D10).
> >> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking
> many
> >> >> hours
> >> >> >> >> with the large files.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and
> HP
> >> >> usually
> >> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> dave
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >
> >
> >.
> >

[Walter Clayton]

DUDE!!!!!

Get a grip. ;-)

You're grasping. And that's not a good thing.

FYI: I can think of some legitimate criticisms for the differences between
HE and Pro. Complaining because it isn't Mac isn't going to go far.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"John" > wrote in message
...
> And from what I have seen fome Microsoft, there to greedy
> to allow both home users and professionals from having
> the same package, so they take items out from one version
> so they can sell the same product for a cheaper price.
> Instaed of lowering the price of Windows XP Pro and doing
> away with Home editions. Their is no Mac OSX Home
> edition!. And it is still cheaper than Pro!. I can
> understand Office XP Standard,Pro,Small Business, etc..
> Just additional software added or removed from package.
> But with Windows XP it's features, and functionality.
> Look at todays Circuit City and BestBuy adds. Their
> running back to school adds. And what's on sale!?.
> Windows XP Pro, not Home!. Because students benifit more
> from Pro!.
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Most computers built today even, home built PC's like my
> >own all include a floppy. Exceptions, Macs. Sure Ma and
> >Pa, or Uncle may never use IIS, but people sitting at
> >home who are learning how to develop websites or run a
> >small website, would benifit with a basic IIS webserver,
> >especially, college students learning computing for a
> >career. Read this link
> >http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/scisup/faq/homevspro.html
> >My sisters n law's brother's son who is about 18 is
> >managing websites, and beta testing software already at
> >home. His father who is a computer hardware tech has
> been
> >teaching him to prepare him for college. Learning HTML
> >without a book. Windows XP Pro gives users of all kinds
> >additional features, and as you read from the link
> above.
> >If a student has already got Windows XP Home pre-
> >installed on their system, they will now have to fork
> out
> >additional money for the Pro edition. Better if they had
> >had it from the start.
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's
> see
> >if you understand
> >>what you quote.
> >>
> >>I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How
> does
> >ASR work?
> >>
> >>BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)
> >>
> >>--
> >>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >>Associate Expert
> >>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >insufficiently advanced.
> >>http://www.dts-l.org
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
> f
> >ault.asp
> >>
> >>
> >>"John" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
> >>>
> >>> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many computer
> >>> users, myself included, is the importance of good
> >>> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will be
> >so
> >>> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing
> >data,
> >>> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
> >>> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of an
> >eye
> >>> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one of
> the
> >>> first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
> >>> users should become familiar with is the Automated
> >System
> >>> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but
> >that
> >>> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from
> earlier
> >>> versions of Windows NT/2000.
> >>> One of the very first things that you should do with
> >your
> >>> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
> >>> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system.
> >This
> >>> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file,
> >and a
> >>> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large,
> >and
> >>> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the
> steps
> >>> to complete the process:
> >>> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
> >>> Tools -> Backup.
> >>> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
> >>> Advanced Mode.
> >>> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom
> next
> >>> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
> >>> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you for
> >the
> >>> media to use for the backup file, after clicking Next.
> >>> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
> >>> there, but you can also write this file to a hard
> >drive.
> >>> This is the fastest method, but it also requires lots
> >of
> >>> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
> >>> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
> >>> After entering the destination for the backup file,
> >click
> >>> Next again, and then Finish.
> >>> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
> >>> important system files and settings to the backup
> file.
> >>> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step
> >can
> >>> take a considerable amount of time. After this step
> is
> >>> complete, you will be prompted for a blank, formatted
> >>> floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk,
> >and
> >>> then the process is complete.
> >>> This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
> >>> program. At this point, you should be able to recover
> >>> your system and its settings to their current state,
> >even
> >>> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the
> >hard
> >>> drive completely failed and had to be replaced). This
> >>> process does not backup other data or files (for
> >>> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a
> >folder
> >>> on the hard drive).
> >>> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice
> >when
> >>> trying to follow the steps above that there is no
> >Backup
> >>> Utility! So what should you do to protect your
> >computer
> >>> system against problems? The next page shows the
> first
> >>> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability in
> >>> Windows XP Home
> >>> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from yourself,
> >>> did not include the same Backup and Restore utility in
> >>> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
> >>> Professional Edition. To help protect your system
> >using
> >>> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore
> Utility
> >>> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A Restore
> >>> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer
> >starts
> >>> and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP
> >Home
> >>> computer is in such a condition right now, you should
> >>> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point. XP
> >>> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately
> after
> >>> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create one
> as
> >>> well as before each change to the system. For
> >instance,
> >>> if I am about to install a new application, I would
> >first
> >>> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before
> Application
> >>> X" so that if it turns out the new application causes
> >me
> >>> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
> >>> before.
> >>> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP
> Home
> >>> Edition, click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
> >>> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System
> >Restore
> >>> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then
> >click
> >>> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
> >>> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
> >>> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of your
> >>> system so that you can restore to that point sometime
> >in
> >>> the future.
> >>> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point when
> >any
> >>> of the following occurs:
> >>> An unsigned device driver is installed
> >>> A new application is installed (if the installation
> >>> program is compatible with System Restore
> >>> Windows Update is used to update your system
> >>> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
> >>> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
> >>> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what Backup
> >>> Utility?!?
> >>> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional Edition,
> >>> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility by
> >>> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
> System
> >>> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows XP
> >>> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
> >>> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
> >>> originally planned to include the Backup Utility in
> the
> >>> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition, they
> >>> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from the
> >>> final version that you can buy today.
