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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
In another thread, we found that nobody has ported a useful Android open-source tool to Windows, where Andy Burns suggested that Android emulation on Windows might work. Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...re/fLmXv99riaY As many of us are ancient octogenarians, we've already tried almost every emulator that ever existed by now - so - I simply ask one question here of the people who *ALREADY* use Android emulation on Windows. If you don't already use Android emulation, you probably won't be able to answer the question I don't think. However ... If you do use Android emulation on Windows, what free emulator do you recommend for running an F-Droid open-source tool such as New Pipe is? https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ (I will post the results of a RTFM in a followup but the question is not what free emulators "exist" nor which are in the "top 10" lists - but which free emulator *you* use that you like - and why). The topic is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , Joe Scotch wrote:
(I will post the results of a RTFM in a followup but the question is not what free emulators "exist" nor which are in the "top 10" lists - but which free emulator *you* use that you like - and why). The topic is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? This is just the result of a Google search, which shows, as always, that there is no consensus as to what free emulator is best for running F-Droid APKs such as New Pipe. If nobody uses Android emulation on Windows, then this thread will be (thankfully) short in that I will likely (almost blindly) choose one of the emulators listed below. A very quick skim seems to show Nox as a good starting point, where, as always, the immense cost of freeware is in all the work finding the good ones. Top 7 Free Android Emulators for PC Windows 7/8/8.1/10 | Run Android apps on Computer PC/Windows 7/8.1/10 http://techapple.net/2014/12/top-7-f...indows-78-110/ 1. Nox App Player http://digitalmid.com/nox_setup_v5.0.0.1_full.exe 2. BlueStacks https://goo.gl/boz823 3. KO Player http://down1.koplayer.com/Emulator/n...1052-co020.exe 4. Andyroid Andy OS https://goo.gl/AktCGi 5. Droid4X http://droid4x.com 6. Windroy - The Android emulator with a Windows Kernel! https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B72...it?usp=sharing 7. GenyMotion https://www.genymotion.com 8 Best Android Emulators for Windows 10 to Run Android Games & Apps http://windowsreport.com/best-androi...rs-windows-10/ 1. Andy http://www.andyroid.net/test/getandy...tner=winreport 2. Droid4X http://www.droid4x.com/ 3. BlueStacks http://www.bluestacks.com/ 4. AMIDuOS http://www.amiduos.com/ 5. Windroy http://windroy.en.softonic.com/ 6. Genymotion https://www.genymotion.com/#!/ 7. Nox http://en.bignox.com/ 8. Xamarin Android Player https://xamarin-android-player.s3.am...ayer%20x64.exe 7 Best Android Emulators for Windows You Can Use https://beebom.com/best-android-emulators-windows/ 1. Remix OS Player http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download 2. MEmu http://www.memuplay.com/ 3. Nox Player https://www.bignox.com/#p1 4. BlueStacks http://www.bluestacks.com/#gref 5. AMIDuOS http://www.amiduos.com/ (30-day trial) 6. LeapDroid https://leapdroid.en.softonic.com/ 7. Genymotion https://www.genymotion.com/ 8. AndyOS (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine) http://www.andyroid.net/ 9. KoPlayer (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine) http://www.koplayer.com/ 10. Droid4X (the author couldn't get this to work on his machine) http://www.softpedia.com/get/Mobile-.../Droid4X.shtml 11. Android Studio (official Android emulator bundled with the dev env) https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html 12+- Best Android Emulators For Windows PC & Mac 2018 http://www.androidcrush.com/best-and...or-pc-windows/ 1. Nox App Player https://www.bignox.com/ 2. Remix OS Player http://cn.jide.com/remixos-player#download 3. BlueStacks http://www.bluestacks.com/ 4. GenyMotion https://www.genymotion.com/ 5. MEmu http://www.memuplay.com/download.php...p&from=home_en 6. Andyroid http://filehippo.com/download_andy/ 7. Ko Player http://www.koplayer.com/ 8. Youwave https://youwave.com/download/ 9. VirtualBox with Android ISO https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads http://www.android-x86.org/download 10. Android Studio+IBk-s Emulator https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html 11. Xamarin Android Player https://developer.xamarin.com/releas...ndroid-player/ 12. LeapDroid (no longer available) As always, all my threads are opened to advance our immense combined tribal knowledge. In summary, the topic of this thread is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 20:17:47 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch wrote:
If nobody uses Android emulation on Windows, then this thread will be (thankfully) short in that I will likely (almost blindly) choose one of the emulators listed below. I run Android-x86 inside VMware Player on Windows. Android-x86 http://www.android-x86.org/ or https://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/ I used the ISOs from android-x86.org, rather than the VM image from osboxes.org. I am not using any APKs from F-Droid, so I can't advise on F-Droid compatibility. Other APKs have worked fine. -- Kind regards Ralph Simple Simon met a pieman, going to the fair; Says Simple Simon to the pieman, "Let me taste your ware." Says the pieman to Simple Simon, "Show me first your penny"; Says Simple Simon to the pieman, "Indeed I have not any." |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , Ralph Fox
wrote: I run Android-x86 inside VMware Player on Windows. Android-x86 http://www.android-x86.org/ or https://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/ I used the ISOs from android-x86.org, rather than the VM image from osboxes.org. I am not using any APKs from F-Droid, so I can't advise on F-Droid compatibility. Other APKs have worked fine. Thanks for this suggestion, borne of your experience, which I appreciate. I don't think the APK source matters all that much - but I listed it because that F-Droid New Pipe APK is what's going to be the testcase. Since I am running VirtualBox already, I would likely use the Android ISO you suggest with VirtualBox (because that would be more efficient for me). https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads http://www.android-x86.org/download The web "android-x86.org" web page is confusing because it lists two different links for the latest 32-bit and 64-bit ISO but each page seems to have similarly 32-bit and 64-bit links so it's hard to tell which one to use for a 64-bit Windows 10 test machine. android-x86.org 32-bit link (but it has 64-bit ISOs): https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....x86-6.0-r3.iso android-x86.org 64-bit link (but it has 32-bit ISOs): https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86...._64-6.0-r3.iso Other than the confusing array of ISOs to choose from, this seems like a nice way to run Android APKs on Windows. Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? https://appzy9.com/download-f-droid-apk-android-ios-pc/ Me (as in "you" in which do "you" use)? Nope, don't use any Android apps on my Windows desktop PC so I don't need an Android emulator. The above is how that person got F-Droid working for them under Windows. Bluestacks https://www.bluestacks.com/ (free) From the appzy9 site: Is F-droid Safe To Use? F-droid is the best app for download applications and also update the pre installed apps. Comical response. Never addresses the question. Like most software authors and content providers, they idemnify themselves; see https://f-droid.org/en/about/ ("use it at your own risk"). From https://f-droid.org/en/docs/: It is a community-run free software project developed by a wide range of contributors. From https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/Known_Repositories and https://forum.f-droid.org/t/known-repositories/721, there are a couple of official F-droid repositories. They do set some flags on some apps (https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/AntiFeatures). 1464 apps have one, or more, flags on them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid says "The F-Droid repository contains a growing number of more than 2,300 apps", so either only about 64% have been analyzed or only 64% qualify for having flag(s) set on them or some percentage of some analyzed apps have gotten flagged. Impossible to tell how many apps have been analyzed. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC):
Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured). a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android32b Type: Other Version: Other/Unknown Memory size: 64MB Create a virtual hard disk now. VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) Dynamically allocated Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB Start Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB) Start Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation == I chose this option Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung. I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back. Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox. So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
From https://f-droid.org/en/docs/: It is a community-run free software project developed by a wide range of contributors. Just to clarify ... My only concern at this point in time is *how* to run an Android APK on Windows - which is a valid technical question. Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. In my case, as I said in the OP, the only Android app I care to run on Windows is New Pipe because it has functionality that isn't known to be available on Windows in a single executable. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for runningF-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC): Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured). a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android32b Type: Other Version: Other/Unknown Memory size: 64MB Create a virtual hard disk now. VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) Dynamically allocated Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB Start Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB) Start Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation =I chose this option Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung. I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back. Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox. So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass. "Memory size: 64MB" === How many smart phones do you know, that are this small ? You might want to check what the typical size setting is for that. I don't know what a good value would be, but you'd better try another value. Paul |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:45:55 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch
wrote: Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe some such people do, but not me. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , Paul wrote:
"Memory size: 64MB" === How many smart phones do you know, that are this small ? You might want to check what the typical size setting is for that. I don't know what a good value would be, but you'd better try another value. Thanks for that advice. Normally there are default settings already set for things like Ubuntu and Windows guest operating systems. So I simply took the defaults (but for "other"). I'm surprised Android wasn't listed - but what I'll do is seek a tutorial for how to get that Android ISO running inside of VirtualBox. The support forum for VirtualBox is pretty good so I'll look there first. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , Ken Blake
wrote: Maybe some such people do, but not me. Ummm.... OK. I have no desire to wear a dress and frilly panties either ... but I don't muddle a technical thread just to tell the world I'm not interested in doing so like you just did. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe for some Android games. All the apps on my Android phone either have a far more robust counterpart on my desktop PC under Windows 7 or the Android apps are not applicable for use on my desktop PC. - A compass app makes no sense on a desktop PC that never moves atop a desk that doesn't move in a house that doesn't move. - An app to detail the cellular signal and tower is not applicable on a desktop PC without cellular components. - Although I could use wifi to connect a desktop PC to the wifi router/cable modem, I prefer wired Ethernet connections for security and simplicity and highest bandwidth, so I don't need an Android app emulated on my PC telling me the wifi details. Some users do use wifi between their desktop PCs and their wifi router but there are are Windows programs for that rather than using an Android emulator to run an Android app. - There are Android apps for MS Word, Excel, Powerpoint, OneNote, and Outlook. I prefer the far more robust desktop versions of those programs. If I wanted free equivalents, I'd use LibreOffice for the office suite, emClient for e-mail/calendar/tasks/contacts (I trialed Thunderbird for 6 months but discarded it), and OneNote (which is free to everyone under every supported OS, including Android and Windows). - My desktop PC is not going with me on drives so none of the navigation apps are applicable on it: Google Maps, Here WeGo, Waze, Gas Guru, ParKING. I don't need Android nav apps on my desktop PC where I can use a web browser to access the more robust web interface to those services. For example, I cannot report in the Android Google Maps app via feedback an error or correction in a proposed route by Google Maps but I can using a web browser on my desktop PC. - I don't need any of the Android apps for shopping (Walmart, Target, Home Depot, Menards, Cub, eBay, Amazon, Newegg) since using the web browser on a desktop PC gives me all the functions of their web sites instead of some limited subset of features through their Android apps. - While the Adobe Reader app is on my phone, I wouldn't bother using an Android emulator to run that on my desktop PC since there is a desktop PC version of that program. In addition, I use PDF-Xchange Editor on my desktop PC. - I don't need a Speedtest app on my desktop PC where the web browser is a better interface to their site. - I have the Droid Optimizer app on my phone but it inapplicable on any OS other than Android. Under other [desktop] OSes, I can actually exit a program to have it actually and immediately unload from system memory, not linger around in limbo awaiting another app squeezing it out of memory. - I have an Amcrest app for an IP camera on the phone but the web interface on a desktop PC provides far more features than does their Android app. I could run wifi dialers on my desktop PC to make and receive calls using my desktop PC but I don't have the need. While I have Skype on the phone, I don't bother with it on my desktop PC. Otherwise, I find Android apps to be poor cousins of far more robust software I can use on the desktop PC under Windows. Sorry, I don't waste my time on inane games designed to addict boobs with endorphin stimulation, like Candy Crush. Personally I cannot see the draw to those stupid games; however, I also find slot machines at the casinos and the whole environ there to be visually and audibly irritating, not pleasure stimulating. Instead of luring me in, they make me want to get out. I see no point in installing an Android emulator to run [more slowly than on native hardware] an Android app (NewPipe) to supplant using a web browser on my desktop PC to use YouTube. Maybe there are Android apps for which there is no Windows counterpart to run on a desktop PC but I haven't run across any of those that interest me. If I'm using a desktop PC, I want more robust features and functionality than found in Android apps, or use Windows software designed for that OS rather than trying to intercede an emulator for lesser functionality in an app coded for a different OS. Just what do you get in the NewPipe app for Android that isn't usable through a richer desktop web browser running on a desktop PC to use the Youtube site? In my case, as I said in the OP, the only Android app I care to run on Windows is New Pipe because it has functionality that isn't known to be available on Windows in a single executable. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe Bluestacks is one choice already mentioned by me in my prior reply (snipped in the quoted content in your reply to my reply). Another that comes to mind is the Android SDK that includes an emulator. It's part of Android Studio used by developers to use their Windows hosts to do Android programming plus it allows testing under different Android scenarios. Since you aren't doing programming but just want to run an Android app, it's likely an emulator bundled in a programming IDE is overkill for your needs so I didn't suggest it before. See https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html. Another is to use an image of the Android OS ran as a guest OS inside of a virtual machine. Fox already mentioned that solution. Now it's up to *YOU* to decide which environ under which to run an Android app that really has no use on a desktop PC. There is better software for PCs designed to run natively on that hardware+OS platform than to emulate Android apps on an alien platform. For your example of NewPipe, I don't see it is better to emulate it on a PC versus software meant to run under an OS on the PC. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
