Very slow boot, Home XP

[JE[_2_]]

I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it takes
5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
loads right away, but not the other stuff.

Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig, startup
items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the same for
Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware Detection
service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the desktop
and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service and
it shows it is started automatically.

Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine thing
we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and download
music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the adapter to
recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still does
not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine with
another pc that it is part of the network.

I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.

Thanks much!!!

--
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[Ron Martell]

"JE" > wrote:

>I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it takes
>5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
>loads right away, but not the other stuff.
>
>Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig, startup
>items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the same for
>Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware Detection
>service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the desktop
>and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
>hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service and
>it shows it is started automatically.
>
>Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
>problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine thing
>we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and download
>music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the adapter to
>recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still does
>not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine with
>another pc that it is part of the network.
>
>I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
>Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
>
>Thanks much!!!

What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
Symantec/Norton products.

Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the most
time during the startup:

Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

[JE[_2_]]

"Ron Martell" > wrote in message
...
> "JE" > wrote:
>
>>I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it
>>takes
>>5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
>>loads right away, but not the other stuff.
>>
>>Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig, startup
>>items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the same
>>for
>>Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware Detection
>>service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the desktop
>>and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
>>hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service and
>>it shows it is started automatically.
>>
>>Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
>>problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine
>>thing
>>we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and download
>>music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the adapter
>>to
>>recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still does
>>not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine
>>with
>>another pc that it is part of the network.
>>
>>I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
>>Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
>>
>>Thanks much!!!
>
> What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
> minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
> with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
>
That would be pretty obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

512 ram and 2.0g Mhz....................

Symantec/Norton products.

None of that stuff installed on this machine....
>
> Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the most
> time during the startup:
>
> Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp
>
> Good luck
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
> --
> Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
> On-Line Help Computer Service
> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>
> "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
> has never been in bed with a mosquito."

[Gerry]

JE

What reports in Event Viewer?

Please post copies of all Error and Warning Reports appearing in the
System and Application logs in Event Viewer for the last boot. No
Information Reports please.

You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning
of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description
are important.

HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you
should double click for further information. You can copy using copy
and paste. Often the link will, however, say there is no further
information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double
click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a
button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event
Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of
the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from
Event Viewer.

--



Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



JE wrote:
> "Ron Martell" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "JE" > wrote:
>>
>>> I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that
>>> it takes
>>> 5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop
>>> wallpaper loads right away, but not the other stuff.
>>>
>>> Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig,
>>> startup items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I
>>> did the same for
>>> Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware
>>> Detection service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it
>>> load, the desktop and icons loaded right away, but it still took
>>> around 4 minutes for the hourglass to disappear so we could
>>> proceed. I looked at that service and it shows it is started
>>> automatically. Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things
>>> are one in the
>>> same problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a
>>> routine thing
>>> we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and
>>> download music and since the startup problem has started, we can't
>>> get the adapter to
>>> recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it
>>> still does not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter
>>> does work fine with
>>> another pc that it is part of the network.
>>>
>>> I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS
>>> support Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks much!!!
>>
>> What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
>> minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
>> with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
>>
> That would be pretty obvious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> 512 ram and 2.0g Mhz....................
>
> Symantec/Norton products.
>
> None of that stuff installed on this machine....
>>
>> Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the
>> most time during the startup:
>>
>> Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>> --
>> Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2008)
>> On-Line Help Computer Service
>> http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
>>
>> "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
>> has never been in bed with a mosquito."

[[email protected]]

Do you happen to have a USB external HD attached? If so, how many
partitions?

`
Lady Dungeness
Crabby, but Delicious!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:44:30 -0700, Ron Martell
> wrote:

|"JE" > wrote:
|
|>I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it takes
|>5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
|>loads right away, but not the other stuff.
|>
|>Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig, startup
|>items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the same for
|>Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware Detection
|>service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the desktop
|>and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
|>hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service and
|>it shows it is started automatically.
|>
|>Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
|>problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine thing
|>we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and download
|>music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the adapter to
|>recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still does
|>not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine with
|>another pc that it is part of the network.
|>
|>I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
|>Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
|>
|>Thanks much!!!
|
|What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
|minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
|with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
|Symantec/Norton products.
|
|Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the most
|time during the startup:
|
|Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp
|
|Good luck
|
|Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

[JE[_2_]]

No external drive attached.............



