Sleep mode?
 

My win7 has the nice "sleep mode" for temporary
shut-downs.
My wife has a win 8.1 computer fronted with Start 8
(set to simulate win 7). But we find no "sleep"
option. Is this option available in Win 8.1?
If so, how do I make it happen?

Sleep mode?
 

Pfsszxt wrote:
My win7 has the nice "sleep mode" for temporary
shut-downs.
My wife has a win 8.1 computer fronted with Start 8
(set to simulate win 7). But we find no "sleep"
option. Is this option available in Win 8.1?
If so, how do I make it happen?


It's pretty well exactly the same as Windows 10,
and uses Control Panels : Power Options. But
it takes a bit if clicking to find stuff.

https://s12.postimg.org/5hllyi5y5/win81_power.gif

The Hibernate box would not be in that picture,
if you do

powercfg /hibernate off

as that removes C:\hiberfil.sys . So the Power Options
dialog isn't a complete solution. Sometimes, you
actually have to "check what is blocking sleep"
for example, if the tick box is missing. The
tick boxes are available, if elements of ACPI
have not been botched by the user (that's me :-) )
So some of my OSes, have fewer tick boxes at
the bottom than others.

Paul

Sleep mode?
 

On 9/2/2016 9:55 PM, Paul wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:
My win7 has the nice "sleep mode" for temporary
shut-downs.
My wife has a win 8.1 computer fronted with Start 8
(set to simulate win 7). But we find no "sleep"
option. Is this option available in Win 8.1?
If so, how do I make it happen?


It's pretty well exactly the same as Windows 10,
and uses Control Panels : Power Options. But
it takes a bit if clicking to find stuff.

https://s12.postimg.org/5hllyi5y5/win81_power.gif

The Hibernate box would not be in that picture,
if you do

powercfg /hibernate off

as that removes C:\hiberfil.sys . So the Power Options
dialog isn't a complete solution. Sometimes, you
actually have to "check what is blocking sleep"
for example, if the tick box is missing. The
tick boxes are available, if elements of ACPI
have not been botched by the user (that's me :-) )
So some of my OSes, have fewer tick boxes at
the bottom than others.

Paul

Thank you.
hardly seems worth the effort ! :)

Sleep mode?
 

On Sat, 3 Sep 2016 08:53:58 -0500, Pfsszxt wrote:


hardly seems worth the effort ! :)

Take a look at this tutorial on how to add sleep mode to your menu.

http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials...ndows-8-a.html

Sleep mode?
 

On 03/09/2016 14:53, Pfsszxt wrote:
On 9/2/2016 9:55 PM, Paul wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:
My win7 has the nice "sleep mode" for temporary
shut-downs.
My wife has a win 8.1 computer fronted with Start 8
(set to simulate win 7). But we find no "sleep"
option. Is this option available in Win 8.1?
If so, how do I make it happen?


It's pretty well exactly the same as Windows 10,
and uses Control Panels : Power Options. But
it takes a bit if clicking to find stuff.

https://s12.postimg.org/5hllyi5y5/win81_power.gif

The Hibernate box would not be in that picture,
if you do

powercfg /hibernate off

as that removes C:\hiberfil.sys . So the Power Options
dialog isn't a complete solution. Sometimes, you
actually have to "check what is blocking sleep"
for example, if the tick box is missing. The
tick boxes are available, if elements of ACPI
have not been botched by the user (that's me :-) )
So some of my OSes, have fewer tick boxes at
the bottom than others.

Paul

Thank you.
hardly seems worth the effort ! :)

As I see it the main reason to disable hibernation and get rid of
hiberfil.sys is that it's a huge file and it wastes a lot of space if
you don't really need it.

Also hibernation, and coming of of hibernation are often very slow on
modern PCs with many GB of RAM.

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

Sleep mode?
 

Brian Gregory wrote:
On 03/09/2016 14:53, Pfsszxt wrote:
On 9/2/2016 9:55 PM, Paul wrote:
Pfsszxt wrote:
My win7 has the nice "sleep mode" for temporary
shut-downs.
My wife has a win 8.1 computer fronted with Start 8
(set to simulate win 7). But we find no "sleep"
option. Is this option available in Win 8.1?
If so, how do I make it happen?


It's pretty well exactly the same as Windows 10,
and uses Control Panels : Power Options. But
it takes a bit if clicking to find stuff.

https://s12.postimg.org/5hllyi5y5/win81_power.gif

The Hibernate box would not be in that picture,
if you do

powercfg /hibernate off

as that removes C:\hiberfil.sys . So the Power Options
dialog isn't a complete solution. Sometimes, you
actually have to "check what is blocking sleep"
for example, if the tick box is missing. The
tick boxes are available, if elements of ACPI
have not been botched by the user (that's me :-) )
So some of my OSes, have fewer tick boxes at
the bottom than others.

Paul

Thank you.
hardly seems worth the effort ! :)

As I see it the main reason to disable hibernation and get rid of
hiberfil.sys is that it's a huge file and it wastes a lot of space if
you don't really need it.

Also hibernation, and coming of of hibernation are often very slow on
modern PCs with many GB of RAM.


Yes and no.

For SSD users, a 48GB hiberfil.sys taking up disk space is a huge waste.
For users who wanted a cheap 128GB SSD drive, that's taking up a fair
chunk of it. So one user raised the "wasting space" issue for
his situation.

*******

On the other hand, the write and read aspect, depends on
the amount of RAM being used in the session. If, on purpose,
you fill memory with random ones and zeros, that SSD is going
to need all 48GB written. If, on the other hand, you're sitting
idle in the desktop, there might only be one or two gigabytes
of writes. And then, on recovering from hibernate, there would
be only one or two gigabytes of reads.

There are hardly any situations for average users, that go "worst case"
all the time. There are some things you could do, to "dirty up
the RAM" and make it take forever. You'll know them when
you see them :-)

For my usage pattern, turning off hibernation is a "multi-boot
friendly setting". It has prevented CHKDSK activity that
shouldn't have been happening, when booting between different
Windows OSes (i.e. a Win7 hard drive, a Win8 hard drive, a
Win10 hard drive, booting one OS upsets file system integrity
on the other disks sitting in the box). So one of my purposes
in disabling mine, is I never want to see another unnecessary
CHKDSK again. And I've been largely successful at that.
Not only am I saving space (speeding up my Macrium backup
time), but I'm also preventing CHKDSK problems with that
setting.

Paul