> >>> This may be a frustrating development for many!.
> Hidden
> >>> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition CD
> >>> lies the actual installation program that you need to
> >put
> >>> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert
> the
> >>> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
> >>> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
> >>> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of
> >your
> >>> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup Utility
> >>> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
> >>> automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
> >>> It's that easy!
> >>> Now you can click Start -> All Programs ->
> >Accessories ->
> >>> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
> >>> start. One of the things that you may note is the
> >>> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard.
> While
> >>> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home Edition
> of
> >>> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
> >>> created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
> >>> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work
> >well
> >>> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
> >>> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much
> fun. ;-
> >)
> >>> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
> >>> >
> >>> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is
> >also
> >>> included as a
> >>> >result.
> >>> >
> >>> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a
> server.
> >>> Ask 10 people on the
> >>> >street why the need to run a server for that matter.
> >>> >
> >>> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of
> >games
> >>> that leverage SMP?
> >>> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
> >>> overrated and highly
> >>> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's loss.
> >>> Explain how SMP makes
> >>> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
> >>> threaded application run
> >>> >faster.
> >>> >
> >>> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
> >>> function on a domain in
> >>> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've used
> HE
> >>> on a domain to
> >>> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I refuse
> >to
> >>> allow a 3rd party to
> >>> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really think
> >it
> >>> necessary to join a
> >>> >dorm domain?
> >>> >
> >>> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You still
> >>> haven't addressed why
> >>> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of
> >issues
> >>> that you do need to
> >>> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is for.
> >>> >
> >>> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to
> >put
> >>> it in context. And
> >>> >to put a couple of things in context.
> >>> >
> >>> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
> >>> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter,
> what
> >>> makes SMP so
> >>> >"superior" in a single user environment when over
> 99%
> >of
> >>> the software on the
> >>> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
> >>> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on HE?
> >>> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on your
> >>> personal machine just
> >>> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did
> you
> >>> know that you can do
> >>> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
> >>> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask
> then
> >as
> >>> well what Apache
> >>> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with either.
> >>> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
> >>> possible?
> >>> >
> >>> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my business.
> >>> >
> >>> >--
> >>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >>> >Associate Expert
> >>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >>> insufficiently advanced.
> >>> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>>
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
> f
> >>> ault.asp
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >"John" > wrote in message
> >>> ...
> >>> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like the
> >>> model
> >>> >> Apple computer has with their operating system
> OSX.
> >For
> >>> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
> >>> >> operating system with the same capabilities in Mac
> >OSX.
> >>> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So
> unlike
> >>> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had Pro
> >over
> >>> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!.
> >Everyone
> >>> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all
> >the
> >>> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP at
> >>> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
> >>> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office
> >suite,
> >>> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't
> have
> >>> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at MS
> >have
> >>> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To me
> >Mac
> >>> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows XP
> >Home
> >>> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar
> >feature
> >>> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
> >>> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being
> >added
> >>> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one
> computer
> >>> with
> >>> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
> >>> feature
> >>> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
> >>> Editions!.
> >>> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things
> >differently!.
> >>> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
> >>> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two other
> >>> >> machines.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro is
> so
> >>> >> superior? Exactly what
> >>> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user
> >that
> >>> is
> >>> >> a must have?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >--
> >>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >>> >> >Associate Expert
> >>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >>> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
> f
> >>> >> ault.asp
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >"John" > wrote in message
> >>> >> ...
> >>> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
> >>> stripped
> >>> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro and
> >get
> >>> a
> >>> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it
> in
> >the
> >>> >> >> future!.
> >>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >>> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working fine
> >on
> >>> my
> >>> >> >> laptop with USB2.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make
> >sure
> >>> you
> >>> >> >> download the full 130M
> >>> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do a
> >web
> >>> >> based
> >>> >> >> SP1 install.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >--
> >>> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
> >>> >> >> >Associate Expert
> >>> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
> >>> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
> >>> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
> >>> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>
> >>>
> >>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
> f
> >>> >> >> ault.asp
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
> >>> message
> >>> >> >> ...
> >>> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to
> read
> >my
> >>> usb
> >>> >> >> 2.0
> >>> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install the
> >>> >> software
> >>> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck. Cards
> >>> work
> >>> >> on
> >>> >> >> all
> >>> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are fine.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade.
> >Unable
> >>> to
> >>> >> >> install
> >>> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I think
> >>> this
> >>> >> >> runs my
> >>> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to
> the
> >>> >> latest
> >>> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
> >>> because
> >>> >> of
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that after
> >>> >> >> performing
> >>> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my
> >compact
> >>> >> flash
> >>> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer
> works
> >>> (hp
> >>> >> >> 2110)
> >>> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera
> >(Canon
> >>> >> D10).
> >>> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow taking
> >many
> >>> >> hours
> >>> >> >> >> with the large files.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to and
> >HP
> >>> >> usually
> >>> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
> >>> >> >> >>
> >>> >> >> >> dave
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> >.
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >
> >>> >.
> >>> >
> >>
> >>.
> >>
> >.
> >

