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Peter Percival February 11th 18 03:31 PM

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In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date. When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock. Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock. How under Win10 can I get an analogue clock?

Mr. Man-wai Chang February 11th 18 03:51 PM

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On 11/2/2018 23:31, Peter Percival wrote:
In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date. When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock. Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock. How under Win10 can I get an analogue
clock?


Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital clock
spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the positions
of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)

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Rene Lamontagne February 11th 18 03:57 PM

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On 02/11/2018 9:37 AM, KenW wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:31:17 +0000, Peter Percival
wrote:

In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date. When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock. Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock. How under Win10 can I get an analogue clock?


Search windows 10 change digital clock to analog


KenW



Here's one but there are others also.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/56794...ck-windows-10/

Rene

Big Al[_5_] February 11th 18 04:44 PM

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On 2/11/2018 10:57 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 02/11/2018 9:37 AM, KenW wrote:
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 15:31:17 +0000, Peter Percival
wrote:

In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date.* When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock.* Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock.* How under Win10 can I get an analogue
clock?


Search**** windows 10 change digital clock to analog


KenW



Here's one but there are others also.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/56794...ck-windows-10/

Rene

Dang, If you hadn't said something, I wouldn't have seen the change. I
myself kinda like the new digital clock. Surprising how large it is
and Microsoft's proclivity to making things so small in Windows 10.

Mr. Man-wai Chang February 11th 18 04:49 PM

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On 12/2/2018 00:44, Big Al wrote:
Dang, If you hadn't said something, I wouldn't have seen the change. I
myself kinda like the new digital clock. Surprising how large it is
and Microsoft's proclivity to making things so small in Windows 10.


Well, don't you want a 100% simulated pendulum clock!? :)


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Mark Lloyd[_2_] February 11th 18 04:53 PM

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On 02/11/2018 09:51 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital clock
spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the positions
of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)


Yes, I find digital a lot easier to read. The time is already displayed
in a familiar format, especially compared to an analog clock, which is
complicated. One thing I noticed is (for example) at 1:59 the hour is 1
but the hour hand is MUCH closer to 2.

Analog does seem to have some advantages, but not enough to be worth it.
Some people seem to stick with what they are used to and don't consider
change. I grew up with analog clocks, then found something better. I can
still tell time with an analog clock, but with digital it' faster and
easier.

BTW, When I wrote clock code for my webpage, I found creating the analog
clock was much more work (including polar to rectangular transforms)
than digital (which wasn't much more than printing the result of the
DATE function).

--
Mark Lloyd
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"Who are you to criticize me for god's choice to make me an atheist?"

Mr. Man-wai Chang February 11th 18 04:55 PM

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On 12/2/2018 00:53, Mark Lloyd wrote:

BTW, When I wrote clock code for my webpage, I found creating the analog
clock was much more work (including polar to rectangular transforms)
than digital (which wasn't much more than printing the result of the
DATE function).


Your Honor:

If you wanted some challenges, create a screen-saver featuring 100%
ACCURATE physics of the whole Big Ben in London.

Meow.... :)

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Paul[_32_] February 11th 18 05:19 PM

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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/2/2018 23:31, Peter Percival wrote:
In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date. When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock. Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock. How under Win10 can I get an analogue
clock?


Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital clock
spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the positions
of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)


Look at the subtle shading in that clock.
It's a work of art.

http://www.tech-recipes.com/wp-conte...2-42-03-PM.png

An analog clock implementation allows you to judge
the "RT" capabilities of the OS better. So you can
tell whether your OS is a slouch or not. That analog clock
display should be "as smooth as can be". And you can
see it jumps and jitters quite a bit.

Even on computers with relatively low power CPUs, I've
seen glassy smooth animations done. And that's because
they used hardware timers to keep it that way.

I bet Jeff Bezos has the analog clock showing on his computer.

http://www.businessinsider.com/every...r-clock-2013-8

Paul

Ken Blake[_5_] February 11th 18 05:38 PM

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:53:37 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 02/11/2018 09:51 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital clock
spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the positions
of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)


Yes, I find digital a lot easier to read. The time is already displayed
in a familiar format, especially compared to an analog clock, which is
complicated. One thing I noticed is (for example) at 1:59 the hour is 1
but the hour hand is MUCH closer to 2.




