Win 10 nag screen
 

Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?
--
Best regards,

Neil

Win 10 nag screen
 

Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

Yes. I've done it twice, and it worked on both occasions.
I had a few months' peace between the two, before MS sneaked it in again.

Ed

Win 10 nag screen
 

Neil wrote:

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move.

We move!
(Warcraft II)

Win 10 nag screen
 

On 10/15/2015 4:31 PM, Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

I have had good luck with the GWX Control Panel found at;

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html

It lets you pick what it does from the menu, or nothing if you choose to
exit out of it.

Much better than those point and shoot programs that don't let you see
what it will affect before it actually gets destructive.

I have used it on W7 and W8 machines and it seems to do what it says.

Should you later want to actually install W10 you can run it again and
undue what you have blocked. If you actually deleted the download
folders mentioned, if they even exist on your machine, you can use the
Media Creation tool to install from.

Win 10 nag screen
 

Neil wrote on 10/15/2015 5:31 PM:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

Because of this:
*** Microsoft mistakenly allows Windows 10 upgrade to download
automatically on Windows 7 and 8 ***

http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-...ndows-7-and-8/


Then:
If using a fully updated [1] Win 7 or 8x Pro it might be wise to use
the Group Policy option that disables an o/s upgrade.
Gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components
/ Windows Update

Enable setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows
through Windows Update

[1] Note the GPO approach has pre-requisite Windows Update client engine
KB's for 7/8x
- some end-users have recommended not installing these WU client KB's
under the guise of MSFT spying/telemetry etc in prep for Win10.

More info:

http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/n...s-normal-users



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Win 10 nag screen
 

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:31:43 -0400, Neil wrote:

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

In my case (under W7), yes. You should uninstall it and then hide.
However, M$ will probably try to offer it again the next Patch Tuesday,
so you should turn automatic updates off to prevent this.

--
s|b

Win 10 nag screen
 

On 10/16/2015 2:57 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Neil wrote on 10/15/2015 5:31 PM:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

Because of this:
*** Microsoft mistakenly allows Windows 10 upgrade to download
automatically on Windows 7 and 8 ***

http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-...ndows-7-and-8/

The "mistake" appears to be that MS thinks we all want Windows 10 at
this point in time. Instituting this action takes too much involvement
from too many programmers to be anything other than intentional.


Then:
If using a fully updated [1] Win 7 or 8x Pro it might be wise to use
the Group Policy option that disables an o/s upgrade.
Gpedit.msc
Computer Configuration / Administrative Templates / Windows Components
/ Windows Update

Enable setting: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows
through Windows Update

[1] Note the GPO approach has pre-requisite Windows Update client engine
KB's for 7/8x
- some end-users have recommended not installing these WU client KB's
under the guise of MSFT spying/telemetry etc in prep for Win10.

More info:

http://windowsitpro.com/windows-10/n...s-normal-users

Thanks, Winston. I don't have a lot of faith in the notion that MS won't
work around these issues in the near future. I don't know why MS thinks
it's acceptable to require users to read volumes of obtuse writing about
each of the hundreds of "updates" in order to manage their systems.
--
Best regards,

Neil

Win 10 nag screen
 

On 10/15/2015 5:36 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

Yes. I've done it twice, and it worked on both occasions.
I had a few months' peace between the two, before MS sneaked it in again.

Twice in 3 months... what a waste of time that MS is imposing on us.

--
Best regards,

Neil

Win 10 nag screen
 

On 10/15/2015 7:18 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 10/15/2015 4:31 PM, Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

I have had good luck with the GWX Control Panel found at;

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html


It lets you pick what it does from the menu, or nothing if you choose to
exit out of it.

Much better than those point and shoot programs that don't let you see
what it will affect before it actually gets destructive.

I have used it on W7 and W8 machines and it seems to do what it says.

Should you later want to actually install W10 you can run it again and
undue what you have blocked. If you actually deleted the download
folders mentioned, if they even exist on your machine, you can use the
Media Creation tool to install from.


Thanks for the pointers. I'm sure that many would find this approach
helpful, but I don't want another layer of programs running in the
background. I don't know when or if I'll update to Windows 10, since all
I've seen so far presents additional management burdens with no real
improvements in functionality.

--
Best regards,

Neil

Win 10 nag screen
 

Am 16.10.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Neil:
The "mistake" appears to be that MS thinks we all want
Windows 10 at this point in time.


May I change your sentence?
The "mistake" appears to be that MS thinks we all MUST want
Windows 10 at this point in time.

Win 10 nag screen
 

Jonas Klein wrote on 10.16.2015 :
Am 16.10.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Neil:
The "mistake" appears to be that MS thinks we all want
Windows 10 at this point in time.


