Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

I encounter a strange behavior of my Gmail. I use Thunderbird 52.9.1
under WinXP. It used to work fine, apart from connection failure from
time to time due to the great firewall of china. So I sometimes log into
web UI to check, because web tools for wall-breaking is easier to find
and work. Today after I logged into web UI, I found some recent mails
not received, and would like to read them in TB. I managed to run Tor
successfully, and use F5 to refresh mail. The status bar shows the
normal process, and after showing "downloading message 1 of 1", the
process finished. Press F5 again, another message is downloaded, and on
and on.

Has anyone seen this? What might be the cause?

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Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

On 01/08/2019 14:47, Lu Wei wrote:

Has anyone seen this?

Never seen it in my whole life!!

What might be the cause?

It could be Hong Kong Chinese hacking in to Chinese Great Wall to
destabilise the Chinese population. They want independence from China
and so they would do anything within their powers.

Why can't Chinese government send in tanks and stop them from causing
all the destruction and burning buildings in HK? It is time to act hard
on them and let them know who is in charge of HK.

Did you try to reboot the machine to clear anything in memory that is
corrupted?




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Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 17:46:34 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 01/08/2019 14:47, Lu Wei wrote:

Has anyone seen this?

Never seen it in my whole life!!

What might be the cause?

It could be Hong Kong Chinese hacking in to Chinese Great Wall to
destabilise the Chinese population. They want independence from China
and so they would do anything within their powers.

Why can't Chinese government send in tanks and stop them from causing
all the destruction and burning buildings in HK? It is time to act hard
on them and let them know who is in charge of HK.

Did you try to reboot the machine to clear anything in memory that is
corrupted?


Good Guy? More like ****-stain if you ask me.

Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

Lu Wei wrote:
I encounter a strange behavior of my Gmail. I use Thunderbird 52.9.1
under WinXP. It used to work fine, apart from connection failure from
time to time due to the great firewall of china. So I sometimes log into
web UI to check, because web tools for wall-breaking is easier to find
and work. Today after I logged into web UI, I found some recent mails
not received, and would like to read them in TB. I managed to run Tor
successfully, and use F5 to refresh mail. The status bar shows the
normal process, and after showing "downloading message 1 of 1", the
process finished. Press F5 again, another message is downloaded, and on
and on.

Has anyone seen this? What might be the cause?


If Thunderbird was using POP (not IMAP), and if TBird was also using
Gmail's normal mode (not Gmail's "recent" mode), then I would expect
TBird to pull about 250 emails each time. The reason is that Gmail
will provide only the oldest 250 conversations that haven't been
popped yet.

REF: https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246

I can only speculate that because the Tor network is so slow, Gmail
has reduced the 250 to a smaller number for you.

Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

Lu Wei,

Has anyone seen this? What might be the cause?

Have you already figured it out ? If so, what was causing it ?

If not, there is the possibility that somehow Thunderbird got configured to
just grab a single message per check ...

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

On 2019-8-2 17:35, Нэргүй wrote:
Lu Wei wrote:
I encounter a strange behavior of my Gmail. I use Thunderbird 52.9.1
under WinXP. It used to work fine, apart from connection failure from
time to time due to the great firewall of china. So I sometimes log into
web UI to check, because web tools for wall-breaking is easier to find
and work. Today after I logged into web UI, I found some recent mails
not received, and would like to read them in TB. I managed to run Tor
successfully, and use F5 to refresh mail. The status bar shows the
normal process, and after showing "downloading message 1 of 1", the
process finished. Press F5 again, another message is downloaded, and on
and on.

Has anyone seen this? What might be the cause?


If Thunderbird was using POP (not IMAP), and if TBird was also using
Gmail's normal mode (not Gmail's "recent" mode), then I would expect
TBird to pull about 250 emails each time. The reason is that Gmail
will provide only the oldest 250 conversations that haven't been
popped yet.

REF: https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246

I can only speculate that because the Tor network is so slow, Gmail
has reduced the 250 to a smaller number for you.

That seems possible. Tor is too slow for wall-breaking. It is designed
for anonymity, not for availability.

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Regards,
Lu Wei
IM:
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

On 2019-8-3 15:09, R.Wieser wrote:
Lu Wei,

Has anyone seen this? What might be the cause?

Have you already figured it out ? If so, what was causing it ?

No, my e-mail throughput is not large, and I normally keep Thunderbird
open, so I normally will not notice this. And the poor connection
hindered me from testing a lot.

If not, there is the possibility that somehow Thunderbird got configured to
just grab a single message per check ...

Does Thunderbird has that setting?


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Regards,
Lu Wei
IM:
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

Lu Wei,

If not, there is the possibility that somehow Thunderbird got
configured to just grab a single message per check ...

Does Thunderbird has that setting?

I don't know for certain, as I do not use Thunderbird myself. But it stands
to reason that it does, as that way you can tell it to grab more on
good-and-fast connections, and less on slower and/or bad connections.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

Gmail pulls one mails only once a time
 

On 2019-8-1 21:47, Lu Wei wrote:
I encounter a strange behavior of my Gmail. I use Thunderbird 52.9.1
under WinXP. It used to work fine, apart from connection failure from
time to time due to the great firewall of china. So I sometimes log into
web UI to check, because web tools for wall-breaking is easier to find
and work. Today after I logged into web UI, I found some recent mails
not received, and would like to read them in TB. I managed to run Tor
successfully, and use F5 to refresh mail. The status bar shows the
normal process, and after showing "downloading message 1 of 1", the
process finished. Press F5 again, another message is downloaded, and on
and on.

Has anyone seen this? What might be the cause?

The choose of search word is an art, yet I finally searched to Gmail's support page (I should have thought of it earlier):
https://support.google.com/mail/foru...%2FE8OivuA0AIE

Exactly the same problem. The explanation is also given in quote:
"
bkennelly

The problem shows up over time. After you download a message from Gmail's POP service, it is removed from the POP download queue, and replaced by a newer message for the next download. But, that only happens if the session ends successfully. If there is a network problem before disconnecting, the messages are kept in the queue, just in case the client did not get them. Normally, if your client is not set to leave messages on the server, it will attempt to delete the successfully downloaded messages that were left, and Gmail removes them from the queue. If your client is set to leave messages on the server, it will ignore those messages, and they will remain in the queue indefinitely, leaving less room for new messages.

By changing the "leave on server" option, your client can clear the queue and start receiving more new messages.

Note: when the messages are removed from the download queue, they are not deleted from the Gmail server, unless you chose that option in the Gmail POP settings.
"

I followed the advice, and after two long connections (clearing the queue maybe), TB began to download all the new messages.

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Regards,
Lu Wei
IM:
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA