Pantograph.
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing?
It would be like a mouse, I suppose.

Pantograph.
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing?
It would be like a mouse, I suppose.

Almost any CAD or Building design software that supports component
configurations should do what you need.

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Pantograph.
 

Peter Jason wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing?
It would be like a mouse, I suppose.

Carpenter.

The best tool for the job.

Paul

Pantograph.
 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing?
It would be like a mouse, I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

Pantograph.
 

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing?
It would be like a mouse, I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

Paul

Pantograph.
 

"Peter Jason" wrote in message
...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing?
It would be like a mouse, I suppose.

A profile gauge is a cheap tool to mimic the intricate bits. It's just a bar
of metal or plastic to hold a line of rods.
You push one end of the rods against the shape you want to copy & the rods
slide through the bar leaving the copied outline on the other end. They
usually cope with about 6" (150mm).

--
Regards
wasbit

Pantograph.
 

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a
mouse, I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

Paul

A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,


I hope we get to see a picture of this project when it's finished.

I want to see what this set of stairs is "bridging".

Paul

Pantograph.
 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:14:21 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors.* This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc.**** Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a mouse,
I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

** Paul

A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,

That's what I was thinking. Anyone who's done some woodworking and
such has already learned to transfer shapes with just a pencil and
piece of wood.

We got along very well without computers for many years, yet now some
folks can't leave the house without checking the weather, roads, etc.,
when just a few years ago they'd never give it a thought.

Pantograph.
 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:19:27 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a
mouse, I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

Paul

A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,


I hope we get to see a picture of this project when it's finished.

I want to see what this set of stairs is "bridging".

Paul

https://postimg.cc/R6mtHjht
It's not a pretty sight. After engineering a door
in the brick wall to make the top floor
contiguous, after straining my back and congesting
my lungs, after cleaning up the flour-fine brick
dust and arranging removal of all copious debris,
I'm assailed with the problem of making a single
(broad) step (of pine) down to the back of the
house. I have made the step but have to saw it
into shape. Perhaps multi-photos merged into
PShop (panorama) might do it?

Pantograph.
 

On 11/15/2018 3:21 PM, default wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:14:21 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors.Â* This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc.Â*Â*Â*Â* Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a mouse,
I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

Â*Â* Paul

A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,

That's what I was thinking. Anyone who's done some woodworking and
such has already learned to transfer shapes with just a pencil and
piece of wood.

We got along very well without computers for many years, yet now some
folks can't leave the house without checking the weather, roads, etc.,
when just a few years ago they'd never give it a thought.

I am with you. I can not believe it is worth nearly $1000 for a phone to
call some one on to make a dinner date. Even you you use the phone as a
computer to access the an ISP, is the information worth $1000 + 50 to
100-month. I could never find a phone like that cost effective.

--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

Pantograph.
 

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 08:06:34 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:19:27 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a
mouse, I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

Paul

A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,


I hope we get to see a picture of this project when it's finished.

I want to see what this set of stairs is "bridging".

Paul

https://postimg.cc/R6mtHjht
It's not a pretty sight. After engineering a door
in the brick wall to make the top floor
contiguous, after straining my back and congesting
my lungs, after cleaning up the flour-fine brick
dust and arranging removal of all copious debris,
I'm assailed with the problem of making a single
(broad) step (of pine) down to the back of the
house. I have made the step but have to saw it
into shape. Perhaps multi-photos merged into
PShop (panorama) might do it?

Now I have seen the photograph: I think you should Google 'spiling
board'. No, that is not a spelling error. The word is 'spiling'.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

Pantograph.
 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:28:40 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-11-15 15:21, default wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 09:14:21 -0500, Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors.* This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc.**** Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a mouse,
I suppose.

THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.

You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

** Paul

A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,

That's what I was thinking. Anyone who's done some woodworking and
such has already learned to transfer shapes with just a pencil and
piece of wood.

We got along very well without computers for many years, yet now some
folks can't leave the house without checking the weather, roads, etc.,
when just a few years ago they'd never give it a thought.


We would just glance at the sky and sniff the air...

:-)

Yeah, and if it rained, so what? It's not the end of the world.

