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BillW50 December 15th 12 07:22 PM

SSD Wear Level Monitor Utilities
 
Anybody using these? I have tried them in the past, but all of my
previous SSD are on Asus EeePC and they don't work on them. Although I
have been playing around with two Dell Latitude ST with 128GB SSD (eSATA
drives). I am also a paid user of AnVir Task Manager. And it comes with
a open source utility called "Open Hardware Monitor". And one of the
things it reports is the wear level for SSDs.

http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

What impresses me about this utility is how small it is. Sure I have
other utilities (some that costs lots of money) that gives more
information and allows adjustment of some settings. But this one gives
me all of the information that I am interested in real time.

So my question is for those who monitors their wear levels of their
SSDs, how accurate does "Open Hardware Monitor" compare to others that
you are using? And how much does does your SSD drop overtime? I am new
at this wear level monitoring and one reads 91% and the other at 88% and
neither have budged at all so far.


--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8

BillW50 December 16th 12 05:04 PM

SSD Wear Level Monitor Utilities
 
On 12/15/2012 1:22 PM, BillW50 wrote:
Anybody using these? I have tried them in the past, but all of my
previous SSD are on Asus EeePC and they don't work on them. Although I
have been playing around with two Dell Latitude ST with 128GB SSD (eSATA
drives). I am also a paid user of AnVir Task Manager. And it comes with
a open source utility called "Open Hardware Monitor". And one of the
things it reports is the wear level for SSDs.

http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

What impresses me about this utility is how small it is. Sure I have
other utilities (some that costs lots of money) that gives more
information and allows adjustment of some settings. But this one gives
me all of the information that I am interested in real time.

So my question is for those who monitors their wear levels of their
SSDs, how accurate does "Open Hardware Monitor" compare to others that
you are using? And how much does does your SSD drop overtime? I am new
at this wear level monitoring and one reads 91% and the other at 88% and
neither have budged at all so far.


Oh I see where it is reading the wear leveling at. For Samsung, it is
attribute 232 from SMART. I have SSDs from 2007 and I checked one of
them and that one reads 99% left. Nor am I surprised. As I tweaked that
XP system to write as little as possible. And I got it down to about
20MB per hour of normal use. Also these are SLC SSDs, which I believed
it would take like 4,000+ years to write to every cell 100,000 times at
that rate with average use. ;-)

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8

Paul December 16th 12 05:39 PM

SSD Wear Level Monitor Utilities
 
BillW50 wrote:
On 12/15/2012 1:22 PM, BillW50 wrote:
Anybody using these? I have tried them in the past, but all of my
previous SSD are on Asus EeePC and they don't work on them. Although I
have been playing around with two Dell Latitude ST with 128GB SSD (eSATA
drives). I am also a paid user of AnVir Task Manager. And it comes with
a open source utility called "Open Hardware Monitor". And one of the
things it reports is the wear level for SSDs.

http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

What impresses me about this utility is how small it is. Sure I have
other utilities (some that costs lots of money) that gives more
information and allows adjustment of some settings. But this one gives
me all of the information that I am interested in real time.

So my question is for those who monitors their wear levels of their
SSDs, how accurate does "Open Hardware Monitor" compare to others that
you are using? And how much does does your SSD drop overtime? I am new
at this wear level monitoring and one reads 91% and the other at 88% and
neither have budged at all so far.


Oh I see where it is reading the wear leveling at. For Samsung, it is
attribute 232 from SMART. I have SSDs from 2007 and I checked one of
them and that one reads 99% left. Nor am I surprised. As I tweaked that
XP system to write as little as possible. And I got it down to about
20MB per hour of normal use. Also these are SLC SSDs, which I believed
it would take like 4,000+ years to write to every cell 100,000 times at
that rate with average use. ;-)


Since people have seen that parameter *increase* after a Secure Erase,
I wouldn't take the value too literally. It's not computed the way
we think it is. As users, we would expect percent lifetime to
constantly decrease with time, but apparently it doesn't work that
way.

Paul

BillW50 December 16th 12 05:54 PM

SSD Wear Level Monitor Utilities
 
On 12/16/2012 11:39 AM, Paul wrote:
BillW50 wrote:
On 12/15/2012 1:22 PM, BillW50 wrote:
Anybody using these? I have tried them in the past, but all of my
previous SSD are on Asus EeePC and they don't work on them. Although I
have been playing around with two Dell Latitude ST with 128GB SSD (eSATA
drives). I am also a paid user of AnVir Task Manager. And it comes with
a open source utility called "Open Hardware Monitor". And one of the
things it reports is the wear level for SSDs.

http://openhardwaremonitor.org/

What impresses me about this utility is how small it is. Sure I have
other utilities (some that costs lots of money) that gives more
information and allows adjustment of some settings. But this one gives
me all of the information that I am interested in real time.

So my question is for those who monitors their wear levels of their
SSDs, how accurate does "Open Hardware Monitor" compare to others that
you are using? And how much does does your SSD drop overtime? I am new
at this wear level monitoring and one reads 91% and the other at 88% and
neither have budged at all so far.


Oh I see where it is reading the wear leveling at. For Samsung, it is
attribute 232 from SMART. I have SSDs from 2007 and I checked one of
them and that one reads 99% left. Nor am I surprised. As I tweaked
that XP system to write as little as possible. And I got it down to
about 20MB per hour of normal use. Also these are SLC SSDs, which I
believed it would take like 4,000+ years to write to every cell
100,000 times at that rate with average use. ;-)


Since people have seen that parameter *increase* after a Secure Erase,
I wouldn't take the value too literally. It's not computed the way
we think it is. As users, we would expect percent lifetime to
constantly decrease with time, but apparently it doesn't work that
way.

Paul


Yes so true. Although here is a PDF that I just read through and found
it so very interesting. And using the formula at the end of the
document, this MLC SSD 128GB is expected to last over 300 years if I use
it daily. To me quite honestly, most of us shouldn't have to worry about
wearing out any SSD anytime soon. ;-)

http://www.csee.umbc.edu/~squire/images/ssd1.pdf

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB - Windows 7 SP1 and Windows 8


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