The Green Stuff in Defrag Has Gone 'Far Left'

[Whifferdill]

Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green 'unmovable'
portion shown during degrag to be at the far left of the window. Never saw
that before, it's always been near the middle, or scattered. Now it's
one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one of the last
three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I suppose it's alright,
but I'd sure like to know what's causing that all of a sudden.

[Doug]

Don't worry about it. it is OKay.
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"Whifferdill" > wrote in
message ...
> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green
> 'unmovable' portion shown during degrag to be at the far left
> of the window. Never saw that before, it's always been near
> the middle, or scattered. Now it's
> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one
> of the last three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I suppose
> it's alright, but I'd sure like to know what's causing that
> all of a sudden.
>

[Jerry]

The 'green stuff' is usually the swap file.

"Whifferdill" > wrote in message
...
> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green 'unmovable'
> portion shown during degrag to be at the far left of the window. Never
> saw that before, it's always been near the middle, or scattered. Now it's
> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one of the last
> three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I suppose it's
> alright, but I'd sure like to know what's causing that all of a sudden.
>

[Doug]

For sure already yet. It make for more efficient use of
harddrive and speeds up duh computer as the drive doesn't have
to search all over the friggin' place while swapping memory. Now
Whifferdill, is this what you wanted to know?
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Doug W.
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"Jerry" > wrote in message
...
> The 'green stuff' is usually the swap file.
>
> "Whifferdill" > wrote in
> message ...
>> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green
>> 'unmovable' portion shown during degrag to be at the far left
>> of the window. Never saw that before, it's always been near
>> the middle, or scattered. Now it's
>> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one
>> of the last three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
>> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I
>> suppose it's alright, but I'd sure like to know what's
>> causing that all of a sudden.
>>
>
>

[Wesley Vogel]

Green: Most of the clusters are part of a file that cannot be moved from its
current location.

Analysis and defragmentation displays and reports
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_graphic_text_disagree.mspx

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Whifferdill > hunted and pecked:
> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green 'unmovable'
> portion shown during degrag to be at the far left of the window. Never
> saw that before, it's always been near the middle, or scattered. Now it's
> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one of the last
> three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I suppose it's
> alright, but I'd sure like to know what's causing that all of a sudden.

[Whifferdill]

Thanks for the opinions. I've installed XP Pro quite a few times, and it's
never done that before. Now, using the same installation CD, even the same
codes in two cases, the unmovable files exhibit an entirely different
attitude, and pile up at the left end. There's gotta be a reason fellas.
Are your unmovable files all at the far left? Has anyone seen this same
phenomenom?



"Wesley Vogel" > wrote in message
...
> Green: Most of the clusters are part of a file that cannot be moved from
> its current location.
>
> Analysis and defragmentation displays and reports
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_graphic_text_disagree.mspx
>
> --
> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>
> Wes
> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> In ,
> Whifferdill > hunted and pecked:
>> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green 'unmovable'
>> portion shown during degrag to be at the far left of the window. Never
>> saw that before, it's always been near the middle, or scattered. Now
>> it's
>> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one of the last
>> three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
>> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I suppose it's
>> alright, but I'd sure like to know what's causing that all of a sudden.
>

[Doug]

Yes, IT IS NORMAL. Files that are unmoveable like the swap file
are more efficiently accessed if they are at the "left" as you
say. I have pgms that purposely put them there. Don't sweat it.
It is OKAY. If you have problems with this, then post back with
the problem...otherwise you are jousting with the old windmill.

