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[Steve]

Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a new machine?

steve

[PCyr]

Just make sure you uninstall the old OS. When you go to activate, if it's
been under 120 days, you will most likely have to make a 5 minute,
toll-free, painless call to MS. Just tell them that you switched machines,
and you uninstalled the old OS.

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[PCyr]

Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install to another
machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of ma and pa
shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the specific
computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell ( :-( ),
Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.

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PCyr wrote:
> Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install to another
> machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of ma and pa
> shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the specific
> computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell ( :-( ),
> Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
> If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.
>
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>> Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a new machine?
>>
>> steve

You are wrong. You are referring to BIOS locking which is a fairly common
practice by most of the major manufacturers. However - and this applies to
*ALL* OEM licences, however they were obtained - they are tied to the first
computer they were installed and activated on, whether they came from a
major manufacturer or the computer shop round the corner. Here's the
relevant extract from the OEM agreement.

"The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
product."
"You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this EULA only as
part of a permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE."

The above applies to *ALL* OEM licences, however they were purchased.

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Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition on a
completely different computer?

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> > machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of ma and pa
> > shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the specific
> > computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell ( :-( ),
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> >> Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a new
machine?
> >>
> >> steve
>
> You are wrong. You are referring to BIOS locking which is a fairly common
> practice by most of the major manufacturers. However - and this applies to
> *ALL* OEM licences, however they were obtained - they are tied to the
first
> computer they were installed and activated on, whether they came from a
> major manufacturer or the computer shop round the corner. Here's the
> relevant extract from the OEM agreement.
>
> "The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single integrated
> product."
> "You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this EULA only as
> part of a permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE."
>
> The above applies to *ALL* OEM licences, however they were purchased.
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PCyr wrote:
> Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition on a
> completely different computer?


I never said it wasn't possible, I said you would be (and are) in violation
of the EULA by so doing, and you are advising others to violate the EULA
which is a legally binding contract between you and Microsoft.

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[PCyr]

Wrong, the EULA is an agreement, not a legally binding contract. And I
didn't see anything saying I could move the copy. Now that actually
confuses me. The OEM copies are supposed to be non-transferable, but the
EULA doesn't say that. And I am positive my copy is OEM, because my COA
says that it an OEM copy. As well, shouldn't I not have been able to
activate it? Which I did.

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>
> I never said it wasn't possible, I said you would be (and are) in
violation
> of the EULA by so doing, and you are advising others to violate the EULA
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Oh, and since the other people don't even know what an EULA is, bite your
tongue. I'm not advising others to violate the EULA.

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> > completely different computer?
>
>
> I never said it wasn't possible, I said you would be (and are) in
violation
> of the EULA by so doing, and you are advising others to violate the EULA
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*couldn't move the copy

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> Wrong, the EULA is an agreement, not a legally binding contract. And I
> didn't see anything saying I could move the copy. Now that actually
> confuses me. The OEM copies are supposed to be non-transferable, but the
> EULA doesn't say that. And I am positive my copy is OEM, because my COA
> says that it an OEM copy. As well, shouldn't I not have been able to
> activate it? Which I did.
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> > PCyr wrote:
> > > Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition on a
> > > completely different computer?
> >
> >
> > I never said it wasn't possible, I said you would be (and are) in
> violation
> > of the EULA by so doing, and you are advising others to violate the EULA
> > which is a legally binding contract between you and Microsoft.
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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Assuming a retail license (OEM licenses are *not* transferable),
simply remove WinXP from the computer they are currently on, and
install them onto the new one. If it's been more than 120 days since
you last activated that specific Product Keys, you'll most likely be
able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less,
you might have to make a 5 minute phone
call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


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"Steve" > wrote in message
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> Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a new
machine?
>
> steve
>
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a
motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft has
greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are _permanently_
bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An OEM license,
once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under
any circumstances.

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"PCyr" > wrote in message
...
> Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install to
another
> machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of ma
and pa
> shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the
specific
> computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell (
:-( ),
> Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
> If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.
>
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> ...
> > Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a new
machine?
> >
> > steve
> >
> >
>
>

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Technical feasibility does not mean that you still have not
violated the EULA (reneged on a contract) and violated copyright law.
Stealing is often easy, that doesn't make it right.

