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Ryan A, Saravanja April 14th 03 07:13 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read in
PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your drive.

Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the OS
gets buggy)
Partition 2 - Other files
Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)

What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?

Thanks

Ryan

--
Ryan A. Saravanja




Nicholas April 14th 03 07:20 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
Windows XP runs best on a single partition formatted NTFS.
It is not wise to move the Page File to another partition on=20
the same hard drive.

NTFS Preinstallation and Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...preinstall.asp

Benchmarking on Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/platf...nchmark.asp=20

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| I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read =
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| PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your =
drive.
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| Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the =
OS
| gets buggy)
| Partition 2 - Other files
| Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)
|=20
| What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
| recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?
|=20
| Thanks
|=20
| Ryan
|=20
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| Ryan A. Saravanja
|


Nicholas April 14th 03 07:20 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
Windows XP runs best on a single partition formatted NTFS.
It is not wise to move the Page File to another partition on=20
the same hard drive.

NTFS Preinstallation and Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/tech/...preinstall.asp

Benchmarking on Windows XP
http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/platf...nchmark.asp=20

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Nicholas

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"Ryan A, Saravanja" wrote in message: =20
...

| I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read =
in
| PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your =
drive.
|=20
| Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the =
OS
| gets buggy)
| Partition 2 - Other files
| Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)
|=20
| What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
| recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?
|=20
| Thanks
|=20
| Ryan
|=20
| --
| Ryan A. Saravanja
|


purplehaz03 April 14th 03 07:33 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
On partition 2 he said other files....... not program files. If by other
files he means data files, music, videos, pictures, spreadsheets, word docs,
txt docs, .iso's, personal my documents stuff, etc.... then it is a good
idea to have two partitons. I agree with the swap file, don't move that. Two
partitons will do fine.


"john dingley" wrote in message
...
First doing what you propose doesn't really work in the way that you have
suggested.

If you install your O/S in one partion and programs in another,. And then
you format the O/S partition and reinstall the O/S none of your programs
will probably work has the new O/S has no record of their installation.

snip



purplehaz03 April 14th 03 07:33 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
On partition 2 he said other files....... not program files. If by other
files he means data files, music, videos, pictures, spreadsheets, word docs,
txt docs, .iso's, personal my documents stuff, etc.... then it is a good
idea to have two partitons. I agree with the swap file, don't move that. Two
partitons will do fine.


"john dingley" wrote in message
...
First doing what you propose doesn't really work in the way that you have
suggested.

If you install your O/S in one partion and programs in another,. And then
you format the O/S partition and reinstall the O/S none of your programs
will probably work has the new O/S has no record of their installation.

snip



Danny Blue April 14th 03 07:47 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
IMHO, format your hard drive as one NTFS partition and let XP function as it
is designed. The most important consideration for data and application files
is to implement a disaster recovery plan. That is to say, how do you recover
when your hard drive craps out?

"sqr" wrote in message
...
As you are new to XP here is my advice regarding the partitions. Having
multiple partitions will protect important files and the like from the OS.
So place XP in the first partition and in the second the data files, but
leave the windows pagefile alone and let the OS control it until you

become
more familiar with it.

When you have Windows installed and running the way you want create an

Image
file and place it on a CD. Also backup the data files and programs and

place
them on a CD as well. When the computer goes south you can get the machine
up and running much quicker then re-installing.

--
Sqr
Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
--

http://sqr.servebeer.com
ftp://sqr.myftp.biz


"Ryan A, Saravanja" wrote in message
...
I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read in
PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your

drive.

Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the OS
gets buggy)
Partition 2 - Other files
Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)

What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?

Thanks

Ryan

--
Ryan A. Saravanja








Danny Blue April 14th 03 07:47 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
IMHO, format your hard drive as one NTFS partition and let XP function as it
is designed. The most important consideration for data and application files
is to implement a disaster recovery plan. That is to say, how do you recover
when your hard drive craps out?

"sqr" wrote in message
...
As you are new to XP here is my advice regarding the partitions. Having
multiple partitions will protect important files and the like from the OS.
So place XP in the first partition and in the second the data files, but
leave the windows pagefile alone and let the OS control it until you

become
more familiar with it.

When you have Windows installed and running the way you want create an

Image
file and place it on a CD. Also backup the data files and programs and

place
them on a CD as well. When the computer goes south you can get the machine
up and running much quicker then re-installing.

--
Sqr
Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
--

http://sqr.servebeer.com
ftp://sqr.myftp.biz


"Ryan A, Saravanja" wrote in message
...
I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read in
PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your

drive.

Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the OS
gets buggy)
Partition 2 - Other files
Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)

What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?

Thanks

Ryan

--
Ryan A. Saravanja








purplehaz03 April 14th 03 07:58 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
"IMHO, format your hard drive as one NTFS partition and let XP function as
it
is designed. "


What do you mean? XP is designed to be able to access multiple partitons,
drives, mapped/network drives/partitions. XP itself should be on its own
single partition, but it is designed to work with multiple partitions and
IMHO putting your data files on another partition is the best way cause it
saves lots of time when reformatting and protects that data if the os dies
and you need to format. If the hard drive dies, well then you hope you
backed up the important stuff to another drive or cd-rw's.

"Danny Blue" wrote in message
...
IMHO, format your hard drive as one NTFS partition and let XP function as

it
is designed. The most important consideration for data and application

files
is to implement a disaster recovery plan. That is to say, how do you

recover
when your hard drive craps out?

"sqr" wrote in message
...
As you are new to XP here is my advice regarding the partitions. Having
multiple partitions will protect important files and the like from the

OS.
So place XP in the first partition and in the second the data files, but
leave the windows pagefile alone and let the OS control it until you

become
more familiar with it.

When you have Windows installed and running the way you want create an

Image
file and place it on a CD. Also backup the data files and programs and

place
them on a CD as well. When the computer goes south you can get the

machine
up and running much quicker then re-installing.

--
Sqr
Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
--

http://sqr.servebeer.com
ftp://sqr.myftp.biz


"Ryan A, Saravanja" wrote in message
...
I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read

in
PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your

drive.

Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the

OS
gets buggy)
Partition 2 - Other files
Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)

What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?

Thanks

Ryan

--
Ryan A. Saravanja










purplehaz03 April 14th 03 07:58 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
"IMHO, format your hard drive as one NTFS partition and let XP function as
it
is designed. "


What do you mean? XP is designed to be able to access multiple partitons,
drives, mapped/network drives/partitions. XP itself should be on its own
single partition, but it is designed to work with multiple partitions and
IMHO putting your data files on another partition is the best way cause it
saves lots of time when reformatting and protects that data if the os dies
and you need to format. If the hard drive dies, well then you hope you
backed up the important stuff to another drive or cd-rw's.

"Danny Blue" wrote in message
...
IMHO, format your hard drive as one NTFS partition and let XP function as

it
is designed. The most important consideration for data and application

files
is to implement a disaster recovery plan. That is to say, how do you

recover
when your hard drive craps out?

"sqr" wrote in message
...
As you are new to XP here is my advice regarding the partitions. Having
multiple partitions will protect important files and the like from the

OS.
So place XP in the first partition and in the second the data files, but
leave the windows pagefile alone and let the OS control it until you

become
more familiar with it.

When you have Windows installed and running the way you want create an

Image
file and place it on a CD. Also backup the data files and programs and

place
them on a CD as well. When the computer goes south you can get the

machine
up and running much quicker then re-installing.

--
Sqr
Overseer: alt.os.windows-xp
--

http://sqr.servebeer.com
ftp://sqr.myftp.biz


"Ryan A, Saravanja" wrote in message
...
I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read

in
PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on your

drive.

Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if the

OS
gets buggy)
Partition 2 - Other files
Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)

What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?

Thanks

Ryan

--
Ryan A. Saravanja










Ryan A, Saravanja April 14th 03 08:04 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 

"purplehaz03" wrote in message
...
On partition 2 he said other files....... not program files. If by other
files he means data files, music, videos, pictures, spreadsheets, word

docs,
txt docs, .iso's, personal my documents stuff, etc.... then it is a good
idea to have two partitons. I agree with the swap file, don't move that.

Two
partitons will do fine.


I meant the program files. It seems people still se the need to reinstall
WinXP once a year (i thought that was over) so this just seems easier. Will
this setup result in a performance hit or will other more serious problems
result?

And does PCWorld not know what they are talking bout?



"john dingley" wrote in message
...
First doing what you propose doesn't really work in the way that you

have
suggested.

If you install your O/S in one partion and programs in another,. And

then
you format the O/S partition and reinstall the O/S none of your programs
will probably work has the new O/S has no record of their installation.

snip





Ryan A, Saravanja April 14th 03 08:04 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 

"purplehaz03" wrote in message
...
On partition 2 he said other files....... not program files. If by other
files he means data files, music, videos, pictures, spreadsheets, word

docs,
txt docs, .iso's, personal my documents stuff, etc.... then it is a good
idea to have two partitons. I agree with the swap file, don't move that.