> wrote in message
...
> Do you happen to have a USB external HD attached? If so, how many
> partitions?
>
> `
> Lady Dungeness
> Crabby, but Delicious!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:44:30 -0700, Ron Martell
> > wrote:
>
> |"JE" > wrote:
> |
> |>I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it
> takes
> |>5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
> |>loads right away, but not the other stuff.
> |>
> |>Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig,
> startup
> |>items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the same
> for
> |>Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware
> Detection
> |>service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the
> desktop
> |>and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
> |>hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service
> and
> |>it shows it is started automatically.
> |>
> |>Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
> |>problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine
> thing
> |>we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and
> download
> |>music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the
> adapter to
> |>recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still
> does
> |>not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine
> with
> |>another pc that it is part of the network.
> |>
> |>I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
> |>Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
> |>
> |>Thanks much!!!
> |
> |What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
> |minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
> |with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
> |Symantec/Norton products.
> |
> |Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the most
> |time during the startup:
> |
> |Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp
> |
> |Good luck
> |
> |Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

[JE[_2_]]

Just to clarify the external usb HD, the only thing close to that is an iPod
connected on occasion....

> wrote in message
...
> Do you happen to have a USB external HD attached? If so, how many
> partitions?
>
> `
> Lady Dungeness
> Crabby, but Delicious!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:44:30 -0700, Ron Martell
> > wrote:
>
> |"JE" > wrote:
> |
> |>I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it
> takes
> |>5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
> |>loads right away, but not the other stuff.
> |>
> |>Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig,
> startup
> |>items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the same
> for
> |>Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware
> Detection
> |>service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the
> desktop
> |>and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
> |>hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service
> and
> |>it shows it is started automatically.
> |>
> |>Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
> |>problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine
> thing
> |>we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and
> download
> |>music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the
> adapter to
> |>recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still
> does
> |>not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine
> with
> |>another pc that it is part of the network.
> |>
> |>I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
> |>Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
> |>
> |>Thanks much!!!
> |
> |What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
> |minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
> |with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
> |Symantec/Norton products.
> |
> |Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the most
> |time during the startup:
> |
> |Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp
> |
> |Good luck
> |
> |Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada

[JE[_2_]]

Thanks to everyone who commented on the problem I was having. I found that
there were many problems so I just reinstalled Windows etc.. I never did
come to any conclusion as to what happened.

Thanks!!



"JE" > wrote in message
...
> Just to clarify the external usb HD, the only thing close to that is an
> iPod connected on occasion....
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> Do you happen to have a USB external HD attached? If so, how many
>> partitions?
>>
>> `
>> Lady Dungeness
>> Crabby, but Delicious!
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:44:30 -0700, Ron Martell
>> > wrote:
>>
>> |"JE" > wrote:
>> |
>> |>I have 2 issues with this pc I am working on and the first is that it
>> takes
>> |>5 minutes for the icons and system tray to load. The desktop wallpaper
>> |>loads right away, but not the other stuff.
>> |>
>> |>Prefetch...cleaned, disk-cleanup....done, defrag...done, msconfig,
>> startup
>> |>items were loaded one at a time and no problems, but when I did the
>> same for
>> |>Services, when I loaded those one at a time, the Shell Hardware
>> Detection
>> |>service seemed to be the culprit. When I did not let it load, the
>> desktop
>> |>and icons loaded right away, but it still took around 4 minutes for the
>> |>hourglass to disappear so we could proceed. I looked at that service
>> and
>> |>it shows it is started automatically.
>> |>
>> |>Along with this and I am wondering if the 2 things are one in the same
>> |>problem. We had to reload a wireless usb adapter, which is a routine
>> thing
>> |>we have to do everytime one of the children hookup their iPod and
>> download
>> |>music and since the startup problem has started, we can't get the
>> adapter to
>> |>recognize the internet. I changed it out with a new one and it still
>> does
>> |>not connect, but does talk with the router. The adapter does work fine
>> with
>> |>another pc that it is part of the network.
>> |>
>> |>I would appreciate any suggestions. I found nothing on the MS support
>> |>Knowledge Base that follows along with this problem.
>> |>
>> |>Thanks much!!!
>> |
>> |What are the specs for the system, especially RAM quantity? Your 5
>> |minute bootup time would not be unusual, for example, for a system
>> |with only 128 mb and which was also infested with one or more
>> |Symantec/Norton products.
>> |
>> |Here is a utility which may help you to detect what is taking the most
>> |time during the startup:
>> |
>> |Windows XP Boot logger: http://greatis.com/utilities/bootlogxp
>> |
>> |Good luck
>> |
>> |Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
>
>