[John]

Ok ASR will not work for you because you don't own a
floppy!. And nice Windows Hardware and Driver page. I
thought it would have been about Longhorn!. MS's up and
coming operating system. I like how alot of observers
asre seeing how Microsoft is trying to mimmick Apple's
Quartz Extreme, with Longhorns fancy graphics. I'm no
professional, but does ILM, Pixar, and other special
effects companies seem to prefer Linux and Mac OSX over
Windows XP.
>-----Original Message-----
>Nope. Still evading the question and ignoring
certain "facts" of life. See
>http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/archive/default.mspx
for a description
>of where things are headed.
>
>Again. I have legacy reduced system that has no floppy.
How does ASR work
>and what does it do for me?
>
>Just to be unfair and expand a bit, without slighting a
vendor, name a
>single instance where *any* Mac OS was capable or
running a loosely coupled
>sysplex.
>
>As for "lack of features on HE" I could give you a mini-
lecture but I won't.
>Fact of the matter is that I have real life experience
sitting in front of
>me. My laptop, which I use for business and application
development for
>businesses is running HE. That is sitting right next to
my Pro desktop
>machine running as my "LAN server". Take a wild guess as
to which machine
>any of my posts originate from. and on which I do the
majority of my
>development work. As an aside, I "only" have MSDE
installed on the laptop
>and SQL Sever installed on my desktop. And while at it,
take a wild guess at
>why I use HE on my laptop to diagnose domain networking
issues.
>
>Again, don't believe what other say. Believe what's in
front of your eyes.
>
>And nice dodge on the rest of the questions. You missed
the point rather
>grossly. I was serious about actually *asking* people.
Back away from the
>keyboard and go talk to human beings. These are what I
support
>professionally as well as on these boards.
>
>BTW: You do know what Apache is don't you?
>
>Regardless, hit the streets and ask the questions of
random people. You'll
>be amazed at the answers you get.
>
>--
>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>Associate Expert
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
insufficiently advanced.
>http://www.dts-l.org
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
ault.asp
>
>
>"John" > wrote in message
...
>> Most computers built today even, home built PC's like
my
>> own all include a floppy. Exceptions, Macs. Sure Ma and
>> Pa, or Uncle may never use IIS, but people sitting at
>> home who are learning how to develop websites or run a
>> small website, would benifit with a basic IIS
webserver,
>> especially, college students learning computing for a
>> career. Read this link
>> http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/scisup/faq/homevspro.html
>> My sisters n law's brother's son who is about 18 is
>> managing websites, and beta testing software already at
>> home. His father who is a computer hardware tech has
been
>> teaching him to prepare him for college. Learning HTML
>> without a book. Windows XP Pro gives users of all
kinds
>> additional features, and as you read from the link
above.
>> If a student has already got Windows XP Home pre-
>> installed on their system, they will now have to fork
out
>> additional money for the Pro edition. Better if they
had
>> had it from the start.
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's
see
>> if you understand
>> >what you quote.
>> >
>> >I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How
does
>> ASR work?
>> >
>> >BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)
>> >
>> >--
>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >Associate Expert
>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> insufficiently advanced.
>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> ault.asp
>> >
>> >
>> >"John" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
>> >>
>> >> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many
computer
>> >> users, myself included, is the importance of good
>> >> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will
be
>> so
>> >> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing
>> data,
>> >> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
>> >> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of
an
>> eye
>> >> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one of
the
>> >> first backup procedures that Windows XP Professional
>> >> users should become familiar with is the Automated
>> System
>> >> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to (but
>> that
>> >> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from
earlier
>> >> versions of Windows NT/2000.
>> >> One of the very first things that you should do with
>> your
>> >> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
>> >> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system.
>> This
>> >> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file,
>> and a
>> >> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite large,
>> and
>> >> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the
steps
>> >> to complete the process:
>> >> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System
>> >> Tools -> Backup.
>> >> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
>> >> Advanced Mode.
>> >> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom
next
>> >> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
>> >> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you
for
>> the
>> >> media to use for the backup file, after clicking
Next.
>> >> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can go
>> >> there, but you can also write this file to a hard
>> drive.
>> >> This is the fastest method, but it also requires
lots
>> of
>> >> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
>> >> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
>> >> After entering the destination for the backup file,
>> click
>> >> Next again, and then Finish.
>> >> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
>> >> important system files and settings to the backup
file.
>> >> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this step
>> can
>> >> take a considerable amount of time. After this
step is
>> >> complete, you will be prompted for a blank,
formatted
>> >> floppy disk. Several files are written to the disk,
>> and
>> >> then the process is complete.
>> >> This is the first step in a good backup and recovery
>> >> program. At this point, you should be able to
recover
>> >> your system and its settings to their current state,
>> even
>> >> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance, the
>> hard
>> >> drive completely failed and had to be replaced).
This
>> >> process does not backup other data or files (for
>> >> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a
>> folder
>> >> on the hard drive).
>> >> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will notice
>> when
>> >> trying to follow the steps above that there is no
>> Backup
>> >> Utility! So what should you do to protect your
>> computer
>> >> system against problems? The next page shows the
first
>> >> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability
in
>> >> Windows XP Home
>> >> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from
yourself,
>> >> did not include the same Backup and Restore utility
in
>> >> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
>> >> Professional Edition. To help protect your system
>> using
>> >> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore
Utility
>> >> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A
Restore
>> >> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer
>> starts
>> >> and runs without any errors or problems. If your XP
>> Home
>> >> computer is in such a condition right now, you
should
>> >> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point.
XP
>> >> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately
after
>> >> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create
one as
>> >> well as before each change to the system. For
>> instance,
>> >> if I am about to install a new application, I would
>> first
>> >> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before
Application
>> >> X" so that if it turns out the new application
causes
>> me
>> >> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
>> >> before.
>> >> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP
Home
>> >> Edition, click Start -> All Programs ->
Accessories ->
>> >> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System
>> Restore
>> >> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then
>> click
>> >> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
>> >> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
>> >> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of
your
>> >> system so that you can restore to that point
sometime
>> in
>> >> the future.
>> >> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point
when
>> any
>> >> of the following occurs:
>> >> An unsigned device driver is installed
>> >> A new application is installed (if the installation
>> >> program is compatible with System Restore
>> >> Windows Update is used to update your system
>> >> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
