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Adam
December 5th 03, 07:15 AM
I have XP home on my computer. I also have a XP pro full
edition cd. Is there any way to upgrade my xp home to pro
without starting all over?

Ken Blake
December 5th 03, 07:15 AM
"Adam" > wrote in message
...

> I have XP home on my computer. I also have a XP pro full
> edition cd. Is there any way to upgrade my xp home to pro
> without starting all over?


Yes. You can upgrade from Home to Professional using either the
XP Upgrade CD or the Full CD. However make sure that what you
have is really the Full CD, not an OEM CD, which many people
confuse with the Full version. The OEM CD will *not* do an
upgrade.

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Frank
December 5th 03, 07:15 AM
"Ken Blake" > wrote in message
...
| "Adam" > wrote in message
| ...
|
| > I have XP home on my computer. I also have a XP pro full
| > edition cd. Is there any way to upgrade my xp home to pro
| > without starting all over?
|
| Yes. You can upgrade from Home to Professional using either the
| XP Upgrade CD or the Full CD. However make sure that what you
| have is really the Full CD, not an OEM CD, which many people
| confuse with the Full version. The OEM CD will *not* do an
| upgrade.
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| Ken Blake
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Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is NOTot
valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional disc into an
old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP Pro
into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you just have
to follow instructions.

Have a nice day.

bbunny

sqr
December 5th 03, 07:15 AM
He is right as you as there are three OEM versions.

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"Frank" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Ken Blake" > wrote in message
> ...
> | "Adam" > wrote in message
> | ...
> |
> | > I have XP home on my computer. I also have a XP pro full
> | > edition cd. Is there any way to upgrade my xp home to pro
> | > without starting all over?
> |
> | Yes. You can upgrade from Home to Professional using either the
> | XP Upgrade CD or the Full CD. However make sure that what you
> | have is really the Full CD, not an OEM CD, which many people
> | confuse with the Full version. The OEM CD will *not* do an
> | upgrade.
> | --
> | Ken Blake
> | Please reply to the newsgroup
>
> Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is NOTot
> valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional disc into an
> old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP Pro
> into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you just have
> to follow instructions.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> bbunny
>
>

Ron Martell
December 5th 03, 07:15 AM
"Frank" > wrote:


>Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is NOTot
>valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional disc into an
>old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP Pro
>into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you just have
>to follow instructions.
>
>Have a nice day.
>
>bbunny
>

Where was that OEM version from? Which computer company?


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Ted
December 5th 03, 07:16 AM
"Ron Martell" > wrote in message =
...
> "Frank" > wrote:
>=20
>=20
> >Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is NOTot
> >valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional disc into an
> >old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP Pro
> >into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you just =
have
> >to follow instructions.
> >
> >Have a nice day.
> >
> >bbunny
> >
>=20
> Where was that OEM version from? Which computer company?
>=20
>=20

Why does it matter where the disk comes from? If it can upgrade, etc, =
then that is what matters.

Ron Martell
December 5th 03, 07:18 AM
"Ted" <"""""'"""""""> wrote:

>
>Why does it matter where the disk comes from? If it can upgrade, etc, then that is what matters.

I was curious as to which OEM or OEMs are still using custom produced
full install CDs for Windows XP. Microsoft is discouraging this
practice and pushing the OEMs towards using only System Recovery CDs
or hidden System Recovery Partitions on the hard drive.

I know for an absolute certainty that the generic OEM full install CD
for Windows XP sold by Microsoft to small builders/assemblers will not
do an upgrade install, having tried it on a number of occasions.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Ted
December 5th 03, 07:18 AM
"Ron Martell" > wrote in message =
...
> "Ted" <"""""'"""""""> wrote:
>=20
> >
> >Why does it matter where the disk comes from? If it can upgrade, etc, =
then that is what matters.
>=20
> I was curious as to which OEM or OEMs are still using custom produced
> full install CDs for Windows XP. Microsoft is discouraging this
> practice and pushing the OEMs towards using only System Recovery CDs
> or hidden System Recovery Partitions on the hard drive.
>=20
> I know for an absolute certainty that the generic OEM full install CD
> for Windows XP sold by Microsoft to small builders/assemblers will not
> do an upgrade install, having tried it on a number of occasions.
>=20


The OEM Pro Upgrade I got from Dell does upgrade. It was part of a deal =
when I bought the PC (pre-final XP release), where I got XP, when it was =
released as an upgrade deal. Upgraded my 2000 with no problem.

Frank
December 5th 03, 07:23 AM
Ron Martell wrote:
| "Frank" > wrote:
|
|
|| Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is NOTot
|| valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional disc into an
|| old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP Pro
|| into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you just
|| have to follow instructions.
||
|| Have a nice day.
||
|| bbunny
||
|
| Where was that OEM version from? Which computer company?
|
|
| Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

I bought it along with my Mainboard, CPU, memory and HDD, from
Googlegear.

