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Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
"Jesper Kaas" wrote in message ... Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards You can slipstream SP1 into an installation DVD: https://www.intowindows.com/how-to-slipstream-windows-7-sp1-into-installation-dvd-iso/ Been years (more than 10, I'm sure) since I tried it, but IIRC, it worked just fine. AFA an AV program goes, most have either a .exe or .zip file as the initial download. You don't mention which one you're using now, but if you have the installation file(s) or CD/DVD for it, you can use that to install it on the new setup. -- SC Tom |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 08:30:18 -0400, Wolf K
wrote: On 2018-10-27 05:49, Jesper Kaas wrote: Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards Download your defender programs' install packages with a protected machine, copy the packages to a USB stick, and install from there before connecting to the 'net for daily updates (if any). "Protected machine" includes your current one, doesn't it? In any case, don't sweat it. Win7 includes MS's own defender, which is pretty good as such things go. Best, Thanks all for the advices, and thanks to SC Tom for the link about slipstreaming. I will try that. I am using a free version of Avira now on the main machine. It has a posiblity "Protect other devices" and I used that to download a 5.2 MB exe-file. When I tried to run that on a laptop with wi-fi turned off, the installation stopped after some time with a message "No internet connection". So I have to try another Brand and see if it will actually instsall without access to internet. It would be most welcome with advice from someone that knows abourt an antivirus package that will actually install without acces to internet. Best regards -- Jesper Kaas - |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On 10/27/18 9:36 AM, Jesper Kaas wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 08:30:18 -0400, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-10-27 05:49, Jesper Kaas wrote: Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards Download your defender programs' install packages with a protected machine, copy the packages to a USB stick, and install from there before connecting to the 'net for daily updates (if any). "Protected machine" includes your current one, doesn't it? In any case, don't sweat it. Win7 includes MS's own defender, which is pretty good as such things go. Best, Thanks all for the advices, and thanks to SC Tom for the link about slipstreaming. I will try that. I am using a free version of Avira now on the main machine. It has a posiblity "Protect other devices" and I used that to download a 5.2 MB exe-file. When I tried to run that on a laptop with wi-fi turned off, the installation stopped after some time with a message "No internet connection". So I have to try another Brand and see if it will actually instsall without access to internet. It would be most welcome with advice from someone that knows abourt an antivirus package that will actually install without acces to internet. Best regards Why can't you just go here and download one already made up? I don't have a win 7 key handy to see what your choices are on the next screen but if they offer 7 with SP1 already, then go for it. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7 |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On 10/27/18 9:42 AM, Big Al wrote:
On 10/27/18 9:36 AM, Jesper Kaas wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 08:30:18 -0400, Wolf K wrote: On 2018-10-27 05:49, Jesper Kaas wrote: Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. Â*Â* But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards Download your defender programs' install packages with a protected machine, copy the packages to a USB stick, and install from there before connecting to the 'net for daily updates (if any). "Protected machine" includes your current one, doesn't it? In any case, don't sweat it. Win7 includes MS's own defender, which is pretty good as such things go. Best, Thanks all for the advices, and thanks to SC Tom for the link about slipstreaming. I will try that. I am using a free version of Avira now on the main machine. It has a posiblity "Protect other devices" and I used that to download a 5.2 MB exe-file. When I tried to run that on a laptop with wi-fi turned off, the installation stopped after some time with a message "No internet connection". So I have to try another Brand and see if it will actually instsall without access to internet. It would be most welcome with advice from someone that knows abourt an antivirus package that will actually install without acces to internet. Best regards Why can't you just go here and download one already made up? I don't have a win 7 key handy to see what your choices are on the next screen but if they offer 7 with SP1 already, then go for it. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7 Found one, and it allowed me to download 7 with SP1 premium. |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
Jesper Kaas wrote:
Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards Your router should have a firewall. That's all you need. |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
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Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 09:42:13 -0400, Big Al wrote:
Why can't you just go here and download one already made up? I don't have a win 7 key handy to see what your choices are on the next screen but if they offer 7 with SP1 already, then go for it. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...nload/windows7 Thanks a lot. The download is now running (should be finished in 37 minutes as i write this), and I don't have to fiddle with slipstreaming :-) -- Jesper Kaas - |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
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Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On 10/27/18 4:49 AM, Jesper Kaas wrote:
Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards Some people believe that installing antivirus software weakens the OS, providing more flaws viruses can use to infect it. Also, a lot of problems come from AV interfering with things. |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