>> >> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
>> >> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what
Backup
>> >> Utility?!?
>> >> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Edition,
>> >> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility
by
>> >> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
System
>> >> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using Windows
XP
>> >> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility under
>> >> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
>> >> originally planned to include the Backup Utility in
the
>> >> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition,
they
>> >> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from
the
>> >> final version that you can buy today.
>> >> This may be a frustrating development for many!.
Hidden
>> >> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home Edition
CD
>> >> lies the actual installation program that you need
to
>> put
>> >> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply insert
the
>> >> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
>> >> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
>> >> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of
>> your
>> >> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup
Utility
>> >> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
>> >> automatically. When it is finished, click "Finish."
>> >> It's that easy!
>> >> Now you can click Start -> All Programs ->
>> Accessories ->
>> >> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
>> >> start. One of the things that you may note is the
>> >> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard.
While
>> >> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home
Edition of
>> >> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
>> >> created with this Wizard in XP Home are unreliable!.
>> >> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work
>> well
>> >> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
>> >> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much
fun. ;-
>> )
>> >> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
>> >> >
>> >> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR is
>> also
>> >> included as a
>> >> >result.
>> >> >
>> >> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a
server.
>> >> Ask 10 people on the
>> >> >street why the need to run a server for that
matter.
>> >> >
>> >> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of
>> games
>> >> that leverage SMP?
>> >> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
>> >> overrated and highly
>> >> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's
loss.
>> >> Explain how SMP makes
>> >> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
>> >> threaded application run
>> >> >faster.
>> >> >
>> >> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
>> >> function on a domain in
>> >> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've
used HE
>> >> on a domain to
>> >> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I
refuse
>> to
>> >> allow a 3rd party to
>> >> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really
think
>> it
>> >> necessary to join a
>> >> >dorm domain?
>> >> >
>> >> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You
still
>> >> haven't addressed why
>> >> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of
>> issues
>> >> that you do need to
>> >> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is
for.
>> >> >
>> >> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question to
>> put
>> >> it in context. And
>> >> >to put a couple of things in context.
>> >> >
>> >> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
>> >> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter,
what
>> >> makes SMP so
>> >> >"superior" in a single user environment when over
99%
>> of
>> >> the software on the
>> >> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
>> >> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on
HE?
>> >> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on
your
>> >> personal machine just
>> >> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or did
you
>> >> know that you can do
>> >> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
>> >> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask
then
>> as
>> >> well what Apache
>> >> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with
either.
>> >> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
>> >> possible?
>> >> >
>> >> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my
business.
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> ault.asp
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >"John" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like
the
>> >> model
>> >> >> Apple computer has with their operating system
OSX.
>> For
>> >> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the same
>> >> >> operating system with the same capabilities in
Mac
>> OSX.
>> >> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So
unlike
>> >> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had
Pro
>> over
>> >> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!.
>> Everyone
>> >> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use all
>> the
>> >> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP
at
>> >> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
>> >> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office
>> suite,
>> >> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't
have
>> >> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at
MS
>> have
>> >> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To
me
>> Mac
>> >> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows
XP
>> Home
>> >> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar
>> feature
>> >> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch a
>> >> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features being
>> added
>> >> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one
computer
>> >> with
>> >> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
>> >> feature
>> >> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
>> >> Editions!.
>> >> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things
>> differently!.
>> >> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two
other
>> >> >> machines.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro
is so
>> >> >> superior? Exactly what
>> >> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user
>> that
>> >> is
>> >> >> a must have?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> >> ault.asp
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"John" > wrote in message
>> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
>> >> stripped
>> >> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro
and
>> get
>> >> a
>> >> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret it
in
>> the
>> >> >> >> future!.
>> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working
fine
>> on
>> >> my
>> >> >> >> laptop with USB2.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make
>> sure
>> >> you
>> >> >> >> download the full 130M
>> >> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to do
a
>> web
>> >> >> based
>> >> >> >> SP1 install.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >--
>> >> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>> >> >> >> >Associate Expert
>> >> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>> >> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>> >> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
>> >> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>
>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/def
>> >> >> >> ault.asp
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> >> >> >news:028d01c352f7$a8f2f3c0
...
>> >> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to
read
>> my
>> >> usb
>> >> >> >> 2.0
>> >> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install
the
>> >> >> software
>> >> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck.
Cards
>> >> work
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> all
>> >> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are
fine.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade.
>> Unable
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> install
>> >> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I
think
>> >> this
>> >> >> >> runs my
>> >> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download to
the
>> >> >> latest
>> >> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
>> >> because
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that
after
>> >> >> >> performing
>> >> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my
>> compact
>> >> >> flash
>> >> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer
works
>> >> (hp
>> >> >> >> 2110)
>> >> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera
>> (Canon
>> >> >> D10).
>> >> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow
taking
>> many
>> >> >> hours
>> >> >> >> >> with the large files.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to
and
>> HP
>> >> >> usually
>> >> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> dave
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>
>
>.
>

