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Seth September 30th 14 06:27 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

John Doe[_8_] September 30th 14 06:53 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
Seth sethNOSPAM NOSPAMclcpro.com wrote:

Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated


Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.

The glaring example is speech. Ultraportable PCs (like smartphones
and tablets) already have better built-in speech capabilities than
Windows does.

If Google and Nuance port speech recognition and control to Linux,
I'm out of here.

John Doe[_8_] September 30th 14 06:58 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
Trying to use Microsoft's Windows Speech Recognition (WSR) or Dragon
NaturallySpeaking (DNS) for dictation and control is becoming a
nightmare. Windows 8 has a few nice features that I like, like fully
functional Aero window previews from the taskbar when using a high
contrast color scheme, but it's killing my speech.


Dave-UK September 30th 14 07:23 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 

"Seth" wrote in message ...
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated


Here's a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ





Neil Gould[_2_] September 30th 14 07:33 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
Seth wrote:
Windows 10


http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated

Ho hum. Interesting that the images of Windows 10 contradict the written
content...

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best regards,

Neil




Don Phillipson[_4_] October 1st 14 01:14 AM

Next version of Windows is...
 
"John Doe" wrote in message
...

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.


Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a
market big enough to attract MS.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Good Guy[_2_] October 1st 14 01:34 AM

Next version of Windows is...
 
On 30/09/2014 18:27, Seth wrote:
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated


Officially here also:

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/09/30/announcing-windows-10/

Keep Linux Junkies guessing.



John Doe[_8_] October 1st 14 03:03 AM

Next version of Windows is...
 
"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.


Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute
a market big enough to attract MS.


From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same
number as always. But like I said, Microsoft doesn't innovate, it
does just enough to keep its stranglehold on desktop computer
software. I submit that's part of the problem with PC sales. Of
course tablets would have come along anyway, but Microsoft could
help the PC technology if it were an innovator instead of just a
monopoly holder. More people would be buying PCs. You can bet that
PC sales will drop just before Microsoft is pushed out of the
business and another conglomerate takes over.

Microsoft has made more than enough money off of the personal
computer market to make personal computers into a lot more than
they are today. Apparently many big corporate leaders have
forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten
that it involves reinvesting the money.

Paul October 1st 14 05:47 AM

Next version of Windows is...
 
Seth wrote:
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated


I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX".
And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.
Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would
not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is
some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see.
This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has
some other meaning.

For Apple, the break from MacOS 9 to MacOSX, was a transition
from cooperative multitasking to pre-emptive multitasking. It
was a change worthy of a new name (as pre-emptive is not
crash prone like co-operative was). In the case of Microsoft,
the transition from 8 to 10 involves no new technologies
(I've seen no ground breaking announcements), so this is
hardly a comparable naming exercise. Microsoft had pre-emptive
multitasking for a lot longer than Apple. And before them,
probably some Unix kernel. But for Apple, their rewrite of the
OS was a turning point, from the "toy OS" that was MacOS 9.
MacOS 6 through 9 were still very nice, but "they crashed too much".
It used to crash once a day for me, on average. It's
where the notion of "do frequent saves" came from.
You're on a Mac. The MacOSX machine here, doesn't
have that problem (not that I use it much any more).

Paul

Roderick Stewart October 1st 14 10:55 AM

Next version of Windows is...
 
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 00:47:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX".
And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.
Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would
not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is
some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see.
This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has
some other meaning.


Well, the number spoken English does sound like the German word for
"no", and marketing people do take heed of things like that. Anyway,
why should Microsoft feel the need to compete with something that only
has about 10% of the market?

Rod.

Ken Springer[_2_] October 1st 14 11:28 AM

Next version of Windows is...
 
On 10/1/14 3:55 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 00:47:29 -0400, Paul wrote:

I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX".
And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.
Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would
not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is
some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see.
This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has
some other meaning.


Well, the number spoken English does sound like the German word for
"no", and marketing people do take heed of things like that. Anyway,
why should Microsoft feel the need to compete with something that only
has about 10% of the market?


Speculation, but maybe because Apple's share is growing? Plus, Apple
seems to still be the big elephant in the room when it comes to
smartphones and tablets, which seems to be where MS wants to go.

Although I personally don't consider the Surface Pro 3 to be a "true"
tablet. It seems to be heading more towards being like the MacBook Air,
just with a detachable screen.



--
Ken
Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 25.0
Thunderbird 24.6.0
"My brain is like lightning, a quick flash
and it's gone!"

Linea Recta[_2_] October 1st 14 01:04 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
"Seth" schreef in bericht
...
Windows 10

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated





The Windows version number logic has always been a mystery for me. Why 10?
Perhaps version 9 was a failure?




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Big_Al[_3_] October 1st 14 02:27 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
On 10/01/2014 12:50 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:14:16 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
wrote:

"John Doe" wrote in message
...

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.


Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a
market big enough to attract MS.


They SHOULD have gone with the trend, and called it Windows Plus,
instead of just a number.






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Oh yes, please, Windows Plus Pro and Windows Plus Ultimate and Windows
Plus Home and maybe and Windows Plus Minus.


Don Phillipson[_4_] October 1st 14 02:31 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 
"John Doe" wrote in message
...
"Don Phillipson" wrote:

"John Doe" wrote

Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC
business and start innovating in the desktop PC business.


Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute
a market big enough to attract MS.


From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same
number as always.


All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays
(not to mention also tablets.)

. . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have
forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten
that it involves reinvesting the money.


This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for
people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them
in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe
them to other people who may make their own decisions
(whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism
does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)



Mayayana October 1st 14 02:56 PM

Next version of Windows is...
 

| I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX".
| And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc.
| Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future".

All of that seems like a good guess. Also, Microsofties
have always been oddly infatuated with "X": ActiveX,
X-Box, docx. The Win32 API has many functions that
have been updated, which MS denotes by "ex". For
example, GetVersion returns the version of the OS.
GetVersionEx is the newer, improved replacement. It's
used in a similar way as the word "premium", having no
actual meaning but implying some sort of specialness.
Perhaps even the ditzy MS obsession with XML goes
back to X.

With Windows being at #10 they can plaster Xs here,
there and everywhere, "to their hearts' content". Who
wouldn't want to replace Notepad, with Notepad X,
after all? It sounds like a race car. Notepad X is sure to
be more spiffy, with great new functions like a built-in
Bing Bar that searches thesaurus.bing.com. The Bing Bar
could then send a copy of your work to Microsoft every
few minutes to help with picking ads to show at the top
of the Notepad X window. Then the cover story can be
that Notepad X is cloudified (or rather XCloudiffified),
with online backup. I can hardly wait. Progress is a
thrilling thing. I'm already feeling a bit depressed that
I'm just writing this post in plain old OE and not in
OutlookExpressX. :)




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