Which XP 64-bit should I buy?

[VB Newbie]

I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade to XP
64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However, I've
been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.

I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft Windows
XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade version but
can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me, so I
held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could lead
me in another direction, it would be appreciated.

Sicerely,
Joe Shaver

[John Barnett MVP]

A full version will perform both a clean install or an upgrade. With a clean
install you just put the CD into the CD ROM and reboot your pc (see
http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_install_windows_xp.htm on my
website)

To upgrade you boot your system to the desktop (windows 98,ME) and then
install (upgrade) from there.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
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"VB Newbie" > wrote in message
...
>I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade to
>XP
> 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However, I've
> been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
>
> I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft
> Windows
> XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade version
> but
> can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me, so
> I
> held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could
> lead
> me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
>
> Sicerely,
> Joe Shaver

[VB Newbie]

So basically wherever I can find an OEM Full version I should be golden?

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

> A full version will perform both a clean install or an upgrade. With a clean
> install you just put the CD into the CD ROM and reboot your pc (see
> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_install_windows_xp.htm on my
> website)
>
> To upgrade you boot your system to the desktop (windows 98,ME) and then
> install (upgrade) from there.
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message
> ...
> >I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade to
> >XP
> > 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However, I've
> > been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
> >
> > I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft
> > Windows
> > XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade version
> > but
> > can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me, so
> > I
> > held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could
> > lead
> > me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
> >
> > Sicerely,
> > Joe Shaver
>
>

[mikeyhsd]

check out surplus computers for their pricing.



"VB Newbie" > wrote in message ...
I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade to XP
64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However, I've
been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.

I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft Windows
XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade version but
can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me, so I
held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could lead
me in another direction, it would be appreciated.

Sicerely,
Joe Shaver

[peter]

No.........an OEM version is different.
You did not mention OEM in your original post.......John gave you the answer
for a Full Retail version which you had inquired about.
An OEM version needs nothing on the drive it will be installed to...it will
not do upgrades...it will only fresh install.
peter
"VB Newbie" > wrote in message
...
> So basically wherever I can find an OEM Full version I should be golden?
>
> "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>
>> A full version will perform both a clean install or an upgrade. With a
>> clean
>> install you just put the CD into the CD ROM and reboot your pc (see
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_install_windows_xp.htm on my
>> website)
>>
>> To upgrade you boot your system to the desktop (windows 98,ME) and then
>> install (upgrade) from there.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the
>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail/post..
>>
>> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade
>> >to
>> >XP
>> > 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However,
>> > I've
>> > been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
>> >
>> > I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft
>> > Windows
>> > XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade
>> > version
>> > but
>> > can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me,
>> > so
>> > I
>> > held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could
>> > lead
>> > me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Sicerely,
>> > Joe Shaver
>>
>>

[John Barnett MVP]

In your original email you mentioned 'full edition' you omitted to mention
that you were thinking of an OEM copy. My reply to you covered a full retail
copy, not OEM.

OEM copies will clean install, but they will not upgrade.


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
mail/post..


"VB Newbie" > wrote in message
...
> So basically wherever I can find an OEM Full version I should be golden?
>
> "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
>
>> A full version will perform both a clean install or an upgrade. With a
>> clean
>> install you just put the CD into the CD ROM and reboot your pc (see
>> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_install_windows_xp.htm on my
>> website)
>>
>> To upgrade you boot your system to the desktop (windows 98,ME) and then
>> install (upgrade) from there.
>>
>> --
>> John Barnett MVP
>> Associate Expert
>> Windows - Shell/User
>>
>> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
>> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>>
>> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
>> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
>> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
>> for
>> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
>> the
>> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
>> mail/post..
>>
>> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade
>> >to
>> >XP
>> > 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However,
>> > I've
>> > been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
>> >
>> > I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft
>> > Windows
>> > XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade
>> > version
>> > but
>> > can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me,
>> > so
>> > I
>> > held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could
>> > lead
>> > me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Sicerely,
>> > Joe Shaver
>>
>>

[VB Newbie]

I apologize for getting mixed up with the versions, but after looking at some
of the editions offered out there, some of the titles read something to the
effect of XP 64-bit OEM Full Edition, which is why I was confused. So I
thank you all kindly for responding.

"John Barnett MVP" wrote:

> In your original email you mentioned 'full edition' you omitted to mention
> that you were thinking of an OEM copy. My reply to you covered a full retail
> copy, not OEM.
>
> OEM copies will clean install, but they will not upgrade.
>
>
> --
> John Barnett MVP
> Associate Expert
> Windows - Shell/User
>
> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
>
> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> mail/post..
>
>
> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message
> ...
> > So basically wherever I can find an OEM Full version I should be golden?
> >
> > "John Barnett MVP" wrote:
> >
> >> A full version will perform both a clean install or an upgrade. With a
> >> clean
> >> install you just put the CD into the CD ROM and reboot your pc (see
> >> http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org/how_do_i_install_windows_xp.htm on my
> >> website)
> >>
> >> To upgrade you boot your system to the desktop (windows 98,ME) and then
> >> install (upgrade) from there.
> >>
> >> --
> >> John Barnett MVP
> >> Associate Expert
> >> Windows - Shell/User
> >>
> >> Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
> >> Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org
> >>
> >> The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
> >> kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
> >> reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
> >> for
> >> any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of
> >> the
> >> use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in this
> >> mail/post..
> >>
> >> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade
> >> >to
> >> >XP
> >> > 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However,
> >> > I've
> >> > been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
> >> >
> >> > I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft
> >> > Windows
> >> > XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade
> >> > version
> >> > but
> >> > can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me,
> >> > so
> >> > I
> >> > held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could
> >> > lead
> >> > me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
> >> >
> >> > Sicerely,
> >> > Joe Shaver
> >>
> >>
>
>

[VB Newbie]

Just from doing research, it sounds like I should just go Vista ultimate,
since I can upgrade using 64-bit drivers. I cannot seem to find a link out
there that doesn't have "OEM" and "Full Version" in the same sentence. I
again apologize for the confusion on my end!!

"mikeyhsd" wrote:

> check out surplus computers for their pricing.
>
>
>
> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message ...
> I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade to XP
> 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However, I've
> been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
>
> I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft Windows
> XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade version but
> can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me, so I
> held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could lead
> me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
>
> Sicerely,
> Joe Shaver

[peter]

There is that "upgrade" thing again.........you cannot upgrade a 32bit
operating system to Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
It will need a fresh new install............
peter
"VB Newbie" > wrote in message
...
> Just from doing research, it sounds like I should just go Vista ultimate,
> since I can upgrade using 64-bit drivers. I cannot seem to find a link
> out
> there that doesn't have "OEM" and "Full Version" in the same sentence. I
> again apologize for the confusion on my end!!
>
> "mikeyhsd" wrote:
>
>> check out surplus computers for their pricing.
>>
>>
>>
>> "VB Newbie" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> I finally got my PCIe TV Tuner card in the mail, and now I can upgrade
>> to XP
>> 64-bit to utilize all 4GB of memory I have in my computer. However,
>> I've
>> been trying to figure out which disc set I should buy.
>>
>> I went on http://www.pricewatch.com and saw the following: Microsoft
>> Windows
>> XP Professional 64-bit X64 Edition. Full Edition. NOT an upgrade
>> version but
>> can be used to perform an upgrade. This sounded kinda skeptical to me,
>> so I
>> held off and wanted to ask the field about this. Or, if you guys could
>> lead
>> me in another direction, it would be appreciated.
>>
>> Sicerely,
>> Joe Shaver