[John]

Actually with my home system. I have two harddrives. A
120GB and 60GB. And I dualboot with Windows XP Home
Edition (120GB)/ SuSE 8.2 (Professional)(60GB). I chose
SuSE 8.2 Pro mainly because it had more applications and
you can't resist a $89.95 price tag for a professional
Linux operating system. Which is more powerful than Home
or Professional XP. I can read a Windows partition with
SuSE 8.2, but Windows XP Home or Pro for that matter
cannot read my Linux partition. I bought Linux to learn!.
If I got the same type of applications that I got with
SuSE, but for Windows XP. It would have cost me
thousands!. Why are some companies looking at Linux,
because it is cheaper, and in some ways does a better job
at certain things then Windows XP or Mac OSX. And between
the two I still feel Linux is more stable. Windows XP has
crashed on me more. But as far as applications go. Yes
Windows XP is more rich!.
>-----Original Message-----
>Ok ASR will not work for you because you don't own a
>floppy!. And nice Windows Hardware and Driver page. I
>thought it would have been about Longhorn!. MS's up and
>coming operating system. I like how alot of observers
>asre seeing how Microsoft is trying to mimmick Apple's
>Quartz Extreme, with Longhorns fancy graphics. I'm no
>professional, but does ILM, Pixar, and other special
>effects companies seem to prefer Linux and Mac OSX over
>Windows XP.
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Nope. Still evading the question and ignoring
>certain "facts" of life. See
>>http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/archive/default.mspx