Sure. The hour hand is much closer to 2 because the time is much
closer to 2. At 1:59, the hour hand has progressed 59/60ths of the way
to 2.

In an analog clock, the hour hand tells the time by itself. The only
reason there's a minute hand is to make it easier to accurately tell
how far the hour hand has progressed between the numbers.


Peter Percival February 11th 18 05:49 PM

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Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/2/2018 23:31, Peter Percival wrote:
In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date.* When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock.* Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock.* How under Win10 can I get an analogue
clock?


Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital clock
spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the positions
of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)


It is a matter of taste and not subject to rational explanation.




Ken Blake[_5_] February 11th 18 05:50 PM

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On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:53:37 -0600, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 02/11/2018 09:51 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

[snip]

Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital clock
spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the positions
of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)


Yes, I find digital a lot easier to read. The time is already displayed
in a familiar format, especially compared to an analog clock, which is
complicated.



If you want to know the time very accurately, of course a digital
clock is more better. But rarely does any of us need that kind of
precision. Ask me what time it is, and if the analog watch on my wrist
points to 10:43‚ I'll say "a quarter to eleven."


One thing I noticed is (for example) at 1:59 the hour is 1
but the hour hand is MUCH closer to 2.

Analog does seem to have some advantages, but not enough to be worth it.
Some people seem to stick with what they are used to and don't consider
change. I grew up with analog clocks, then found something better. I can
still tell time with an analog clock, but with digital it' faster and
easier.



Not to me it isn't. There are only two or three advantages to digital
clocks/watches, as far as I'm concerned:

1. They're more accurate, if that's important (see above).

2. They are much easier to reset, when you are traveling and changing
time zones.

3. And if you're talking about wris****ches with a calendar feature,
they are easier to set the day of the month following a month that has
fewer than 31 days. In fact, most of them do that automatically.

I use an analog wris****ch, and it's one that doesn't even have
numbers on it. It's fine for me, and my only regrets are points 2 and
3 above.

Mr. Man-wai Chang February 11th 18 06:14 PM

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On 12/2/2018 01:44, Wolf K wrote:
Most of the time, I don't want to know the time, but how much time is
left. Analogue shows that at a glance, and most of the time, one doesn't
need to know it to the minute, let alone the second, so digital
precision is just annoying overkill.

See?

(PS: Related: The reason I use both imperial and metric units is that
they are suited to different scales.)


Graphical, as in stock markets! :)

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Mr. Man-wai Chang February 11th 18 06:15 PM

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On 12/2/2018 01:49, Peter Percival wrote:

It is a matter of taste and not subject to rational explanation.


Also a good excuse, though not strong enough. :)


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Rene Lamontagne February 11th 18 06:28 PM

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On 02/11/2018 11:49 AM, Peter Percival wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/2/2018 23:31, Peter Percival wrote:
In the lower right-hand corner of my screen is the time and date.* When
I left click on it I see a calender and a digital clock.* Under Win7, I
used to see an analogue clock.* How under Win10 can I get an analogue
clock?


Out of CURIOSITY: why do you want an analogue clock when a digital
clock spells all information precisely? You don't need to judge the
positions of two hands as in an traditional analog clock!

Just out of curiosity... :)


It is a matter of taste and not subject to rational explanation.




About 1980 I purchased an Apple 2+ it came loaded wit 16K of ram,Yes 16K.
I used to enter programs from various Apple magazines on the keyboard,
some were in basic and some were in machine language.
one day a magazine had a machine language program for an Analog clock,
But it required 24K of memory, I only had 16K.
What to do? I agonized over it for a few days as I REALLY wanted that clock.
So finally I went and bought the extra 8 1K chips I needed for $360.00
cdn, Well I got my clock and to this day I wear an analog wris****ch and
have an analog clock hanging in the living room. :-)

Rene



Peter Percival February 11th 18 07:08 PM

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Ken Blake wrote:

If you want to know the time very accurately, of course a digital
clock is more better.


How come? There is nothing about digit clocks that mean that they can't
be wrong.




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