Ken Blake wrote:
Joe Scotch wrote: Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe some such people do, but not me. Not me. The only thing that matters is the ability to transfer files between various devices and my PC. The idea of looking for an Android app that works on Windows sounds silly to me, considering the excess of Windows' apps that has existed for decades. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
Joe Scotch wrote:
I have no desire to wear a dress and frilly panties Something tells me you do. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
Seems to me anyone who runs Windows who has an Android smart phone "might" want to know how to run those apps on Windows - just because they may also have an app they like that is only on Android. Maybe for some Android games. All the apps on my Android phone either have a far more robust counterpart on my desktop PC under Windows 7 or the Android apps are not applicable for use on my desktop PC. Thank you for your detailed post which adds to our group tribal knowledge. It's a good question to ask if there is major value in any Android app that isn't yet on a single app on Windows. Clearly the New Pipe app is one of those major apps, since many people search and watch YouTube without paying the $10 per month (or whatever the current subscription cost is) for YouTube Red. - A compass app makes no sense on a desktop PC that never moves atop a desk that doesn't move in a house that doesn't move. This is true, as are many of the very nice mapping apps on Android like OSMAnd~ or MapFactor Navigator, although some of them (particularly the topographic mapping apps) might be useful on Windows ... although I do very well with Caltopo, which I highly recommend for Windows backcountry mapping. https://caltopo.com/map.html - An app to detail the cellular signal and tower is not applicable on a desktop PC without cellular components. This is a good point, so, I agree in that I don't think the cellular wi-fi signal such as that which we get out of the Android, such as Network Cell Info Lite, or Netmonitor, or GSM Signal Monitoring, or MIT Cell Tracker, or Cell Spy Catcher, etc. - Although I could use wifi to connect a desktop PC to the wifi router/cable modem, I prefer wired Ethernet connections for security and simplicity and highest bandwidth, so I don't need an Android app emulated on my PC telling me the wifi details. Some users do use wifi between their desktop PCs and their wifi router but there are are Windows programs for that rather than using an Android emulator to run an Android app. The main Windows program for that, I think, is inSSIDer, but the Android apps do a nice job also, such as Fritz! WLAN (my favorite). - There are Android apps for MS Word, Excel, Powerpoint, OneNote, and Outlook. I prefer the far more robust desktop versions of those programs. If I wanted free equivalents, I'd use LibreOffice for the office suite, emClient for e-mail/calendar/tasks/contacts (I trialed Thunderbird for 6 months but discarded it), and OneNote (which is free to everyone under every supported OS, including Android and Windows). - My desktop PC is not going with me on drives so none of the navigation apps are applicable on it: Google Maps, Here WeGo, Waze, Gas Guru, ParKING. I don't need Android nav apps on my desktop PC where I can use a web browser to access the more robust web interface to those services. I agree with you that almost any "editor" on Android would be best using the Windows version anyway. - I don't need any of the Android apps for shopping (Walmart, Target, Home Depot, Menards, Cub, eBay, Amazon, Newegg) since using the web browser on a desktop PC gives me all the functions of their web sites instead of some limited subset of features through their Android apps. This is also true, where the desktop browser suffices for most stores. - While the Adobe Reader app is on my phone, I wouldn't bother using an Android emulator to run that on my desktop PC since there is a desktop PC version of that program. In addition, I use PDF-Xchange Editor on my desktop PC. Yup. The PDF stuff is best on a desktop. - I don't need a Speedtest app on my desktop PC where the web browser is a better interface to their site. Yup. Speedtest is easily done on a desktop. Otherwise, I find Android apps to be poor cousins of far more robust software I can use on the desktop PC under Windows. You make a good case that it's the rare Android app that does something "better" than a Windows equivalent. I think New Pipe is the only one I can think of although I think some of the sand timers are pretty good on Android compared to Windows counterparts. I think the Android app drawer apps don't have a viable Windows counterpart, but I can't imagine how they would work on Windows anyway. The SMS and visual voicemail interfaces on Android might be nice on Windows though, don't you think? Sorry, I don't waste my time on inane games designed to addict boobs with endorphin stimulation, like Candy Crush. Every day I try to solve a dozen technical problems. Who needs games. Not me either. I don't even do crossword puzzles. Just fixing my car is a crossword puzzle alone. Personally I cannot see the draw to those stupid games; however, I also find slot machines at the casinos and the whole environ there to be visually and audibly irritating, not pleasure stimulating. Instead of luring me in, they make me want to get out. When I see a secretary (admin) playing solitaire, it makes me wonder whose life can be so boring that they play games with themselves? I see no point in installing an Android emulator to run [more slowly than on native hardware] an Android app (NewPipe) to supplant using a web browser on my desktop PC to use YouTube. The main draw of New Pipe is the lack of in-video ads, but the other draw is the lack of needing to log in, and the next main draw is the ability to download and extract, and a further draw is the ability to play on any player, where that player would have additional features. All this can be done on Windows - but with separate tools and actions. So the main draw of New Pipe is an all-in-one GUI that does what YouTube Red offers, for $10/month or whatever it costs. Maybe there are Android apps for which there is no Windows counterpart to run on a desktop PC but I haven't run across any of those that interest me. Do you use K9 Mail? Lots of people on Android do. How about Snapseed or Deep Art Effects? I find the photo-manipulation software on Android incredibly easy to use compared to, say, The GIMP or Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, etc. If I'm using a desktop PC, I want more robust features and functionality than found in Android apps, or use Windows software designed for that OS rather than trying to intercede an emulator for lesser functionality in an app coded for a different OS. I think the WiFi debugging and photo manipulation freeware on Android are quite useful where it would be nice to find similar counterparts on Windows that are better than Irfanview, Paint.NET, ImageMagick, Pinta, Sketcher, etc. Just what do you get in the NewPipe app for Android that isn't usable through a richer desktop web browser running on a desktop PC to use the Youtube site? I think we can surmise that New Pipe is worth about $10/month to many people since it's essentially what YouTube Red is (or thereabouts). In my case, as I said in the OP, the only Android app I care to run on Windows is New Pipe because it has functionality that isn't known to be available on Windows in a single executable. https://f-droid.org/wiki/page/org.schabi.newpipe Bluestacks is one choice already mentioned by me in my prior reply (snipped in the quoted content in your reply to my reply). I'm currently testing the Android ISO inside of a virtual machine. That seems to be the most direct method - although I've been failing but probably only because I didn't follow (or create) a tutorial yet. I'm sure I'll get it running though as there is no technical reason Android shouldn't run inside of Windows. Another that comes to mind is the Android SDK that includes an emulator. It's part of Android Studio used by developers to use their Windows hosts to do Android programming plus it allows testing under different Android scenarios. Since you aren't doing programming but just want to run an Android app, it's likely an emulator bundled in a programming IDE is overkill for your needs so I didn't suggest it before. See https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html. Yup. That was one of the suggestions I found when I searched. My plan is simple (and always is simple). 