>for a description
>>of where things are headed.
>>
>>Again. I have legacy reduced system that has no floppy.
>How does ASR work
>>and what does it do for me?
>>
>>Just to be unfair and expand a bit, without slighting a
>vendor, name a
>>single instance where *any* Mac OS was capable or
>running a loosely coupled
>>sysplex.
>>
>>As for "lack of features on HE" I could give you a mini-
>lecture but I won't.
>>Fact of the matter is that I have real life experience
>sitting in front of
>>me. My laptop, which I use for business and application
>development for
>>businesses is running HE. That is sitting right next to
>my Pro desktop
>>machine running as my "LAN server". Take a wild guess
as
>to which machine
>>any of my posts originate from. and on which I do the
>majority of my
>>development work. As an aside, I "only" have MSDE
>installed on the laptop
>>and SQL Sever installed on my desktop. And while at it,
>take a wild guess at
>>why I use HE on my laptop to diagnose domain networking
>issues.
>>
>>Again, don't believe what other say. Believe what's in
>front of your eyes.
>>
>>And nice dodge on the rest of the questions. You missed
>the point rather
>>grossly. I was serious about actually *asking* people.
>Back away from the
>>keyboard and go talk to human beings. These are what I
>support
>>professionally as well as on these boards.
>>
>>BTW: You do know what Apache is don't you?
>>
>>Regardless, hit the streets and ask the questions of
>random people. You'll
>>be amazed at the answers you get.
>>
>>--
>>Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>Associate Expert
>>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>insufficiently advanced.
>>http://www.dts-l.org
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>ault.asp
>>
>>
>>"John" > wrote in message
...
>>> Most computers built today even, home built PC's like
>my
>>> own all include a floppy. Exceptions, Macs. Sure Ma
and
>>> Pa, or Uncle may never use IIS, but people sitting at
>>> home who are learning how to develop websites or run a
>>> small website, would benifit with a basic IIS
>webserver,
>>> especially, college students learning computing for a
>>> career. Read this link
>>> http://www.ucs.ed.ac.uk/usd/scisup/faq/homevspro.html
>>> My sisters n law's brother's son who is about 18 is
>>> managing websites, and beta testing software already
at
>>> home. His father who is a computer hardware tech has
>been
>>> teaching him to prepare him for college. Learning HTML
>>> without a book. Windows XP Pro gives users of all
>kinds
>>> additional features, and as you read from the link
>above.
>>> If a student has already got Windows XP Home pre-
>>> installed on their system, they will now have to fork
>out
>>> additional money for the Pro edition. Better if they
>had
>>> had it from the start.
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >Hmmm. Ok. You're good at quoting material, but let's
>see
>>> if you understand
>>> >what you quote.
>>> >
>>> >I have a Toshiba 2435 that has no floppy drive. How
>does
>>> ASR work?
>>> >
>>> >BTW: You're still avoiding the other question. ;-)
>>> >
>>> >--
>>> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >Associate Expert
>>> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> ault.asp
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"John" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>> >> Hmm ASR (Automated System Recovery)
>>> >>
>>> >> One of the hardest lessons to learn for many
>computer
>>> >> users, myself included, is the importance of good
>>> >> backups. Maybe in the future, computer media will
>be
>>> so
>>> >> dependable that we won't have to worry about losing
>>> data,
>>> >> but at least for the foreseeable future, an entire
>>> >> lifetime worth of data can be lost in the blink of
>an
>>> eye
>>> >> (or the electrical power). For that reason, one
of
>the
>>> >> first backup procedures that Windows XP
Professional
>>> >> users should become familiar with is the Automated
>>> System
>>> >> Recovery. This is a process that is similar to
(but
>>> that
>>> >> goes way beyond) the Emergency Repair Disk from
>earlier
>>> >> versions of Windows NT/2000.
>>> >> One of the very first things that you should do
with
>>> your
>>> >> Windows XP computer is to use the Automated System
>>> >> Recovery Wizard to create a backup of your system.
>>> This
>>> >> backup will be made of of two parts: a backup file,
>>> and a
>>> >> Recovery Disk. The backup file will be quite
large,
>>> and
>>> >> the Recovery Disk will be a floppy. Here are the
>steps
>>> >> to complete the process:
>>> >> Click Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
System
>>> >> Tools -> Backup.
>>> >> When the Backup or Restore Wizard starts, click on
>>> >> Advanced Mode.
>>> >> On the Welcome tab, click the button at the bottom
>next
>>> >> to Automated System Recovery Wizard.
>>> >> This will start the Wizard, which will prompt you
>for
>>> the
>>> >> media to use for the backup file, after clicking
>Next.
>>> >> If you have a tape drive installed, this file can
go
>>> >> there, but you can also write this file to a hard
>>> drive.
>>> >> This is the fastest method, but it also requires
>lots
>>> of
>>> >> free space. A writeable CD will work, if the CDRW
>>> >> software allows it to be access via a drive letter.
>>> >> After entering the destination for the backup file,
>>> click
>>> >> Next again, and then Finish.
>>> >> The Windows XP Backup utility will copy all of the
>>> >> important system files and settings to the backup
>file.
>>> >> An estimate and status bar is provided, as this
step
>>> can
>>> >> take a considerable amount of time. After this
>step is
>>> >> complete, you will be prompted for a blank,
>formatted
>>> >> floppy disk. Several files are written to the
disk,
>>> and
>>> >> then the process is complete.
>>> >> This is the first step in a good backup and
recovery
>>> >> program. At this point, you should be able to
>recover
>>> >> your system and its settings to their current
state,
>>> even
>>> >> if you had a catastrophic problem (for instance,
the
>>> hard
>>> >> drive completely failed and had to be replaced).
>This
>>> >> process does not backup other data or files (for
>>> >> instance, Word documents that you have stored in a
>>> folder
>>> >> on the hard drive).
>>> >> If you have Windows XP Home Edition, you will
notice
>>> when
>>> >> trying to follow the steps above that there is no
>>> Backup
>>> >> Utility! So what should you do to protect your
>>> computer
>>> >> system against problems? The next page shows the
>first
>>> >> step that you will need to perform. Recoverability
>in
>>> >> Windows XP Home