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> Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition on a
> completely different computer?
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> ...
> > PCyr wrote:
> > > Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install to
another
> > > machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of
ma and pa
> > > shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the
specific
> > > computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell
( :-( ),
> > > Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
> > > If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.
> > >
> > >
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> > > ------------------
> > > "Steve" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a
new
> machine?
> > >>
> > >> steve
> >
> > You are wrong. You are referring to BIOS locking which is a fairly
common
> > practice by most of the major manufacturers. However - and this
applies to
> > *ALL* OEM licences, however they were obtained - they are tied to
the
> first
> > computer they were installed and activated on, whether they came
from a
> > major manufacturer or the computer shop round the corner. Here's
the
> > relevant extract from the OEM agreement.
> >
> > "The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single
integrated
> > product."
> > "You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this EULA
only as
> > part of a permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE."
> >
> > The above applies to *ALL* OEM licences, however they were
purchased.
> >
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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

"PCyr" > wrote in message
...
> Wrong, the EULA is an agreement, not a legally binding contract.

Completely false. Do you have any case law to support your
position? Until the EULA is declared invalid by a court of law, is,
by default, valid.

> And I didn't see anything saying I could move the copy. Now that
actually confuses me. The > OEM copies are supposed to be
non-transferable, but the EULA doesn't say that.

Then you didn't read it. The OEM EULA is abundantly clear on this
point. "Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, *TRANSFERRED TO* OR USED CONCURRENTLY
ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE is licensed with the HARDWARE as
a single integrated product and may only be used with the HARDWARE."



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> > > Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition
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> > > completely different computer?
> >
> >
> > I never said it wasn't possible, I said you would be (and are) in
> violation
> > of the EULA by so doing, and you are advising others to violate
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[PCyr]

I never said it wasn't valid, I said it wasn't a legally binding contract.
Since in Canada, minors are not allowed to enter into a contract. Yet
minors can buy and run this software.

And I did read the EULA, I even used "find" on it for that phrase. It
doesn't say that, (which I guess it should). It is confusing that my COA
clearly says OEM on it, yet my EULA doesn't appear to be an OEM EULA. :S

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>
> "PCyr" > wrote in message
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> > Wrong, the EULA is an agreement, not a legally binding contract.
>
> Completely false. Do you have any case law to support your
> position? Until the EULA is declared invalid by a court of law, is,
> by default, valid.
>
> > And I didn't see anything saying I could move the copy. Now that
> actually confuses me. The > OEM copies are supposed to be
> non-transferable, but the EULA doesn't say that.
>
> Then you didn't read it. The OEM EULA is abundantly clear on this
> point. "Software as a Component of the Computer - Transfer. THIS
> LICENSE MAY NOT BE SHARED, *TRANSFERRED TO* OR USED CONCURRENTLY
> ON DIFFERENT COMPUTERS. The SOFTWARE is licensed with the HARDWARE as
> a single integrated product and may only be used with the HARDWARE."
>
>
>
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> > > PCyr wrote:
> > > > Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition
> on a
> > > > completely different computer?
> > >
> > >
> > > I never said it wasn't possible, I said you would be (and are) in
> > violation
> > > of the EULA by so doing, and you are advising others to violate
> the EULA
> > > which is a legally binding contract between you and Microsoft.
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[PCyr]

Well mine is OEM, and I did transfer it. Whether or not it was legal, I
don't know, since my EULA doesn't say I can't do that. An if it was
"_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed" then how
did I install it on another computer? (Yes I did remove the other copy BTW.)

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>
> OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally a
> motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft has
> greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are _permanently_
> bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An OEM license,
> once installed, is not legally transferable to another computer under
> any circumstances.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
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>
>
> "PCyr" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install to
> another
> > machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of ma
> and pa
> > shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the
> specific
> > computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell (
> :-( ),
> > Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
> > If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.
> >
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> > ...
> > > Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a new
> machine?
> > >
> > > steve
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Steve]

OK, but I still would like to know how to move a license. My copy is not
OEM. It is on a machine that I will be putting UNIX on.

"Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
...
> Greetings --
>
> Technical feasibility does not mean that you still have not
> violated the EULA (reneged on a contract) and violated copyright law.
> Stealing is often easy, that doesn't make it right.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
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>
>
> "PCyr" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition on a
> > completely different computer?
> >
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> > ...
> > > PCyr wrote:
> > > > Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install to
> another
> > > > machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot of
> ma and pa
> > > > shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to the
> specific
> > > > computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like Dell
> ( :-( ),
> > > > Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
> > > > If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
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> > > > ------------------
> > > > "Steve" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >> Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to a
> new
> > machine?
> > > >>
> > > >> steve
> > >
> > > You are wrong. You are referring to BIOS locking which is a fairly
> common
> > > practice by most of the major manufacturers. However - and this
> applies to
> > > *ALL* OEM licences, however they were obtained - they are tied to
> the
> > first
> > > computer they were installed and activated on, whether they came
> from a
> > > major manufacturer or the computer shop round the corner. Here's
> the
> > > relevant extract from the OEM agreement.
> > >
> > > "The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the HARDWARE as a single
> integrated
> > > product."
> > > "You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this EULA
> only as
> > > part of a permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE."
> > >
> > > The above applies to *ALL* OEM licences, however they were
> purchased.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Perdita X. Dream
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> >
> >
>
>

[Perdita X. Dream]

PCyr wrote:
> Well mine is OEM, and I did transfer it. Whether or not it was legal, I
> don't know, since my EULA doesn't say I can't do that. An if it was
> "_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed" then how
> did I install it on another computer? (Yes I did remove the other copy
BTW.)
>
>
> Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
> Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
> Change the obvious to the obvious.
> ------------------

Then you must have a completely different EULA to everyone else with an OEM
licence (either that or you're reading the retail EULA). I quoted you the
first paragraph of the OEM, Bruce has backed me up, you appear not to want
to learn, so I can't teach you.

You violated the EULA by installing that copy on another system.

Stealing is often easy (I could walk into the corner shop and walk out with
my pockets full of penny sweets, because they cannot afford CCTV, but would
those sweets taste as good as if I had paid for them? Of course they
wouldn't. I'd be stealing from friends - they have two young children to
support and I'd never stop feeling guilty) but that doesn't make it right.

But you carry on breaking the law...doesn't bother us any...


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Steve wrote:
> OK, but I still would like to know how to move a license. My copy is
> not OEM. It is on a machine that I will be putting UNIX on.
>
<snip>

If it is a retail copy, all you need to do is uninstall it on the current
system and reinstall it on the new system. Activate it and your good to go.
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[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

Assuming a retail license, simply remove WinXP from the computer
it is currently on, and install it onto the new one. If it's been
more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key,
you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without
problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone
call.

Here are the facts pertaining to activation:

Piracy Basics - Microsoft Product Activation
http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/basics/activation/

Windows Product Activation (WPA)
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm


Bruce Chambers

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"Steve" > wrote in message
...
> OK, but I still would like to know how to move a license. My copy
is not
> OEM. It is on a machine that I will be putting UNIX on.
>
> "Bruce Chambers" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Greetings --
> >
> > Technical feasibility does not mean that you still have not
> > violated the EULA (reneged on a contract) and violated copyright
law.
> > Stealing is often easy, that doesn't make it right.
> >
> > Bruce Chambers
> >
> > --
> > Help us help you:
> > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> > You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> > having both at once. -- RAH
> >
> >
> > "PCyr" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Then do you mind telling us how I installed my OEM Home Edition
on a
> > > completely different computer?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Member of "Newsgroups are for everyone" (Perdita X. Dream is a
> > > self-righteous net-cop too!)
> > >
> > > Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
> > > Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
> > > Change the obvious to the obvious.
> > > ------------------
> > > "Perdita X. Dream" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > PCyr wrote:
> > > > > Oh one other thing, some OEM copies will not let you install
to
> > another
> > > > > machine. Some people say all OEM copies do that, but a lot
of
> > ma and pa
> > > > > shops (like where I got mine,) won't bother to lock them to
the
> > specific
> > > > > computer. If you got an OEM copy from a big company like
Dell
> > ( :-( ),
> > > > > Compaq or HP, you're most likely SOL.
> > > > > If its a retail version, there won't be a problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
> > > > > Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
> > > > > Change the obvious to the obvious.
> > > > > ------------------
> > > > > "Steve" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >> Is there away to move an XP license from an old machine to
a
> > new
> > > machine?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> steve
> > > >
> > > > You are wrong. You are referring to BIOS locking which is a
fairly
> > common
> > > > practice by most of the major manufacturers. However - and
this
> > applies to
> > > > *ALL* OEM licences, however they were obtained - they are tied
to
> > the
> > > first
> > > > computer they were installed and activated on, whether they
came
> > from a
> > > > major manufacturer or the computer shop round the corner.
Here's
> > the
> > > > relevant extract from the OEM agreement.
> > > >
> > > > "The SOFTWARE PRODUCT is licensed with the HARDWARE as a
single
> > integrated
> > > > product."
> > > > "You may permanently transfer all of your rights under this
EULA
> > only as
> > > > part of a permanent sale or transfer of the HARDWARE."
> > > >
> > > > The above applies to *ALL* OEM licences, however they were
> > purchased.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Perdita X. Dream
> > > >
> > > > Please help us to help you
> > > > http://groups.google.com
> > > > http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm.
> > > > Please note that the reply address is fake.
> > > > Keep all posts to the groups as private requests for
assistance
> > > > (i.e. email/IM) cannot be acknowledged. Thank you.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Pcyr]