1. I'll try VirtualBox with an Android ISO 2. If that fails, I'll try Nox (which was often recommended) 3. If that fails, I'll try another one on the list. Another is to use an image of the Android OS ran as a guest OS inside of a virtual machine. Fox already mentioned that solution. Yes. What I like about this solution is that I already run a bevy of operating systems inside of the virtual machine so this would be just one more. I like the simplicity and directness of this solution. KISS is good. Now it's up to *YOU* to decide which environ under which to run an Android app that really has no use on a desktop PC. There is better software for PCs designed to run natively on that hardware+OS platform than to emulate Android apps on an alien platform. For your example of NewPipe, I don't see it is better to emulate it on a PC versus software meant to run under an OS on the PC. You bring up a good point that the software we run on Android "mostly" already exists (in better form) on Windows. This is a long post so I'll post separately the list of Android APKs I have stored on my phone (they're automatically created and stored and archived to Windows) where I think mainly the photo manipulators and calculators and sand timers and some of the wifi debuggers and police scanners may be better than those on Windows (along with New Pipe) - but not much else offhand. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , John Doe
wrote: Not me. The only thing that matters is the ability to transfer files between various devices and my PC. This is trivial to transfer files over the local LAN from Android to Windows and vice versa. I've been doing it for years using zero software on Windows and just the one "FTP Server (Free)" open-source software on Android. Windows file explorer works fine, as does FileZilla or WinSCP freeware to transfer *anything* from or to Android and Windows over the LAN. You can even use rsync-like tools to sync your Android memory with your Windows hard disk. The idea of looking for an Android app that works on Windows sounds silly to me, considering the excess of Windows' apps that has existed for decades. VanguardLH kindly wrote up an extensive analysis of his Android tools with respect to their need on Windows, as did I in response. Other than the really free nice hourglass timers on Android, and the very easy to use free photo manipulation tools, Wi-Fi debuggers (particularly for laptops), Bluetooth OBD Scanners (for laptops), SMS/Visual Voicemail apps, police/fire scanners, and calculator widgets, I think most of the rest of the tools on my Android phone have better Windows counterparts. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch wrote:
He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC): Is this the basic process? 1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS 2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS 3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine 4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go. But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist? Here is what I did with VMware Player 1. Download the Android X86 32-bit ISO file. 2. Configure a new virtual machine in VMware Player Installer ISO: set to the Android X86 ISO OS: "Other Linux 3.x kernel" (change; VMware wanted to default to BSD) 2GB RAM 32GB HDD 3. Start the new virtual machine, which then boots from the ISO as a virtual CD drive 4. The ISO asks if I want to (a) Run Android from the CD without installation (b) Install Android to the hard disk (virtual hard disk, that is). If I choose (a) to run from the CD, there is no permanent storage. Anything I download, any APKs I install, are gone when I next boot from the CD. 5. I choose (b) to install Android on the (virtual) HDD. 6. The ISO asks a few more questions * Do I want to install GRUB -- yes * How to format the file system -- ext4 7. The ISO then installs Android on the virtual HDD. 8. The ISO asks permission to reboot the VM. 9. I agree to reboot. 10. I disconnect the virtual CD to ensure that the VM boots from the virtual HDD and not from the "Live CD" ISO. FWIW here are a couple of articles about running Android-x86 in VMware. They are now a few years old and refer to older versions of Android, but they may be useful. * https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation...rkstation.html * http://xmodulo.com/how-to-install-an...re-player.html Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured). a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso I don't know about VirtualBox, but VMware does not have guest additions for Android. The VMware guest additions for Linux do not install on Android. 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android32b Type: Other Version: Other/Unknown Memory size: 64MB Your typical Android device today has 2GB or 3GB RAM, so that is what I would use for memory here. I expect 64MB is not enough for modern versions of Android. If you are running from "Live CD" (ISO) without installation, I believe it uses part of this virtual RAM to simulate storage. So you don't want to make this too small. Create a virtual hard disk now. VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image) Dynamically allocated Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB Your typical Android device today has 16GB or 32GB of storage, so that is what I would use for HDD size here. 2GB is probably not enough for the Android system. Start Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB) Start Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation == I chose this option That may be OK for an initial look-see. The catch with running without installation is that there is no permanent storage. Anything you download, any APKs you install, are gone when you next run Android from the Live CD (ISO). Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung. I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back. Your virtual machine's RAM setting (64MB) looks way too low. Try 2GB or 3GB. If you still can't get it working, try one of the preconfigured VM images from osboxes.org. Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox. So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass. -- Kind regards Ralph |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , Joe Scotch wrote:
This is a long post so I'll post separately the list of Android APKs I have stored on my phone (they're automatically created and stored and archived to Windows) where I think mainly the photo manipulators and calculators and sand timers and some of the wifi debuggers and police scanners may be better than those on Windows (along with New Pipe) - but not much else offhand. It might take me a while to go through this list of over 250 installed free apps on my Android phone where I'd have to see which apps are better than the Windows freeware counterparts. 1. Android has great free photo manipulators (easy to use) 2. Android has great calculator widgets 3. Android has great WiFi debuggers (particularly useful on laptops) 4. Android has great ECU scanners (although I use dealer software for that) 5. Android has great sand timers and alarm clocks 6. Android has great police & fire scanners (although web pages work too) That's about it offhand, but I haven't gone through the list below yet. Generally I only use the acknowledged best freeware, but I also experiment with dozens of programs every day so some of those in the list might not be the best possible out there. Nonetheless, here's the list of apps installed on my Android phone which I will look through to see which are better than what is on Windows. 321 Payer-my.bhul.video.player-1303-v1.3.3.apk 3C Toolbox-ccc71.at.free-19232-v1.9.2.3.apk AdAway-org.adaway-60-v3.2.apk Adobe Photoshop Sketch-com.adobe.creativeapps.sketch-20200001-v2.0.162.apk AFWall+--dev.ukanth.ufirewall-15902-v2.9.1.apk AirDroid-com.sand.airdroid-30203-v4.1.0.4.apk Alarm Klock-com.angrydoughnuts.android.alarmclock-15-v2.3.apk All-In-One Toolbox-imoblife.toolbox.full-150155-v7.2.4.apk All video player-com.sva.mediaplayer.hdvideoplayer-4-v4.0.apk Allo-com.google.android.apps.fireball-20070018-v8.0.035_RC09 (armeabi-v7a_xhdpi).apk Android Explorer-com.iamtrk.androidexplorer-1-v1.0.apk Androsens 2-com.tritop.androsense2-13-v1.93.apk AndSMB-lysesoft.andsmb-31-v3.4.apk Angulo-eu.domob.angulo-20000-v2.0.apk AnySoftKeyboard-com.menny.android.anysoftkeyboard-1726-v1.8.401.apk App Backup & 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I find the photo-manipulation software on Android incredibly easy to use compared to, say, The GIMP or Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, etc. Apples and oranges. There's no way any Android phone GUI can handle the breadth of surgical photo manipulation tasks that Photoshop is designed to handle. |
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/nIn , "M.L."
wrote: I find the photo-manipulation software on Android incredibly easy to use compared to, say, The GIMP or Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, etc. Apples and oranges. There's no way any Android phone GUI can handle the breadth of surgical photo manipulation tasks that Photoshop is designed to handle. I think that's the whole point. Take my Hourglass APK as an example: Hourglass-com.alaskalinuxuser.hourglass-6-v1.6.apk For example, the Android "hourglass" app is fantastically simple. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alaskalinuxuser.hourglass Does something that powerfully simple app does exist for Windows? The power is in the UI. 1. You bring up the app 2. You slide the slider for the time 3. And that's it. Does something that simple exist on Windows for an hourglass timer? Same with the no-longer-free "Paper Artist" tool that I use on Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.paperartistgp It's so ridiculously simple that I would love to see an equivalently simple and yet powerful Windows clone. 1. You bring up the photo in the app 2. You press a button which manipulates it 3. And the power is you "swish" your finger over it to modify beautifully Does something that powerfully simple even exist on Windows? |
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/nIn , Jesper Kaas
wrote: I have tried Bluestack a few years ago. It worked more or less OK. But it was running something in the background from time to time using 25% CPU even when no APK was running. Did not like that, so I removed it. Thanks for helping out on the on-topic question at hand whose answers will benefit all Windows users if they also want to have Android apps. It looks like the top three Android emulation choices might be. 1. First just try to get an Android VM working 2. If that fails, try Nox or BlueStack 3. If those fail (they probably won't) - then try the rest in turn. Thanks for the advice because the most expensive part of freeware is testing all of them just to find the ones that work best. |
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/nIn , Ralph Fox
wrote: Here is what I did with VMware Player FWIW here are a couple of articles about running Android-x86 in VMware. They are now a few years old and refer to older versions of Android, but they may be useful. * https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation...rkstation.html * http://xmodulo.com/how-to-install-an...re-player.html Thanks for that help on your VMWare settings. They seem echoed in the tutorials below that I will try next. How to install Android inside of VirtualBox in Windows https://www.howtogeek.com/164570/HOW...IN-VIRTUALBOX/ This is an Android 5.0 lollipop specific tutorial http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/2015/03...albox-windows/ This is an Android 6.0 marshmallow specific tutorial http://www.tactig.com/install-androi...virtualbox-pc/ This is an Android 7.0 nougat specific tutorial http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/ |
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn , Jesper Kaas wrote: I have tried Bluestack a few years ago. It worked more or less OK. But it was running something in the background from time to time using 25% CPU even when no APK was running. Did not like that, so I removed it. Thanks for helping out on the on-topic question at hand whose answers will benefit all Windows users if they also want to have Android apps. It looks like the top three Android emulation choices might be. 1. First just try to get an Android VM working 2. If that fails, try Nox or BlueStack 3. If those fail (they probably won't) - then try the rest in turn. Thanks for the advice because the most expensive part of freeware is testing all of them just to find the ones that work best. In 2016, I did this too. I don't remember using Nox. I couldn't get Android VM to work well in both VirtualBox and VMware Workstation. BlueStack was the best one that worked for me. -- Quote of the Week: "The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant." --Indian Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- | |o o| | ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / ( ) |
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/nIn , Joe Scotch wrote:
Thanks for that help on your VMWare settings. They seem echoed in the tutorials below that I will try next. I got a *lot* further with your help. Now Android runs, but the mouse doesn't work yet inside of Android on Windows. But other than that - it's looking good. I followed this tutorial with the exceptions noted below: http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/ To add to our combined tribal knowledge, here is my log file. 1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (tutorial separately found) a. Find the latest stable version: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT (5.1.30) http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/ b. Download the latest stable ISO: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe c. Download the latest stable guest additions: http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso 2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB) https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso 3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried: Name: Android-7-nougat-32b Type: Linux Version: Other Linux (32-bit) Next 4. Memory size: 2048MB Next 5. Create a virtual hard disk now. Create 6. VDI(VirtualBox Disk Image) Next 7. Dynamically allocated Next 8. Virtual hard disk size: 8.00GB Note: This has to be big enough to hold the Android system, plus your apps and your app data. Create 9. Change the number of CPUs from 1 to 2 CPUs: Right click on "Android-7-nougat-32b" and select "Settings" System Processor tab 2 CPU OK 10. Change the display memory from 16MB to 128MB. Right click on "Android-7-nougat-32b" and select "Settings" Display Screen tab 128MB OK 11. Point to the Android vdi file you created: Right click on "Android-7-nougat-32b" and select "Settings" Storage Tree Controller: IDE - (aka remove) Storage Tree + Add IDE Controller Choose existing disk. This PC Local Disk (C:) Users username VirtualBox VMs Android-7-nougat-32b Android-7-nougat-32b.vdi Open 12. Remove the CD Click on the "+CD" icon next to "Controller:IDE" in the Storage Tree Select "Leave Empty" when it asks "would you like to choose a virtual optical disk to put in the drive or leave it empty for now?) 13. Select the "Empty" CD icon inside of "Storage Tree" Change the Attributes from "IDE Primary Sloave to "IDE Secondary Master" and then click on the CD icon to "Choose Virtual Optical Disk File..." and navigate to your Android iso file "android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso" Open OK 14. Select the "Android-7-nougat-32b" and press the green-arrow "Start" button. 15. Choose the "Installation" option when you see a screen saying: Selection choice: Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation Live CD - VESA mode Live CD - Debug mode Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk --- Choose this option! 16. Choose to "Create/Modify partitions" when you see the screen: Choose Partition Please select a partition to install Android-x86: Create/Modify partitions --- Choose this option! OK 17. Do you want to use GPT? No Enter 18. Create new partition from free space. New Enter Primary Enter Size (in MB): 8587.19 Enter Bootable Enter Check the flags say it's bootable. Name=sda1, Flags=Boot Part, Type=Primary, FS Type=Linux, Size(MB)=8587.20 Write Enter yes Enter quit Enter 19. Now you're back to the "Choose Partition" screen. Select the "sda1 unknown VBOX HARDDISK" partition and press Enter That pops up a "Choose filesystem" box asking: Please select a filesystem to format sda1 Do not format ext4 --- select this ntfs fat32 Press Enter and then "Yes" to format. 20. When you are asked want to install Grub Bootloader, select YES and hit enter from your keyboard. 21. For system directory as read-write select Yes and hit enter 22. I didn't need this step... Then go to the Devices menu and select "Optical Drives" and then "Choose disk image..." and then "Remove disk from virtual drive". Force Unmount 23. Then press "Reboot" when you see the "Congratulations" menu: Congratulations! Android-x86 is installed successfully Run Android-x86 Reboot --- I selected this http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/ At this point, I get a blue Android setup screen asking me to choose the language, but the Windows mouse doesn't yet put a cursor inside the Android window except for the menus on the VM window. So that's all I need to debug now. |
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/nIn , Joe Scotch wrote:
At this point, I get a blue Android setup screen asking me to choose the language, but the Windows mouse doesn't yet put a cursor inside the Android window except for the menus on the VM window. So that's all I need to debug now. The mouse is strange. And, for some reason, the Guest Additions ISO won't work either. C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxGuestAdditions.iso But Android is up, a Google Play account was created, and I ran Android software on Windows following these tutorials for installing Android 7 Nougat on Windows http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...-nougat-on-pc/ http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/ Using those articles, I now have Android 7.1 running inside of Windows. http://i.cubeupload.com/hb3lIb.jpg I've used Google Play to install Android software in the virtual machine, and it seems to work. http://i.cubeupload.com/LhQbwD.jpg The mouse is quirky, and I can't get the Guest Additions ISO to work but so far those are the only glitches. http://i.cubeupload.com/pXkXrr.png |
