Tablet problems Still
 

I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in
services.msc

That was a couple of months ago.

Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803.

I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819.
available for the OS.

Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803. If not
is MS still updating 1709?





--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

Tablet problems Still
 

Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in
services.msc

That was a couple of months ago.

Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803.

I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819.
available for the OS.

Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803. If not
is MS still updating 1709?

kb4284819 is 2018-06 Cumulative (a few hundred megabytes sized).
That's a "Patch Tuesday" patch for June.

And you are correct, that kb4056254 is some kind of "actual bandaid"
for the Upgrade process. More details here.

https://windowsreport.com/kb4056254-windows-10/

The machine will probably bring itself up to June patch
level, before upgrading to 17134.1.

Paul

Tablet problems Still
 

On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in
services.msc

That was a couple of months ago.

Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803.

I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819.
available for the OS.

Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803.Â* If not
is MS still updating 1709?

I don't have a direct answer to your question, but I wonder if you've
looked at the error log on your tablet to see what it tells you about
the process.

I'm also curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

--
best regards,

Neil

Tablet problems Still
 

Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019

Tablet problems Still
 

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019

I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

--
best regards,

Neil

Tablet problems Still
 

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019

I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems!

Tablet problems Still
 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 11:27:37 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019

I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems!

What does that mean? What's happening in April 2019?

Tablet problems Still So much for that MS fix
 

On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in
services.msc

That was a couple of months ago.

Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803.

I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819.
available for the OS.

Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803.Â* If not
is MS still updating 1709?

OP: After reading what was posted to this thread, I decided to try 1803
again. I did a Disk clean including system files, I performed a Update
Troubleshooting routine, and then did the install.

The download went well, and the installation started, When it reached
22% it crapped out and return to the old OS.

I am using MS defender as a security program on the tablet. With the
Windows Update turned of Defender does not update. That is why I turned
it on and discovered the addition 1709 updates.


--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

Tablet problems Still
 

Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 11:27:37 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019

I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems!

What does that mean? What's happening in April 2019?


I suspect mechanic lives in Britain.

Ed

Tablet problems Still
 

Ed Cryer wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 11:27:37 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019

I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems!

What does that mean? What's happening in April 2019?


I suspect mechanic lives in Britain.

Ed

No matter what that cryptic statement means, I've put
an extra tin of baked beans in the pantry.

Paul

Tablet problems Still So much for that MS fix
 

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/22/2018 1:09 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in
services.msc

That was a couple of months ago.

Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803.

I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819.
available for the OS.

Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803. If
not is MS still updating 1709?

OP: After reading what was posted to this thread, I decided to try 1803
again. I did a Disk clean including system files, I performed a Update
Troubleshooting routine, and then did the install.

The download went well, and the installation started, When it reached
22% it crapped out and return to the old OS.

I am using MS defender as a security program on the tablet. With the
Windows Update turned of Defender does not update. That is why I turned
it on and discovered the addition 1709 updates.

I'd at least install kb4056254.

And you don't need Windows Update to get definition files.
There are EXE files here, varying from around 105MB to 140MB,
with the definitions in them. Select the version for your OS.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/wdsi/definitions

*******

On a failed Upgrade, you can:

1) Check the log files. There are two log files. The
smaller logfile is generated during the file copy
phase. Once the reboots start happening, a second
logfile is kept for those. Read the log and look for
breadcrumbs.

2) Do the usual stuff. The first command checks whether
a flag is set, indicating a problem. The second command
actually scans the OS for problems. The third command
scans and repairs. You can do these in that sequence
from an Administrator Command Prompt.

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /CheckHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /ScanHealth

Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth

This one comes next. RestoreHealth ensures the contents
of WinSXS are sound. This one checks System32 and the
files linked in from WinSXS.

sfc /scannow

In Windows 10, those are supposed to go online if
they need files.

You really want to look at logfiles for clues. Alternately,
use your Google Foo, with search terms like

"Windows 10 Upgrade 22% fail"

as the percentage indicators, if consistent enough from
one user failure to another, are decent breadcrumbs to
use for a search.

You should find some threads to scroll through. Notice
in this example, there is a spread on percentage,
with either 22% or 24% reported.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-2baef3aee7fb

Paul

Tablet problems Still
 

Paul wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 11:27:37 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019
Â*
I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems!

What does that mean? What's happening in April 2019?


I suspect mechanic lives in Britain.

Ed

No matter what that cryptic statement means, I've put
an extra tin of baked beans in the pantry.

Â*Â* Paul

Brexit means Brexit.

Ed

Tablet problems Still
 

Ed Cryer wrote:
Paul wrote:
Ed Cryer wrote:
Char Jackson wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2018 11:27:37 +0100, mechanic
wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 20:39:08 -0400, Neil wrote:

On 6/22/2018 4:09 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
Neil wrote:

curious as to why you want to upgrade it in the first place?

Because if he doesn't, it will become unsupported by April 2019
Â*
I suppose there's a lot of time to waste between now and then.

In April 2019, upgrading Windows will be the least of our problems!

What does that mean? What's happening in April 2019?


I suspect mechanic lives in Britain.

Ed

No matter what that cryptic statement means, I've put
an extra tin of baked beans in the pantry.

Â*Â*Â* Paul

Brexit means Brexit.

Ed


https://goo.gl/qvJvGU

Ed

Tablet problems Still
 

On 22/06/2018 18:09, Keith Nuttle wrote:
I tried to put update 1803 on my tab but after several downloads,
installs, and return to the old OS, I turned off the Update feature in
services.msc

That was a couple of months ago.

Today, I had some time and decide to make another go at installing 1803.

I find there were two updates to 1709, kb4056254 and kb4284819.
available for the OS.

Are these to correct problems that I was having installing 1803.Â* If not
is MS still updating 1709?


They are still supporting 1709, and I believe also 1703 and probably
even further back.

--

Brian Gregory (in England).

Tablet problems Still
 

On 23/06/2018 19:19, Ed Cryer wrote:

Brexit means Brexit.

Thanks for clarifying.
:-(


--

Brian Gregory (in England).