May I change your sentence?
The "mistake" appears to be that MS thinks we all MUST want Windows 10 at
this point in time.

Allow me to edit,

The "mistake" appears to be that MS wants us all to have Windows 10 and
doesn't give a **** what the customer wants.

Yes, that looks just right.

Win 10 nag screen
 

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:26:13 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 10/15/2015 7:18 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 10/15/2015 4:31 PM, Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

I have had good luck with the GWX Control Panel found at;

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html


It lets you pick what it does from the menu, or nothing if you choose to
exit out of it.

Much better than those point and shoot programs that don't let you see
what it will affect before it actually gets destructive.

I have used it on W7 and W8 machines and it seems to do what it says.

Should you later want to actually install W10 you can run it again and
undue what you have blocked. If you actually deleted the download
folders mentioned, if they even exist on your machine, you can use the
Media Creation tool to install from.


Thanks for the pointers. I'm sure that many would find this approach
helpful, but I don't want another layer of programs running in the
background. I don't know when or if I'll update to Windows 10, since all
I've seen so far presents additional management burdens with no real
improvements in functionality.

It's not really another layer of programs. You run it once, it makes
changes, then it exits and you're done. If/when you change your mind, you
run it again, it makes changes, and then it exits and you're done.

Win 10 nag screen
 

On 10/16/2015 11:54 AM, Char Jackson wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:26:13 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 10/15/2015 7:18 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 10/15/2015 4:31 PM, Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

I have had good luck with the GWX Control Panel found at;

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html


It lets you pick what it does from the menu, or nothing if you choose to
exit out of it.

Much better than those point and shoot programs that don't let you see
what it will affect before it actually gets destructive.

I have used it on W7 and W8 machines and it seems to do what it says.

Should you later want to actually install W10 you can run it again and
undue what you have blocked. If you actually deleted the download
folders mentioned, if they even exist on your machine, you can use the
Media Creation tool to install from.


Thanks for the pointers. I'm sure that many would find this approach
helpful, but I don't want another layer of programs running in the
background. I don't know when or if I'll update to Windows 10, since all
I've seen so far presents additional management burdens with no real
improvements in functionality.

It's not really another layer of programs. You run it once, it makes
changes, then it exits and you're done. If/when you change your mind, you
run it again, it makes changes, and then it exits and you're done.

Thanks. I must have gotten the wrong impression when I read the page.
So, it's a program to automate the process that MS recommends to disable
and hide their KB (per the link I first posted)? If so, that doesn't
sound permanent, either.

--
Best regards,

Neil

Win 10 nag screen
 

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 10:18:02 -0400, Neil wrote:
On 10/16/2015 2:57 AM, . . .winston wrote:
[quoted text muted]
automatically on Windows 7 and 8 ***

http://microsoft-news.com/microsoft-...ndows-7-and-8/

The "mistake" appears to be that MS thinks we all want Windows 10 at
this point in time. Instituting this action takes too much involvement
from too many programmers to be anything other than intentional.

I believe it's intentional -- this "mistake" is too high visibility,
and would have been instantly corrected if it were truly a mistake.

But I don't believe they think we all want Windows 10. By now
comments in the press and in a zillion online forums have disabused
them of that notion, if ever they held it. The truth is that they
don't care what we want, because we are not their customers. Their
customers are, first, PC makers and second, the companies to which
they intend selling all our data they gather with Windows 10 and with
the so-called "telemetry" updates to Windows 7 and 8.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

Win 10 nag screen
 

Neil wrote:
On 10/15/2015 5:36 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Neil wrote:
Hi,

I know much has been written about disabling the nagging pop-up pushing
Windows 10, mainly by disabling and "hiding" KB3035583. I haven't done
that yet, mainly because I suspect that some other KB will reinstate the
nagging at some point in the future. I've been keeping my eye on the
issues associated with the "upgrade" and feel that Win10 is not ready
for prime time.

Now that the pop-up is taking about half the screen and interfering with
my work by disrupting uploads/downloads, etc., I'm ready to move. The
question that I have is, has disabling KB3035583 been effective at
killing this absurd advertisement?

Yes. I've done it twice, and it worked on both occasions.
I had a few months' peace between the two, before MS sneaked it in again.

Twice in 3 months... what a waste of time that MS is imposing on us.


I quite agree. But with a reservation. Win10 is definitely better than
Win8.1. In fact the more I use it the easier I feel about having (no
doubt) eventually to move over to it. I'm sticking with Win7 on my main
computer, but come next July I'm sure I'll feel very easy about getting
the free update.

Ed