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/nIn , Ant
wrote: In 2016, I did this too. I don't remember using Nox. I couldn't get Android VM to work well in both VirtualBox and VMware Workstation. BlueStack was the best one that worked for me. At the moment, I have Android 7.1 Nougat running inside of Windows using VirtualBox (which was already installed and running Linux & Windows). Android isn't as nicely integrated into VirtualBox as is Linux though, so without a tutorial, you'll be wasting too much time setting it up. Even with a tutorial, they skip the steps I already did to set up VirtualBox and they skip the steps to integrate the mouse, screenshots, and clipboard. For example, the guest additions iso won't load. http://i.cubeupload.com/7nCcyp.jpg |
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Joe Scotch wrote:
321 Payer-my.bhul.video.player-1303-v1.3.3.apk Adware Windows: VideoLAN VLC (adfree) 3C Toolbox-ccc71.at.free-19232-v1.9.2.3.apk Adware, superfluous on Windows AdAway-org.adaway-60-v3.2.apk Adware Windows: uBlock Origin, AdBlock Plus for web browser, superfluous in other Windows software Adobe Photoshop Sketch-com.adobe.creativeapps.sketch-20200001-v2.0.162.apk Windows: Krita, MyPaint ... lots of choices. AFWall+--dev.ukanth.ufirewall-15902-v2.9.1.apk Oh puh-leaze, you already know there are robust Windows firewalls. AirDroid-com.sand.airdroid-30203-v4.1.0.4.apk Windows: Brings phone screen to Windows. Not applicable on Windows. Alarm Klock-com.angrydoughnuts.android.alarmclock-15-v2.3.apk Windows: https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...clock+freeware (I'll let you research what features you actually use in Alarm Klock to have in a Windows program). All-In-One Toolbox-imoblife.toolbox.full-150155-v7.2.4.apk Adware Windows: TONS of these all-in-one programs, typically with weak components (better to get single-purpose more robust tools). All video player-com.sva.mediaplayer.hdvideoplayer-4-v4.0.apk Not found at Google Play Store. How many video players do you need? Windows: VideoLAN, MPC-HC, and lots of other choices. Allo-com.google.android.apps.fireball-20070018-v8.0.035_RC09 (armeabi-v7a_xhdpi).apk Oh, yes, there are no Windows chat apps, uh huh. Android Explorer-com.iamtrk.androidexplorer-1-v1.0.apk Windows: Use Windows/File Explorer or many alternatives. Androsens 2-com.tritop.androsense2-13-v1.93.apk Not applicable to a PC. AndSMB-lysesoft.andsmb-31-v3.4.apk Windows: Don't need a Samba client on Windows. Need one on Linux (and Android is a Linux variant). Angulo-eu.domob.angulo-20000-v2.0.apk Not found on Google Play Store. AnySoftKeyboard-com.menny.android.anysoftkeyboard-1726-v1.8.401.apk PCs have real keyboards, not onscreen touchpads. I didn't bother to analyze the rest of your very long list as it is evident you have not inspected those Android apps to see if there are Windows equivalents or even a need on a PC for Android functions related to hardware features of THAT platform (smartphones). |
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In alt.windows7.general Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn , Ant wrote: In 2016, I did this too. I don't remember using Nox. I couldn't get Android VM to work well in both VirtualBox and VMware Workstation. BlueStack was the best one that worked for me. At the moment, I have Android 7.1 Nougat running inside of Windows using VirtualBox (which was already installed and running Linux & Windows). Android isn't as nicely integrated into VirtualBox as is Linux though, so without a tutorial, you'll be wasting too much time setting it up. Even with a tutorial, they skip the steps I already did to set up VirtualBox and they skip the steps to integrate the mouse, screenshots, and clipboard. For example, the guest additions iso won't load. http://i.cubeupload.com/7nCcyp.jpg Yep, it is not easy. :( It looks like it is still not easy. BlueStack is still the best to me. -- Quote of the Week: "The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant." --Indian Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- | |o o| | ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / ( ) |
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On 01/01/18 20:11, Joe Scotch wrote:
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? In another thread, we found that nobody has ported a useful Android open-source tool to Windows, where Andy Burns suggested that Android emulation on Windows might work. Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android? https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...re/fLmXv99riaY As many of us are ancient octogenarians, we've already tried almost every emulator that ever existed by now - so - I simply ask one question here of the people who *ALREADY* use Android emulation on Windows. If you don't already use Android emulation, you probably won't be able to answer the question I don't think. However ... If you do use Android emulation on Windows, what free emulator do you recommend for running an F-Droid open-source tool such as New Pipe is? https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ (I will post the results of a RTFM in a followup but the question is not what free emulators "exist" nor which are in the "top 10" lists - but which free emulator *you* use that you like - and why). The topic is: What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs? Your better off installing it. That's if you have a laptop. Install is as if you where planing on creating a dual boot system. I can tell you from experience. On older laptops it makes windows look and run like ****. on how to install it youtube is your freind. |
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/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
I didn't bother to analyze the rest of your very long list as it is evident you have not inspected those Android apps to see if there are Windows equivalents or even a need on a PC for Android functions related to hardware features of THAT platform (smartphones). It would take too long to go through that list. I went through the installed apps and already characterized that the main things that are on Android but not on Windows on my phone are a. Simple sand timer style quick 10-minute timer apps b. Simple photo manipulation where you swish your finger over the photo c. Powerful Wi-Fi signal strength debugging tools (better than inSSIDer) All in all, I would agree now that I've done the same kind of survey you've done, that the software on Android doesn't have a lot over the software on Windows. The only two that I can think of that I want to port are the sand timers and the New Pipe YouTube Red clone. Maybe a few calculators - but that's about it. |
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/nIn , Ant
wrote: Even with a tutorial, they skip the steps I already did to set up VirtualBox and they skip the steps to integrate the mouse, screenshots, and clipboard. For example, the guest additions iso won't load. http://i.cubeupload.com/7nCcyp.jpg Yep, it is not easy. :( It looks like it is still not easy. BlueStack is still the best to me. As I said, the huge expense of freeware is in the mistakes until you find a good one. I think BlueStacks would have been a better approach, but I had *thought* that since I already have VirtualBox running with ubuntu, that it would be *easy* to just add Android. Sigh. If I don't get the VirtualBox Android to run well, I'll try BlueStack next, and if that fails, then Nox. |
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/nIn , Ant
wrote: BlueStack was the best one that worked for me. This is a tutorial for Bluestack which I will try if I don't like running the Android ISO inside of VirtualBox on Windows. https://www.howtogeek.com/97920/how-...th-bluestacks/ Apparently BlueStack is faster than the way I'm doing it now. |
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Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn , VanguardLH wrote: I didn't bother to analyze the rest of your very long list as it is evident you have not inspected those Android apps to see if there are Windows equivalents or even a need on a PC for Android functions related to hardware features of THAT platform (smartphones). It would take too long to go through that list. I went through the installed apps and already characterized that the main things that are on Android but not on Windows on my phone are a. Simple sand timer style quick 10-minute timer apps b. Simple photo manipulation where you swish your finger over the photo c. Powerful Wi-Fi signal strength debugging tools (better than inSSIDer) All in all, I would agree now that I've done the same kind of survey you've done, that the software on Android doesn't have a lot over the software on Windows. The only two that I can think of that I want to port are the sand timers and the New Pipe YouTube Red clone. Maybe a few calculators - but that's about it. You mentioned AirDroid but that doesn't need an Android emulator to run on Windows. In fact, the point of using Airdroid on Windows is to bring over the phone's screen. That lets you manipulate your phone using your PC, like taking call on your PC. It's also easier texting on a real keyboard on the PC. For NewPipe, "Lightweight YouTube frontend that's supposed to be used without the proprietary YouTube-API or any of Google's (proprietary) play-services. NewPipe only parses the YouTube website in order to gain the information it