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Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On 27/10/2018 17:04, Jesper Kaas wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 17:02:50 +0200, Jesper Kaas wrote: Thanks a lot. The download is now running (should be finished in 37 minutes as i write this), and I don't have to fiddle with slipstreaming :-) Eh, and can the ISO be used to create a bootable USB? Yes but you are not as intelligent as one would expect from a Windows Operating System user. Have you just moved away from Linux Junk? -- With over 950 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:45:24 -0500, Sam E
wrote: Some people believe that installing antivirus software weakens the OS, providing more flaws viruses can use to infect it. Yes, probably some people believe that. Some people believe the earth is flat. Some people believe all sorts of false things. "Installing antivirus software weakens the OS" is one of the many false things that some people believe. Also, a lot of problems come from AV interfering with things. Another false thing. However if you run two or more anti-virus programs, yes, they can interfere with each other. But I should point out that not all anti-virus programs are equally good. Undoubtedly some of the poorer ones *can* cause problems. Some people also believe that if you practice "safe hex," an anti-virus program isn't necessary. That *is* correct. However (and it's a *big* however) unless you *never* go to the Internet and *never* insert CDs, DVDs, external hard drives, thumb drives, etc., you can never be completely sure you are always practicing safe hex. Rather than hoping you are always practicing safe hex it's wise to not only do what you think is safe hex, but also run an anti-virus program. As far as I'm concerned, not running an anti-virus program is the height of foolishness. It's better to be safe than sorry. |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
KenW wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:49:19 +0200, Jesper Kaas wrote: Hi I have an old installation of Windows 7 that is now running on the third motherboard and third or fourth harddisk/SSD. It is a wee bit quirky, and I want to install it fresh to a new SSD from the original installation DVD. But how to handle connecting the machine to internet and installing antivirus? I mean, can I finish the installation of Windows 7, connect to internet, download and install an antivirus package without risking that the machine gets infected before the antivirus packe is up and running? Are there antivirus packages that can be downloaded with a complete install package to USB-stick on the old Windows 7 rig. Then when the new Windows 7 install is finished, install the antivirus from USB-stick and then connect to internet? Thanks for any advice on the above subject, and maybe also how to make an install-media that contains service pack 1. And of course any other advice :-) Best regards Download your security programs and Win 7 installation files. Disconnect from the internet, install Win 7 and your security programs. Then you can connect to the internet. I don't know if that virus is still in the wild, but I got nailed once staying connected to the internet when installing Win7. Directly connected to a dialup modem or a broadband modem ? Or connected to a modem/router, with the router NAT cone to protect you ? If you used a router, a lot of trivial stuff can be stopped. SASSER would be stopped. SMB attacks would be stopped (because I don't think a router by default opens the Windows file sharing port - that would be a terrible feature!!!). My first router had IDENTD not stealthed, but that could be fixed with a port forwarding rule. I read somewhere it was a bad idea to leave it visible, but I've not read of a means of exploiting it. You should: 1) Be using IPV4 (because of coincidental NAT with IPV4 on ruter). 2) Be using a router, between the Internet and your computer (for the NAT, the network address translation). By matching outgoing ports to incoming ports, plus stateful packet inspection, it's possible to do a decent job of "hardening" your Internet side. It's not clear to me, other than security-by-obscurity (the 4 billion local addresses), how IPV6 can be made to afford the same level of coincidental protection. I know there are some idiots out there, running Windows connected directly to just the modem portion, then relying on the Windows Firewall to protect them, but that's like this... "The Windows Firewall... Wile E Coyote" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:T...screencap).jpg All you need is for one clever Black Hat to find an exploit for the Windows Firewall, and then you're cooked. While looking up SASSER yesterday, I see there are more worm exploits out there than I was expecting. SASSER alone wouldn't be an issue unless you were installing one of the older OSes. But some of the others might actually need to be patched, to make the machine safe. In which case, a person could prepare a "patch kit" with WSUSOffline and inject ~150 security updates via a USB stick. I've done that before. It takes a while, no matter how you do it. HTH, Paul |
Antivirus during fresh install of Windows7
Jesper Kaas wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 17:02:50 +0200, Jesper Kaas wrote: Thanks a lot. The download is now running (should be finished in 37 minutes as i write this), and I don't have to fiddle with slipstreaming :-) Eh, and can the ISO be used to create a bootable USB? Yes. An 8GB USB key is what I use (sufficient to handle some oversized Win10 installs). From a previous posting... ******* "Windows 7 USB DVD Download Tool (extracts from ISO9660 file and copies files to USB stick)" The first link is the README, the second link the download. http://web.archive.org/web/201201022...usbdvd_dwnTool http://web.archive.org/web/201110052...B-DVD-tool.exe If you operate that tool from a 64-bit OS, it can make 32 bit or 64 bit USB sticks from 32 bit ISO or 64 bit ISO files. If your "preparation machine" is 32 bit, you'll need to find and install a 32-bit version of bootsect.exe in the program folder of that program. Note that the installation is non-standard and the tool was obviously not created by Microsoft themselves. I have successfully used a WinXP 32 bit machine to make USB keys to install Win7,Win8,Win10 of either the 32 bit or the 64 bit ISO9660 image. Finding a bootsect.exe that was a 32 bit executable, and adding that, was all I needed to make it work. ******* HTH, Paul |
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