>>> >> Microsoft, in an attempt to protect you from
>yourself,
>>> >> did not include the same Backup and Restore
utility
>in
>>> >> Windows XP Home Edition as we find in Windows XP
>>> >> Professional Edition. To help protect your system
>>> using
>>> >> Windows XP Home, you can use the System Restore
>Utility
>>> >> to create what is called a "Restore Point." A
>Restore
>>> >> Point, ideally, is a point at which your computer
>>> starts
>>> >> and runs without any errors or problems. If your
XP
>>> Home
>>> >> computer is in such a condition right now, you
>should
>>> >> follow these steps to create a new Restore Point.
>XP
>>> >> automatically creates a Restore Point immediately
>after
>>> >> installing Windows XP Home. I will often create
>one as
>>> >> well as before each change to the system. For
>>> instance,
>>> >> if I am about to install a new application, I would
>>> first
>>> >> create a Restore Point, and name it "Before
>Application
>>> >> X" so that if it turns out the new application
>causes
>>> me
>>> >> problems, I can restore my system to the way it was
>>> >> before.
>>> >> To create a new System Restore Point in Windows XP
>Home
>>> >> Edition, click Start -> All Programs ->
>Accessories ->
>>> >> System Tools -> System Restore. When the System
>>> Restore
>>> >> Utility opens, click "Create a Restore Point" then
>>> click
>>> >> Next. Enter a name for this Restore Point (for
>>> >> instance, "Before Installing Office XP"), and click
>>> >> Create. The utility will then take a snapshot of
>your
>>> >> system so that you can restore to that point
>sometime
>>> in
>>> >> the future.
>>> >> Windows XP automatically creates a Restore Point
>when
>>> any
>>> >> of the following occurs:
>>> >> An unsigned device driver is installed
>>> >> A new application is installed (if the installation
>>> >> program is compatible with System Restore
>>> >> Windows Update is used to update your system
>>> >> A Restore Point from earlier is restored
>>> >> A backup using the Backup Utility is restored.
>>> >> Wait...using the Backup Utility, you say - what
>Backup
>>> >> Utility?!?
>>> >> If you have Microsoft Windows XP Professional
>Edition,
>>> >> you will easily be able to find the Backup Utility
>by
>>> >> clicking Start -> All Programs -> Accessories ->
>System
>>> >> Tools -> Backup. However, if you are using
Windows
>XP
>>> >> Home Edition, your search for a backup utility
under
>>> >> System Tools will be fruitless. Although Microsoft
>>> >> originally planned to include the Backup Utility
in
>the
>>> >> Home Edition as well as the Professional Edition,
>they
>>> >> removed it, for reasons known to themselves, from
>the
>>> >> final version that you can buy today.
>>> >> This may be a frustrating development for many!.
>Hidden
>>> >> deep in the recesses of the Windows XP Home
Edition
>CD
>>> >> lies the actual installation program that you need
>to
>>> put
>>> >> the Backup Utility on your computer. Simply
insert
>the
>>> >> XP CD, and run NTBACKUP.MSI (it might look like
>>> >> just "Ntbackup") program from the folder
>>> >> D:\Valueadd\msft\ntbackup where D: is the letter of
>>> your
>>> >> CD drive. This will launch the Windows Backup
>Utility
>>> >> Installation Wizard, which will install the utility
>>> >> automatically. When it is finished,
click "Finish."
>>> >> It's that easy!
>>> >> Now you can click Start -> All Programs ->
>>> Accessories ->
>>> >> System Tools -> Backup, and the Backup Utility will
>>> >> start. One of the things that you may note is the
>>> >> presence of the Automated System Recovery Wizard.
>While
>>> >> you can try to use this Wizard with the Home
>Edition of
>>> >> XP, the results can be unpredictable, and the disks
>>> >> created with this Wizard in XP Home are
unreliable!.
>>> >> Therefore the NT Backup utility really doesn't work
>>> well
>>> >> with Windows XP Home Edition. Microsoft notes and
>>> >> acknowledges this in KB Article Q302700.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >Hmmm.. Lets see. Defeat in detail is *so* much
>fun. ;-
>>> )
>>> >> >By the way, do read the question carefully.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >1) NTBack can be installed from a retail CD. ASR
is
>>> also
>>> >> included as a
>>> >> >result.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >2) IIS. Ask your mother why she needs to run a
>server.
>>> >> Ask 10 people on the
>>> >> >street why the need to run a server for that
>matter.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >3) SMP. Care to take a wild guess at the number of
>>> games
>>> >> that leverage SMP?
>>> >> >Care to extend that number to applications. SMP is
>>> >> overrated and highly
>>> >> >misunderstood by 99% of those who belabor it's
>loss.
>>> >> Explain how SMP makes
>>> >> >Word run faster. Explain how SMP makes any single
>>> >> threaded application run
>>> >> >faster.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >4) Domains. I was waiting for this one. ;-) HE can
>>> >> function on a domain in
>>> >> >work station mode. Fact of the matter is, I've
>used HE
>>> >> on a domain to
>>> >> >trouble shoot network configuration issues. I
>refuse
>>> to
>>> >> allow a 3rd party to
>>> >> >push policies on my machine. Why do you really
>think
>>> it
>>> >> necessary to join a
>>> >> >dorm domain?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >5) If computers are your hobby, learn more. You
>still
>>> >> haven't addressed why
>>> >> >Pro is "superior". You have belabored a couple of
>>> issues
>>> >> that you do need to
>>> >> >learn more about, but that's what this forum is
>for.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Take another stab and I'll rephrase the question
to
>>> put
>>> >> it in context. And
>>> >> >to put a couple of things in context.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >1) Why does your mother need EFS?
>>> >> >2) Why does your uncle need SMP? For that matter,
>what
>>> >> makes SMP so
>>> >> >"superior" in a single user environment when over
>99%
>>> of
>>> >> the software on the
>>> >> >market doesn't leverage SMP?
>>> >> >3) Did you know that NTBackup can be installed on
>HE?
>>> >> >4) Why do you want some one to push policies on
>your
>>> >> personal machine just
>>> >> >so you can browse a LAN, the 'net or print? Or
did
>you
>>> >> know that you can do
>>> >> >these things on a domain with a workstation?
>>> >> >5) Ask 10 people off the street what IIS is. Ask
>then
>>> as
>>> >> well what Apache
>>> >> >is. While at it, ask them what they'd do with
>either.
>>> >> >6) Why not take the time to actually learn what is
>>> >> possible?