needs". Screen scraping or element parsing is an iffy method to interface to a web site. It requires the underlying program or site to not change. Google will keep changing their services which means NewPipe has to catch up. I ran into the same situation with other screen scraper or element parsing softwa the moment the source changes, users are dead until the author gets around to making a fix which could be hours or many days or weeks. When something changes at YouTube, I've read where NewPipe users start complaining ""failed to decrypt video URL signature" or other problems. The same user complaints appear when Google changes YouTube and then programs that use youtube-dl (https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/) starts failing. At one time, I used YPOPs (YahooPOPs) to gain access to Yahoo Mail (in the USA, they discontinued POP access unless you paid). YPOPs worked as a local proxy: your e-mail client connected to the YPOPs proxy as though it were the mail server and YPOPs connected to the real server pretending to be the client. When Yahoo changed their web page layout (so screen scraping failed) or changed the definition of the object (elements) within their web pages (so element parsing failed) then YPOPs stopped working. All the YPOPs users had to wait until the author had some free time to work on his program to determine why it started failing and how to fix it. I've QA'd enterprise screen scraping sofware (to merge medical databases from different HMOs) and the requirement was the screens couldn't change on for the underlying programs that were getting merged. If the screens changed, it was pretty easy to redefine the new UI change but a change did have to get registered to get the screen scraping to work again. How big is the development team for NewPipe? Just one guy or a multi-member team that is worldwide (different timezones so different waking periods)? "Built by F-Droid" doesn't really say how many dev(s) are assigned to working on this project. F-Droid is a repository, not a software dev. Volunteers come and go. https://newpipe.schabi.org/ mentions "Team NewPipe". Well, we all know Internet lets entities bloat themselves. So just how many are on this "team"? From what I found in their blog, "Christian Schabesberger, initiator and maintainer of NewPipe". So it's just one guy. Well, he works, eats, and sleeps so he won't be available at all times to work on his app and being just one guy means it'll take longer to analyze the change that makes his app fail and time to implement a fix. Since his app is not distributed via the Google Play Store, you won't be getting an automatic update if and when a fixed version is available. Google's service APIs are free. Don't know why the author didn't design a different UI to YouTube but continue to use the API interface which is stable and well defined. No site publishes documentation on the construction on their web pages (because the web page is the document). Seems the author doesn't want to rely on local libs nor write his own own code to issue the commands to the service API. The YPOPs author had to use screen scraping because Yahoo didn't have a service API for mail. He got stuck having to scrape Yahoo's webmail client to deliver and send the e-mails to/from a local e-mail client. With a service API available, that seems the more stable method to access the service while providing whatever custom UI you want for your client. Parsing a web site is not the most reliable method to access that site. "NewPipe is a YouTube player that does not use Google Play Services or YouTube API". Hmm, so the author thinks they need to use the client-side library to issue commands to the service API? Since Windows programs can issue commands to the YouTube API, and since neither Google Play Services or the YouTube app are on Windows, the service API gets used by the Windows software. Not only can Windows programs access the service API, so can web sites (so they can present YouTube videos at their site). See https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/. Present whatever UI you want for your custom player while accessing content from YouTube using the service API. I've seen several times where NewPipe is listed as ad-free. That might only apply to the app itself. At one time, if you use a video stream capture tool (e.g., Jaksta or Applian Replay Media Capture), it would recognize separate video streams: the movie stream would get halted to play another stream for the in-movie ads. A stream capture tool would snag the streams separately so you could capture the movie without any ads. As I recall, Google changed that (I know other sites did) where they merged the ads into one stream. Since there was only one stream, you got stuck with the ads in the captured movie. One of the features of NewPipe is offline watching of a video. That means capturing the video. There are TONS of web browser extensions or proxies that can capture streamed video on Windows. I gave up on extensions and paid for a more robust and highly maintained proxy - which also means it will capture the stream as fast as the server will deliver plus I don't need to leave the web browser (or whatever client connected to the stream) constantly loaded. A 4 hour movie probably takes 10 minutes to capture and I can be doing other stuff with the web browser or even close it during the capture. I know lots of other users employ extensions in their web browsers to capture media streams (mostly from Youtube). However, with in-movie ads where the movie and ad streams are merged, no capture tool is going to avoid the in-movie ads. They can still perform separate capture of separate streams, like when the movie and ads are different streams. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
VanguardLH wrote:
You mentioned AirDroid but that doesn't need an Android emulator to run on Windows. In fact, the point of using Airdroid on Windows is to bring over the phone's screen. That lets you manipulate your phone using your PC, like taking call on your PC. It's also easier texting on a real keyboard on the PC. Well, said another way, you don't need an Android emulator on your Windows host if all you want to do is see and use apps on your Android phone but on your Windows host. Enable USB Debug Mode, plug the phone into a USB port, and AirDroid running on your Windows host can see the phone. You can then use the AirDroid UI to use phone apps. You don't need to root your phone, either, to use AirDroid (requires the AirMirror plug-in on the phone and USB Debugging to send/receive data to the AirDroid program on the Windows PC). There are similar Windows programs to bring the phone's screen to the Windows host but I decided on AirDroid. It worked well. The apps were running on the native platform (hardware+OS) for which they were designed at at full speed (not inside an emulator). I eventually dropped AirDroid because my Android smartphone sits on my desk where is my Windows host. I could see the apps inside of AirDroid running on my Windows host or I could just pick up the smartphone and use it. Was simpler to just pick up the phone to use it. There is a web interface using AirDroid so you could be on any host running a web browser to access your Android phone wherever it happens to be. Instead of installing software on your Windows PC, you use whatever web browser is already on it. I suspect a client app must be installed on the phone so the web service can access the phone. Obviously response will be dictated on the Internet access speed the phone has at the time. The USB connection was always fast. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn , Ant wrote: Even with a tutorial, they skip the steps I already did to set up VirtualBox and they skip the steps to integrate the mouse, screenshots, and clipboard. For example, the guest additions iso won't load. http://i.cubeupload.com/7nCcyp.jpg Yep, it is not easy. :( It looks like it is still not easy. BlueStack is still the best to me. As I said, the huge expense of freeware is in the mistakes until you find a good one. I think BlueStacks would have been a better approach, but I had *thought* that since I already have VirtualBox running with ubuntu, that it would be *easy* to just add Android. Sigh. If I don't get the VirtualBox Android to run well, I'll try BlueStack next, and if that fails, then Nox. Yeah, I gave up on Android VMs. I also thought it would be easy like Linux and other OSes. Please kindly let us know your progress. ;) -- Quote of the Week: "The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant." --Indian Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- | |o o| | ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / ( ) |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn , Ant wrote: BlueStack was the best one that worked for me. This is a tutorial for Bluestack which I will try if I don't like running the Android ISO inside of VirtualBox on Windows. https://www.howtogeek.com/97920/how-...th-bluestacks/ Apparently BlueStack is faster than the way I'm doing it now. Way faster and easier. Also, there are a few annoying things for free users. It likes to install apps to make up the costs. :( -- Quote of the Week: "The world flatters the elephant and tramples on the ant." --Indian Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- | |o o| | ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and URL/link. \ _ / ( ) |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