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Frank
December 5th 03, 07:23 AM
Ron Martell wrote:
| "Ted" <"""""'"""""""> wrote:
|
||
|| Why does it matter where the disk comes from? If it can upgrade,
|| etc, then that is what matters.
|
| I was curious as to which OEM or OEMs are still using custom produced
| full install CDs for Windows XP. Microsoft is discouraging this
| practice and pushing the OEMs towards using only System Recovery CDs
| or hidden System Recovery Partitions on the hard drive.
|
| I know for an absolute certainty that the generic OEM full install CD
| for Windows XP sold by Microsoft to small builders/assemblers will not
| do an upgrade install, having tried it on a number of occasions.
|
|
| Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

Well mine sure did.....

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Frank
December 5th 03, 07:23 AM
Ted" <"""""'"""""" wrote:
| "Ron Martell" > wrote in message
| ...
|| "Ted" <"""""'"""""""> wrote:

||| Why does it matter where the disk comes from? If it can upgrade,
||| etc, then that is what matters.
||
|| I was curious as to which OEM or OEMs are still using custom produced
|| full install CDs for Windows XP. Microsoft is discouraging this
|| practice and pushing the OEMs towards using only System Recovery CDs
|| or hidden System Recovery Partitions on the hard drive.
||
|| I know for an absolute certainty that the generic OEM full install CD
|| for Windows XP sold by Microsoft to small builders/assemblers will
|| not
|| do an upgrade install, having tried it on a number of occasions.

| The OEM Pro Upgrade I got from Dell does upgrade. It was part of a
| deal when I bought the PC (pre-final XP release), where I got XP,
| when it was released as an upgrade deal. Upgraded my 2000 with no
| problem.

The _MVP_ simply has _OEM_ mixed up with _propriatory_.....



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Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 07:25 AM
Ted" <"""""'"""""" wrote:
> "Ron Martell" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Ted" <"""""'"""""""> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why does it matter where the disk comes from? If it can upgrade,
>>> etc, then that is what matters.
>>
>> I was curious as to which OEM or OEMs are still using custom produced
>> full install CDs for Windows XP. Microsoft is discouraging this
>> practice and pushing the OEMs towards using only System Recovery CDs
>> or hidden System Recovery Partitions on the hard drive.
>>
>> I know for an absolute certainty that the generic OEM full install CD
>> for Windows XP sold by Microsoft to small builders/assemblers will
>> not
>> do an upgrade install, having tried it on a number of occasions.
>>
>
>
> The OEM Pro Upgrade I got from Dell does upgrade. It was part of a
> deal when I bought the PC (pre-final XP release), where I got XP,
> when it was released as an upgrade deal. Upgraded my 2000 with no
> problem.

OEM Pro Upgrade is the key to your statement. Try to upgrade with a OEM XP
Pro full version. I don't believe you can purchase the OEM upgrade version
with qualifying hardware.
I believe these CD's were offered to people who purchased PC's prior to the
release of XP and were offered upgrades to XP as an incentive. I would
suspect they were really relabeled retail XP upgrade versions or customized
retail upgrade versions with bios locking added.
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Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 07:25 AM
Frank wrote:
> Ron Martell wrote:
>> "Frank" > wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is NOTot
>>> valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional disc into
>>> an old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP Pro
>>> into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you just
>>> have to follow instructions.
>>>
>>> Have a nice day.
>>>
>>> bbunny
>>>
>>
>> Where was that OEM version from? Which computer company?
>>
>>
>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>
> I bought it along with my Mainboard, CPU, memory and HDD, from
> Googlegear.

Just checked at Googlgear, and I don't see a OEM XP upgrade version offered.
The only thing I see is the OEM full version. Did your copy come in a box or
shrink-wrap? From their description, the OEM XP version they offer will only
do clean installs. Link supplied below.
http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=604631
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Frank
December 5th 03, 07:30 AM
Michael Stevens wrote:
| Frank wrote:
|| Ron Martell wrote:
||| "Frank" > wrote:
|||
|||
|||| Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is
|||| NOTot valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional
|||| disc into
|||| an old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP
|||| Pro into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you
|||| just have to follow instructions.
||||
|||| Have a nice day.
||||
|||| bbunny
||||
|||
||| Where was that OEM version from? Which computer company?
|||
|||
||| Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
||
|| I bought it along with my Mainboard, CPU, memory and HDD, from
|| Googlegear.
|
| Just checked at Googlgear, and I don't see a OEM XP upgrade version
| offered. The only thing I see is the OEM full version. Did your copy
| come in a box or shrink-wrap? From their description, the OEM XP
| version they offer will only do clean installs. Link supplied below.
| http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=604631

My apologies to Mike and Ron. I believe that this is a matter of
semantics. Using an OEM WXP one cannot upgrade saving one's
personal settings and data. With W98SE installed when I boot with
the OEM CD it gives me the option to delete the partition and reformat
for a clean install. If I insert the WXPOEM_EN cdrom with W98SE
running it only gives me the option for a clean install (advanced). OK.
Then XP does its thing and another dialog box comes up asking if I
want to install to C: partitioned FAT 32 or D: unpartitioned. I chose
D: and then wound up with a duel boot system.