Doug W.
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"Whifferdill" > wrote in
message ...
> Thanks for the opinions. I've installed XP Pro quite a few
> times, and it's never done that before. Now, using the same
> installation CD, even the same codes in two cases, the
> unmovable files exhibit an entirely different attitude, and
> pile up at the left end. There's gotta be a reason fellas.
> Are your unmovable files all at the far left? Has anyone seen
> this same phenomenom?
>
>
>
> "Wesley Vogel" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Green: Most of the clusters are part of a file that cannot be
>> moved from its current location.
>>
>> Analysis and defragmentation displays and reports
>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_graphic_text_disagree.mspx
>>
>> --
>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>
>> Wes
>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>
>> In ,
>> Whifferdill > hunted and
>> pecked:
>>> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green
>>> 'unmovable'
>>> portion shown during degrag to be at the far left of the
>>> window. Never
>>> saw that before, it's always been near the middle, or
>>> scattered. Now it's
>>> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one
>>> of the last
>>> three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
>>> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I
>>> suppose it's
>>> alright, but I'd sure like to know what's causing that all
>>> of a sudden.
>>
>
>

[Wesley Vogel]

I don't know if the GUI picture matters where it shows the green. The files
are at the beginning of the hard disk in reality. Where is the far left on
a circular disk?

The green areas usually represent the paging file, but on NTFS volumes,
green areas might also represent space used by the NTFS change journal and
the NTFS log file.
How Disk Defragmenter Works
http://207.46.196.114/windowsserver/en/library/58b410b9-8de8-459b-a43d-ddebb5ec33981033.mspx?mfr=true

The following files are unmoveable system files. They are always displayed
in green in the defragment analysis display:
* NTFS Master File Table (MFT) and Reserved MFT Zone: Usually contiguous at
the very beginning of a NTFS volume but can become fragmented if many files
and folders are added to a volume.
* NTFS Master File table Mirror (MFTMirr): Usually located in the middle of
a volume and is already contiguous.
* Virtual Memory Paging file: Used for temporarily swapping pages of memory
to disk.
Files Excluded by the Disk Defragmenter Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227350

The Windows 2000 version of Disk Defragmenter displays "green" for what is
called "system files" and on an NTFS formatted volume this is simply the
combination of the MFT, pagefile.sys (if one exists on this volume) and what
is called the "MFT Zone" or reserved space for "MFT Expansion". The
defragmentation report only displays information about the pagefile and MFT
How NTFS Reserves Space for its Master File Table (MFT)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/174619

The following files are permanently excluded from being defragmented:
Bootsect.dos, Safeboot.fs, Safeboot.csv, Safeboot.rsv, Hiberfil.sys,
Memory.dmp, pagefile.sys and Change journal ($UsnJrnl).

Files That You Cannot Defragment
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/c28621675.mspx

Files Excluded by the Disk Defragmenter Tool
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/227350

--
Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In ,
Doug <stand@attention> hunted and pecked:
> Yes, IT IS NORMAL. Files that are unmoveable like the swap file
> are more efficiently accessed if they are at the "left" as you
> say. I have pgms that purposely put them there. Don't sweat it.
> It is OKAY. If you have problems with this, then post back with
> the problem...otherwise you are jousting with the old windmill.
>
> Doug W.
> -
>
> "Whifferdill" > wrote in
> message ...
>> Thanks for the opinions. I've installed XP Pro quite a few
>> times, and it's never done that before. Now, using the same
>> installation CD, even the same codes in two cases, the
>> unmovable files exhibit an entirely different attitude, and
>> pile up at the left end. There's gotta be a reason fellas.
>> Are your unmovable files all at the far left? Has anyone seen
>> this same phenomenom?
>>
>>
>>
>> "Wesley Vogel" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Green: Most of the clusters are part of a file that cannot be
>>> moved from its current location.
>>>
>>> Analysis and defragmentation displays and reports
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_graphic_text_disagree.mspx
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hope this helps. Let us know.
>>>
>>> Wes
>>> MS-MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>
>>> In ,
>>> Whifferdill > hunted and
>>> pecked:
>>>> Lately, a fresh installation of XP Pro has caused the green
>>>> 'unmovable'
>>>> portion shown during degrag to be at the far left of the
>>>> window. Never
>>>> saw that before, it's always been near the middle, or
>>>> scattered. Now it's
>>>> one large block at the far left. It's happened on every one
>>>> of the last
>>>> three 'fresh installations' and I haven't
>>>> changed any procedures, or settings that I know of. I
>>>> suppose it's
>>>> alright, but I'd sure like to know what's causing that all
>>>> of a sudden.