OK I will ;-)
"Perdita X. Dream" > wrote in message
...
> PCyr wrote:
> > Well mine is OEM, and I did transfer it. Whether or not it was legal, I
> > don't know, since my EULA doesn't say I can't do that. An if it was
> > "_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed" then
how
> > did I install it on another computer? (Yes I did remove the other copy
> BTW.)
> >
> >
> > Email address is fake to prevent SPAM.
> > Real email address is pcyr2000 AT hotmail DOT com
> > Change the obvious to the obvious.
> > ------------------
>
> Then you must have a completely different EULA to everyone else with an
OEM
> licence (either that or you're reading the retail EULA). I quoted you the
> first paragraph of the OEM, Bruce has backed me up, you appear not to want
> to learn, so I can't teach you.
>
> You violated the EULA by installing that copy on another system.
>
> Stealing is often easy (I could walk into the corner shop and walk out
with
> my pockets full of penny sweets, because they cannot afford CCTV, but
would
> those sweets taste as good as if I had paid for them? Of course they
> wouldn't. I'd be stealing from friends - they have two young children to
> support and I'd never stop feeling guilty) but that doesn't make it right.
>
> But you carry on breaking the law...doesn't bother us any...
>
>
> --
> Perdita X. Dream
>
> Please help us to help you
> http://groups.google.com
> http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> Please note that the reply address is fake.
> Keep all posts to the groups as private requests for assistance
> (i.e. email/IM) cannot be acknowledged. Thank you.
>
>

[Frank]

Pcyr wrote:
| OK I will ;-)
| "Perdita X. Dream" > wrote in message
| ...

|| PCyr wrote:
||| Well mine is OEM, and I did transfer it. Whether or not it was
||| legal, I don't know, since my EULA doesn't say I can't do that. An
||| if it was "_permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are
||| installed" then how did I install it on another computer? (Yes I
||| did remove the other copy BTW.)

|| Then you must have a completely different EULA to everyone else with
|| an OEM licence (either that or you're reading the retail EULA). I
|| quoted you the first paragraph of the OEM, Bruce has backed me up,
|| you appear not to want to learn, so I can't teach you.
||
|| You violated the EULA by installing that copy on another system.
||
|| Stealing is often easy (I could walk into the corner shop and walk
|| out with my pockets full of penny sweets, because they cannot afford
|| CCTV, but would those sweets taste as good as if I had paid for
|| them? Of course they wouldn't. I'd be stealing from friends - they
|| have two young children to support and I'd never stop feeling
|| guilty) but that doesn't make it right.
||
|| But you carry on breaking the law...doesn't bother us any...

Somebody here is making some really heavy duty accusations.
a) It would take a _good_ copyright attorney to even understand
what this EULA is about.
b) Microsoft could care less how many different PC's that you
install their products on as long as it is only _ONE_ at a time.
c) Some propriatory OEM versions are BIOS locked to one
machine.



--
Tampa Bay

[Bruce Chambers]

Greetings --

"Frank" > wrote in message
...

>
> Somebody here is making some really heavy duty accusations.
> a) It would take a _good_ copyright attorney to even understand
> what this EULA is about.

Why? The EULA on my hard drive is in plain English and is quite
easy to understand.


> b) Microsoft could care less how many different PC's that you
> install their products on as long as it is only _ONE_ at a time.

Not quite; to be more accurate, Microsoft does care how many PCs
you install their software on (the more copies you buy the happier
Microsoft gets) as long as you've purchased a legitimate license for
each computer.

> c) Some propriatory OEM versions are BIOS locked to one
> machine.
>

Correct.
>
>
> --
> Tampa Bay
>
>

Bruce Chambers

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