I guess in a _way_ I have _upgraded_ from W98SE to WINXPPRO,
using the OEM disk.

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Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 07:31 AM
Frank wrote:
> Michael Stevens wrote:
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Ron Martell wrote:
>>>> "Frank" > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ken I keep seeing this information about OEM CD's. ***This is
>>>>> NOTot valid information*** I just put my OEM XP Professional
>>>>> disc into
>>>>> an old P2 machine and it upgraded win98 SE. When you put the XP
>>>>> Pro into the CD drive it will ask what you want to do and then you
>>>>> just have to follow instructions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a nice day.
>>>>>
>>>>> bbunny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where was that OEM version from? Which computer company?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>>>
>>> I bought it along with my Mainboard, CPU, memory and HDD, from
>>> Googlegear.
>>
>> Just checked at Googlgear, and I don't see a OEM XP upgrade version
>> offered. The only thing I see is the OEM full version. Did your copy
>> come in a box or shrink-wrap? From their description, the OEM XP
>> version they offer will only do clean installs. Link supplied below.
>> http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=604631
>
> My apologies to Mike and Ron. I believe that this is a matter of
> semantics. Using an OEM WXP one cannot upgrade saving one's
> personal settings and data. With W98SE installed when I boot with
> the OEM CD it gives me the option to delete the partition and reformat
> for a clean install. If I insert the WXPOEM_EN cdrom with W98SE
> running it only gives me the option for a clean install (advanced).
> OK. Then XP does its thing and another dialog box comes up asking if I
> want to install to C: partitioned FAT 32 or D: unpartitioned. I chose
> D: and then wound up with a duel boot system.
>
> I guess in a _way_ I have _upgraded_ from W98SE to WINXPPRO,
> using the OEM disk.

That is the same as a clean install, and it does upgrade the system, but not
the OS. So the correct answer is the OEM version will not upgrade a
previous qualifying Windows and will only do clean installs.
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Frank
December 5th 03, 07:32 AM
|| My apologies to Mike and Ron. I believe that this is a matter of
|| semantics. Using an OEM WXP one cannot upgrade saving one's
|| personal settings and data. With W98SE installed when I boot with
|| the OEM CD it gives me the option to delete the partition and
|| reformat for a clean install. If I insert the WXPOEM_EN cdrom with
|| W98SE
|| running it only gives me the option for a clean install (advanced).
|| OK. Then XP does its thing and another dialog box comes up asking if
|| I want to install to C: partitioned FAT 32 or D: unpartitioned. I
|| chose
|| D: and then wound up with a duel boot system.
||
|| I guess in a _way_ I have _upgraded_ from W98SE to WINXPPRO,
|| using the OEM disk.
|
| That is the same as a clean install, and it does upgrade the system,
| but not the OS. So the correct answer is the OEM version will not
| upgrade a previous qualifying Windows and will only do clean installs.

That was the reason for my apologies to you fellows. I see time after
time that an OEM version will not install except on one PC. This is
true for Proprietory OEM's but not OEM. I can put the same OEM
on any of the 4 PC's that I have here. I cannot _activate_ it but once,
but it will install.

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Michael Stevens
December 5th 03, 07:33 AM
Frank wrote:
>>> My apologies to Mike and Ron. I believe that this is a matter of
>>> semantics. Using an OEM WXP one cannot upgrade saving one's
>>> personal settings and data. With W98SE installed when I boot with
>>> the OEM CD it gives me the option to delete the partition and
>>> reformat for a clean install. If I insert the WXPOEM_EN cdrom with
>>> W98SE
>>> running it only gives me the option for a clean install (advanced).
>>> OK. Then XP does its thing and another dialog box comes up asking if
>>> I want to install to C: partitioned FAT 32 or D: unpartitioned. I
>>> chose
>>> D: and then wound up with a duel boot system.
>>>
>>> I guess in a _way_ I have _upgraded_ from W98SE to WINXPPRO,
>>> using the OEM disk.
>>
>> That is the same as a clean install, and it does upgrade the system,
>> but not the OS. So the correct answer is the OEM version will not
>> upgrade a previous qualifying Windows and will only do clean
>> installs.
>
> That was the reason for my apologies to you fellows. I see time after
> time that an OEM version will not install except on one PC. This is
> true for Proprietory OEM's but not OEM. I can put the same OEM
> on any of the 4 PC's that I have here. I cannot _activate_ it but
> once, but it will install.

Yes, this is true, but what does this have to do will whether the OEM CD
will upgrade a previous version of Windows?
I am not one of the "fellows" that gives that information, and not all OEM
labeled XP CD's are customized and will install on any computer compatible
with XP same as the generic OEM, but it is a violation of the OEM EULA to do
so.
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Icecube
May 19th 05, 11:35 PM
boot up the computer with xp home.

From the desk top

Insert xp pro cd and the menu will pop up

select install xp

select upgrade

type in product key and you are on your way


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