Two
partitons will do fine.


I meant the program files. It seems people still se the need to reinstall
WinXP once a year (i thought that was over) so this just seems easier. Will
this setup result in a performance hit or will other more serious problems
result?

And does PCWorld not know what they are talking bout?



"john dingley" wrote in message
...
First doing what you propose doesn't really work in the way that you

have
suggested.

If you install your O/S in one partion and programs in another,. And

then
you format the O/S partition and reinstall the O/S none of your programs
will probably work has the new O/S has no record of their installation.

snip





Synapse Syndrome April 14th 03 08:14 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
Ryan A, Saravanja wrote:
|
| And does PCWorld not know what they are talking bout?


PCW and PC Pro are both fine magazines.

ss.



Synapse Syndrome April 14th 03 08:14 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
Ryan A, Saravanja wrote:
|
| And does PCWorld not know what they are talking bout?


PCW and PC Pro are both fine magazines.

ss.



Gazwad April 14th 03 08:24 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
Ryan A, Saravanja asked wistfully...

|| I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read
|| in PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on
|| your drive.
||
|| Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if
|| the OS gets buggy)
|| Partition 2 - Other files
|| Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)
||
|| What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
|| recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?
||

There are numerous ways to set a computer up, many people have no idea how
to do things properly and some people have extra expectations or needs from
the way they have theirs configured.

Anyone who suggests you use a single partition on a single disk is
brain-dead and can be ignored. The use of a second HDD in many ways is
preferable to partitioning a single disk but ultimately the best set-up will
include several disks each with several partitions. Each partition tailored
specifically to its contents/use.

For example I use a 10GB HDD which is split into 3 primary/bootable
partitions and only contains my operating systems.

Another disk is partitioned into 4 and is for data, programs which do not
need installation, temporary internet files and images of my OS.

Another disk has a small partition at the beginning of the disk which is
where the pagefile resides (on its own) the rest of the disk is used for
data, images, backups etc. which do not need to be accessed very often.

Your scheme is sound although having the pagefile in its own partition at
the end of a single drive could prove to be more of a performance hit rather
than a benefit. However that wont be an issue because you are going to
install plenty of RAM, right?

At the end of the day there are several things that need to be considered to
quantify how you can best configure your machine. Example uses, equipment
installed, CPU, RAM, PSU, number/type/size of HDD's.

Perhaps some of the considerations have already been made and that was the
reason you were researching this in the first place.

--

Gazwad

Freelance scientist and people tester.
Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

http://angry.at/gazwad
http://gazwad.servebeer.com



Gazwad April 14th 03 08:24 PM

Drive partitions for windows xp installation
 
Ryan A, Saravanja asked wistfully...

|| I'l be installing the windows xp on a clean formatted drive. I read
|| in PCWorld that it's beneficial to create separate partitions on
|| your drive.
||
|| Partition 1 - Windows XP operating system (so you can reformat if
|| the OS gets buggy)
|| Partition 2 - Other files
|| Partition 3 - windows swap file (prevents fragmentation of the drive)
||
|| What are your views on the subject and if you agree what size do you
|| recommend for the OS and swap file parititions?
||

There are numerous ways to set a computer up, many people have no idea how
to do things properly and some people have extra expectations or needs from
the way they have theirs configured.

Anyone who suggests you use a single partition on a single disk is
brain-dead and can be ignored. The use of a second HDD in many ways is
preferable to partitioning a single disk but ultimately the best set-up will
include several disks each with several partitions. Each partition tailored
specifically to its contents/use.

For example I use a 10GB HDD which is split into 3 primary/bootable
partitions and only contains my operating systems.

Another disk is partitioned into 4 and is for data, programs which do not
need installation, temporary internet files and images of my OS.

Another disk has a small partition at the beginning of the disk which is
where the pagefile resides (on its own) the rest of the disk is used for
data, images, backups etc. which do not need to be accessed very often.

Your scheme is sound although having the pagefile in its own partition at
the end of a single drive could prove to be more of a performance hit rather
than a benefit. However that wont be an issue because you are going to
install plenty of RAM, right?

At the end of the day there are several things that need to be considered to
quantify how you can best configure your machine. Example uses, equipment
installed, CPU, RAM, PSU, number/type/size of HDD's.

Perhaps some of the considerations have already been made and that was the
reason you were researching this in the first place.

--

Gazwad

Freelance scientist and people tester.
Guardian: alt.os.windows-xp
Moderator: alt.warez.uk

http://angry.at/gazwad
http://gazwad.servebeer.com




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