Pantograph.
 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 15:21:56 -0500, default
wrote:

[snip]

That's what I was thinking. Anyone who's done some woodworking and
such has already learned to transfer shapes with just a pencil and
piece of wood.

We got along very well without computers for many years, yet now some
folks can't leave the house without checking the weather, roads, etc.,
when just a few years ago they'd never give it a thought.

How could you forget checking E-mail and social media?

Obviously, you are not with it, and neither am I. Whatever this
"it" is, I think it has too much company. BEG

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Pantograph.
 

On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 16:14:47 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

[snip]

I am with you. I can not believe it is worth nearly $1000 for a phone to
call some one on to make a dinner date. Even you you use the phone as a
computer to access the an ISP, is the information worth $1000 + 50 to
100-month. I could never find a phone like that cost effective.

I understand that some of them can play Euchre.

--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

Hello, sig. Long time, no not see.

Sincerely,

Gene Wirchenko

Pantograph.
 

Peter Jason wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:19:27 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-11-15 05:50, Paul wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 14:46:49 +1100, Peter Jason wrote:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantograph
I have to engineer a wooden step to adapt
differing heights in two floors. This has to fit
within the cut walls and meet up with skirting
boards etc. Is there an app to trace around
the relevant edges and so make a pattern on a
piece of timber for subsequent fret-sawing? It would be like a
mouse, I suppose.
THis is the kind of thing that boatbuilders have been doing for
millenia. Its not essentially a computer problem.
You can laser scan things if you really need
dimensions. But it's kinda overkill.

Paul
A piece of boxboard and a pencil also works. Cut an oversize piece,
trace, then cut near the traced line, try again, and cut again. May have
to do that several times, but it will improve your manual dexterity, bonus!

:-)

Best,

I hope we get to see a picture of this project when it's finished.

I want to see what this set of stairs is "bridging".

Paul

https://postimg.cc/R6mtHjht
It's not a pretty sight. After engineering a door
in the brick wall to make the top floor
contiguous, after straining my back and congesting
my lungs, after cleaning up the flour-fine brick
dust and arranging removal of all copious debris,
I'm assailed with the problem of making a single
(broad) step (of pine) down to the back of the
house. I have made the step but have to saw it
into shape. Perhaps multi-photos merged into
PShop (panorama) might do it?

https://www.pinterest.ca/kermansfloo...between-rooms/

Is the material in the transition/step area sound ?

Does it take a load now, without deflecting ?

You don't want to put something on top of that which
is only going to creak every time someone steps on it.
You wouldn't want to fasten something with an
adhesive, then discover after it's set, that
it creaks like a *******.

If the material was (by some miracle) sound, then
you could bring the surface up plumb by pouring
a material on top of that, which sets. Such materials
are sometimes used for flooring jobs (tile underlay),
to cover imperfections in the underlying surface, and give
a good surface to lay the flooring on. Your working
surface right now, doesn't look level enough for
that stuff (you'd need too thick of a layer).

The wood on the left side, looks too high for
your transition piece to be fitted. Is it safe to
remove that wood ? What's underneath it ? 2x4s
verticals ? That wood looks kinds small to be
a sill plate.

*******

Judging by the level of what I see at the moment,
it looks like you're about to do this. Put a
"tripping bar" in the doorway.

Floor in Floor in
bottom of top of picture
picture which is lower

+--------+ Side profile view
--------+ Pine |
|
+---------

The level of materials on the left side,
looks too high to level it out, without the
board sitting high, and tripping people on
the way through the doorway.

Looking at the picture ("looking down at my toes"),
I think I'm seeing...

(Lower carpeted floor) View looking down

- - - ---------------------- - - - \
Brick or solid blocks \
of some sort \__ Pine transition
- - - ---------------------- - - - / board goes on
Wooden sill plate? / top of this mess
- - - ---------------------- - - - /

(Higher carpeted floor)

Can you remove a sill plate ? There'd be nothing
underneath it ? Maybe that's just a framing piece
that could be removed, and there is another board
under that ?

If the pine board rests on those two dissimilar
materials, the wood part underneath could deflect,
while the brick or block section remain absolutely rigid.

Paul