There are similar Windows programs to bring the phone's screen to the Windows host but I decided on AirDroid. It worked well. I tried *all* the possible solutions, from Kies to AirDroid, but what I ended up using, which works for me, is this: a. I rooted the phone using KingoRoot (because the USB port is broken so the phone can never be tethered successfully). b. I put F-Droid "FTP Server (Free) on it (which has a payware knockoff on Google Play) after testing *all* (and I mean all) the FTP servers on Android (dozens - maybe even two score). c. I "can" use the Windows networking URL "ftp://192.168.1.2:2121" but I've found out, over the years, that WinSCP and then FileZilla were far more reliable than Windows in the situation where I turn on and off the FTP server and I come back and re-use an old connection. Windows file explorer just screws up completely in those circumstances, where both WinSCP and FileZilla work fine (so it's just Windows screwing up). Since the phone is rooted, I copy the HOSTS file easily from Windows to Android, and since all the phones in the LAN have the FTP server and App Backup & Restore freeware, I easily copy any APK from one phone to another so that I can install them even though I myself don't have Google Play or anything Google on my phone that I could delete as root. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
You mentioned AirDroid but that doesn't need an Android emulator to run on Windows. In fact, the point of using Airdroid on Windows is to bring over the phone's screen. That lets you manipulate your phone using your PC, like taking call on your PC. It's also easier texting on a real keyboard on the PC. I agree with you in that you've convinced me that there really isn't much on Android that isn't already on Windows. About the only thing I can say, interestingly enough, is that the functionality of New Pipe isn't yet on Windows. The functionality of New Pipe is on Windows in multiple pieces, but not in a single app (as far as anyone knows). For NewPipe, "Lightweight YouTube frontend that's supposed to be used without the proprietary YouTube-API or any of Google's (proprietary) play-services. NewPipe only parses the YouTube website in order to gain the information it needs". I agree that seems to be what it does. NewPipe uses the public API. I think that's why Google hasn't shut them down, since it would be simple for Google to read the New Pipe source code and then just change things on the Google side so that New Pipe fails to work. Screen scraping or element parsing is an iffy method to interface to a web site. That's probably true. But it has been working for years now. And Google certainly knows about it and can read the source code. And Google certainly knows how many hits they get from new pipe users. It requires the underlying program or site to not change. Yup. Google will keep changing their services which means NewPipe has to catch up. I've been using New Pipe for years, so, they've been keeping up. I ran into the same situation with other screen scraper or element parsing softwa the moment the source changes, users are dead until the author gets around to making a fix which could be hours or many days or weeks. Yup. Look at how Google killed that free phone app years ago? Was it "Viber"? I forget which app it was, but a single change in the API by Google killed their business model (as I recall). When something changes at YouTube, I've read where NewPipe users start complaining ""failed to decrypt video URL signature" or other problems. Oh. Hmmm.... you seem like an accurate poster so I believe you. New Pipe has had hiccups (they call it beta after all). And you have to realize there are *knock offs* to New Pipe. Let's not confuse the knock offs with the original source-code app. The same user complaints appear when Google changes YouTube and then programs that use youtube-dl (https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/) starts failing. We have to remember that the URL above is to an app that I think *sucks* so we have to keep in mind that there are different things which have the same name. This, for example, is the youtube downloader I use: https://youtube-dl.org/downloads/latest/youtube-dl.exe These, I think, suck. https://github.com/MrS0m30n3/youtube-dl-gui https://www.videohelp.com/software/youtube-dl-gui https://bitbucket.org/qwertz19281/yaytdlfrontend/src etc. Likewise, this is the New Pipe opensource tool I use: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ These knockoff of the same name, I think suck: https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...k.new.guidepip https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ii.new.guidepp https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...pips.netonline etc. How big is the development team for NewPipe? Just one guy or a multi-member team that is worldwide (different timezones so different waking periods)? Don't know. Here is their web page: https://newpipe.schabi.org/ Doesn't say much about "them" though. It's just about the app. https://newpipe.schabi.org/ mentions "Team NewPipe". Yes. I agree. Not much there about "them". I can say I've been using it for a few years now (don't remember exactly how long) and it's been fine - but I fell for the Google Play knockoffs for a while and was disgusted with them before I realized that the only New Pipe to use is the one we're talking about here. Well, we all know Internet lets entities bloat themselves. So just how many are on this "team"? From what I found in their blog, "Christian Schabesberger, initiator and maintainer of NewPipe". So it's just one guy. Hmmm... you found good information that I didn't know. Well, he works, eats, and sleeps so he won't be available at all times to work on his app and being just one guy means it'll take longer to analyze the change that makes his app fail and time to implement a fix. Since his app is not distributed via the Google Play Store, you won't be getting an automatic update if and when a fixed version is available. Those are red herrings. It's like saying you shouldn't buy a house because the garage door spring can break on you. I don't even have Google Play on my Android phone, and I removed *everything* that had anything to do with Google (e.g., the Advertiser ID and Google Framework and anything I could). So, an "automatic update" is the least of my issues. Philosophically, I never upudate (did you watch Sideline go down the tubes, or ES File Explorer?). The less you update, the better, IMHO (philosophically). Google's service APIs are free. Don't know why the author didn't design a different UI to YouTube but continue to use the API interface which is stable and well defined. No site publishes documentation on the construction on their web pages (because the web page is the document). I think Google "might" publish its API. For example, I once geolocated my wife's phone simply by knowing here SSID, and then asking a developer to run his code (each query is logged and recorded by Google to prevent abuse), and it geolocated her instantly - just by sitting in our pajamas from a computer. So, it's a fact you can geolocate anyone if their phone has an SSID and if you guess where they may be located (so you have the second SSID) since the Google API won't give you the location of the phone unless you have two SSIDs in proximity to each other. "NewPipe is a YouTube player that does not use Google Play Services or YouTube API". Hmm, so the author thinks they need to use the client-side library to issue commands to the service API? You seem to understand New Pipe far better than I do, since I only use it. I'm not skeptical of it - but skepticism is good. All I know is that it does what no other app does, but New Pipe, unfortunately, only works on Android (not on iOS nor on Windows). I've seen several times where NewPipe is listed as ad-free. You must be careful here - because there are MANY apps that seem to have taken the New Pipe sourcecode and did what they wanted with it, including adding their own ads! There was one called "AT NewPipe" which I can't find anymore on Google Play, but I had it - and it sucked - and I didn't know that this was just a knockoff. So we have to be careful that the "real" New Pipe is what we're talking about. The real New Pipe has no ads anywhere - which includes the videos but which also includes the app ads. The knockoffs have ads and they break a lot (from my experience with the AT New Pipe knockoff at least). All in all, your information is fantastically factual, well researched, based on intelligent assessment and logical. I don't really see, given I'm similar to you, why you seem to suspect what I seem to love, but maybe it just boils down to the fact that your suspicions will eventually be borne out to be true. |
What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?
/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:
John Doe is a known troll: nymshifter, starts bait threads, insulting or flippant replies, attacks respondents that don't agree, feeds other trolls, cross-posts into dump/garbage/unrelated groups. Oh. OK. I'll plonk him then. I thought he was serious at first, but then he went off the edge pretty quickly. I'll stop responding to him. Thanks for responding to my list of Android apps, where, I hadn't thought about it much before you responded, but you proved to me that there's really not a whole lot on Android that isn't already on Windows. The one thing, I think, Android has over Windows, is the *simplicity* of some apps, such as the sandtimer hourglass egg timer apps. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alaskalinuxuser.hourglass I have never found that simplicity on Windows yet. |
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