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Computers may be your hobby, but they're my
>business.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--
>>> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >> >Associate Expert
>>> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> >> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>> >>
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> >> ault.asp
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >"John" > wrote in message
>>> >> ...
>>> >> >> One more thing. I have always and still do like
>the
>>> >> model
>>> >> >> Apple computer has with their operating system
>OSX.
>>> For
>>> >> >> the price of $129.00 every Mac user gets the
same
>>> >> >> operating system with the same capabilities in
>Mac
>>> OSX.
>>> >> >> No Home version or Pro version. Just OSX!. So
>unlike
>>> >> >> Windows users who will sometimes wish they had
>Pro
>>> over
>>> >> >> Home. In the Mac world this is not an issue!.
>>> Everyone
>>> >> >> get's the same thing, even if they do not use
all
>>> the
>>> >> >> features. If MS came out with just a Windows XP
>at
>>> >> >> $129.00 I'm sure alot of people would have still
>>> >> >> upgraded. MS makes enough money off their Office
>>> suite,
>>> >> >> and having Windows XP (Single Version) wouldn't
>have
>>> >> >> broken their bank. God forbid if the bigwigs at
>MS
>>> have
>>> >> >> to live like all the rest of us for a while. To
>me
>>> Mac
>>> >> >> OSX is far superior in every respect to Windows
>XP
>>> Home
>>> >> >> edition. Windows XP Pro would be more similar
>>> feature
>>> >> >> wise. When I sit down at the computer and watch
a
>>> >> >> MacWorld and see all the great new features
being
>>> added
>>> >> >> to Mac OSX, I sit back and wish my only one
>computer
>>> >> with
>>> >> >> Windows XP Home Edition was just as powerful and
>>> >> feature
>>> >> >> rich as Mac OSX. Now you know why I hate Home
>>> >> Editions!.
>>> >> >> For everyone!. Next time I will do things
>>> differently!.
>>> >> >> Computers are a hobby of mine!.
>>> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >Why? I have Pro on my desktop and HE on two
>other
>>> >> >> machines.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Care to explain why, in a home situation, Pro
>is so
>>> >> >> superior? Exactly what
>>> >> >> >does HE "lack" that Pro offers to the home user
>>> that
>>> >> is
>>> >> >> a must have?
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >> >> >Associate Expert
>>> >> >> >http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> >> >> ault.asp
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >"John" > wrote in message
>>> >> >> ...
>>> >> >> >> Get Pro!!!!!!. The Home edition is a featured
>>> >> stripped
>>> >> >> >> version of Windows XP Professional. Buy Pro
>and
>>> get
>>> >> a
>>> >> >> >> full operating system!!!. You won't regret
it
>in
>>> the
>>> >> >> >> future!.
>>> >> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> >> >You don't need Pro. I have HE SP1 working
>fine
>>> on
>>> >> my
>>> >> >> >> laptop with USB2.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >Are you running SP1 yet? If not, do so. Make
>>> sure
>>> >> you
>>> >> >> >> download the full 130M
>>> >> >> >> >and do the upgrade locally. Do not try to
do
>a
>>> web
>>> >> >> based
>>> >> >> >> SP1 install.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >--
>>> >> >> >> >Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
>>> >> >> >> >Associate Expert
>>> >> >> >>
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
>>> >> >> >> >Any technology distinguishable from magic is
>>> >> >> >> insufficiently advanced.
>>> >> >> >> >http://www.dts-l.org
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/de
f
>>> >> >> >> ault.asp
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >"Dave Reynolds" > wrote
in
>>> >> message
>>> >> >> >> >news:028d01c352f7$a8f2f3c0
...
>>> >> >> >> >> With xp home my hp computer is unable to
>read
>>> my
>>> >> usb
>>> >> >> >> 2.0
>>> >> >> >> >> compact flash reader. I tried to install
>the
>>> >> >> software
>>> >> >> >> >> that came with the card(s) but no luck.
>Cards
>>> >> work
>>> >> >> on
>>> >> >> >> all
>>> >> >> >> >> other computers I use so the cards are
>fine.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Gave up and purchased a xp pro upgrade.
>>> Unable
>>> >> to
>>> >> >> >> install
>>> >> >> >> >> due to a software conflict (nvidia). I
>think
>>> >> this
>>> >> >> >> runs my
>>> >> >> >> >> dvd player? Regardless, did a download
to
>the
>>> >> >> latest
>>> >> >> >> >> version and still unable to install xp pro
>>> >> because
>>> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> same conflict. I'm still not sure that
>after
>>> >> >> >> performing
>>> >> >> >> >> the installation I'll be able to read my
>>> compact
>>> >> >> flash
>>> >> >> >> >> card. The ports work because my printer
>works
>>> >> (hp
>>> >> >> >> 2110)
>>> >> >> >> >> and I can download directly from my camera
>>> (Canon
>>> >> >> D10).
>>> >> >> >> >> The camera download is painfully slow
>taking
>>> many
>>> >> >> hours
>>> >> >> >> >> with the large files.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Help! Microsoft doesn't seem to want to
>and
>>> HP
>>> >> >> usually
>>> >> >> >> >> wastes time without solving anything.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> dave
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >.
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >.
>>> >> >
>>> >
>>> >.
>>> >
>>
>>
>>.
>>
>.
>

[Ted]

"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message =
...

> clueless but rather elequoant in their ignorance?

Bwahahahahahahaha! I normally don't pick on spelling, but if you're =
trying to prove a point, when you were so far off the spellng of =
"eloquent", in calling on another ignorant to that description!

[Walter Clayton]

Yep. :-)

Spiel chequers make a person lazy.

--
Walter Clayton - MS MVP(WinXP)
Associate Expert
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
http://www.dts-l.org
http://support.microsoft.com/servicedesks/fileversion/default.asp


"Ted" <"""""'"""""""> wrote in message
s.com...

"Walter Clayton" > wrote in message
...

> clueless but rather elequoant in their ignorance?

Bwahahahahahahaha! I normally don't pick on spelling, but if you're trying
to prove a point, when you were so far off the spellng of "eloquent", in
calling on another ignorant to that description!

[Carl]

probably can't do an upgrade on that OEM machine....you better do some
research before tryin stuff like that.....


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