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Keith Nuttle May 13th 14 01:14 PM

Identifying CD
 
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

Henry[_4_] May 13th 14 02:35 PM

Identifying CD
 
Keith Nuttle wrote:

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


Memorex makes a CD marker.

Henry

Mike Swift May 13th 14 03:19 PM

Identifying CD
 
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is not
acceptable.)


This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/


Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

Big Al[_5_] May 13th 14 03:35 PM

Identifying CD
 

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)


This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/



Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but
my old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420,
Multifunction, did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it
home was so so happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I
have a couple 100 printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of
theirs as well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm


pjp[_9_] May 13th 14 03:49 PM

Identifying CD
 
In article ,
says...

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


HP may have stopped support but it's still relatively easy to find at
least DVDs that are Lightscribe, cd's maybe harder to find. Buy by the
100's should last a little while. I even have seen them on sale
occassionally. I also hate to see that technology disappear as I like it
far better than printing labels to attach to a disk which seems it'd be
fraught with balancing issues.

I use Lightscribe for "special" things, mostly if giving some disks as a
gift. Otherwise I have no problem with a regular marker and if need be
because label is too small and handwriting to large, I print out a
listing to include with the disk. Mind you I keep all my disks in
various binders sorted by type of disk, e.g. backup, movie, etc.

Jeff Barnett May 13th 14 04:35 PM

Identifying CD
 
Keith Nuttle wrote, On 5/13/2014 6:14 AM:
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


I believe Canon's Pixma Pro series (Pro-1, Pro-10, and Pro-100) inkjets
all will print on CDs and DVDs with printable surfaces. These printers,
however, are rather expensive - meant for high-quality photography
renderings.

Jeff Barnett

Keith Nuttle May 13th 14 05:18 PM

Identifying CD
 
On 5/13/2014 10:35 AM, Big Al wrote:

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)


This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/




Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but
my old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420,
Multifunction, did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it
home was so so happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I
have a couple 100 printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of
theirs as well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm


From the link you must be printing your CD labels and then appling them
to the CD.

Do you do it frequently, and have you had any problems.


At one time they warned against appling labels to CD because it would
cause problems at the speed the CD spins.

Keith Nuttle May 13th 14 05:20 PM

Identifying CD
 
On 5/13/2014 10:49 AM, pjp wrote:
In article ,
says...

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


HP may have stopped support but it's still relatively easy to find at
least DVDs that are Lightscribe, cd's maybe harder to find. Buy by the
100's should last a little while. I even have seen them on sale
occassionally. I also hate to see that technology disappear as I like it
far better than printing labels to attach to a disk which seems it'd be
fraught with balancing issues.

I use Lightscribe for "special" things, mostly if giving some disks as a
gift. Otherwise I have no problem with a regular marker and if need be
because label is too small and handwriting to large, I print out a
listing to include with the disk. Mind you I keep all my disks in
various binders sorted by type of disk, e.g. backup, movie, etc.

+100

My wife has to submit examples of her work on CD, The Lightscribe
Identified CD made a nice presentation.

Linea Recta[_2_] May 13th 14 05:22 PM

Identifying CD
 
"Big Al" schreef in bericht
eb.com...

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)


This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/



Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but my
old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420, Multifunction,
did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it home was so so
happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I have a couple 100
printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago and
I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of theirs as
well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm




I wonder is this printing technique on CD durable? Isn't the text easily
wiped off with wet or greasy fingers?




--


|\ /|
| \/ |@rk
\../
\/os


G. Ross May 13th 14 07:18 PM

Identifying CD
 
Linea Recta wrote:
"Big schreef in bericht
eb.com...

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)

This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/



Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but my
old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420, Multifunction,
did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it home was so so
happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I have a couple 100
printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago and
I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of theirs as
well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm




I wonder is this printing technique on CD durable? Isn't the text easily
wiped off with wet or greasy fingers?




It is durable. I have several CD's I printed pictures and names in
color and they have survived 6 or 8 years in my shop and truck. They
do not smudge. You have to use "printable" cd blanks.

--
 GW Ross 

 Kinkler's First Law: Responsibility 
 always exceeds authority. 







Linea Recta[_2_] May 13th 14 07:27 PM

Identifying CD
 
"G. Ross" schreef in bericht
...
Linea Recta wrote:
"Big schreef in bericht
eb.com...

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However in
my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has
that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)

This may help :-


http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/



Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but
my
old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420, Multifunction,
did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it home was so
so
happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I have a couple 100
printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and
I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of theirs
as
well as the avforums link.

http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm




I wonder is this printing technique on CD durable? Isn't the text easily
wiped off with wet or greasy fingers?




It is durable. I have several CD's I printed pictures and names in color
and they have survived 6 or 8 years in my shop and truck. They do not
smudge. You have to use "printable" cd blanks.



Sounds good, but I suppose printable CD/DVD are more expensive?
Until now I've always used a hand marker. Of course this doesn't look as
good, but also readability of my handwriting is very bad...




--


|\ /|
| \/ |@rk
\../
\/os


R. C. White May 13th 14 07:31 PM

Identifying CD
 
Hi, Keith.

I can think of 4 ways to label CDs/DVDs. Each way has pluses and minuses.
All of them, of course, put the label on the top side of the disk, NOT the
shiny side which has the actual recorded data.

1. Good old Magic Marker, grease pencil, fountain pen - or a modern
replacement, not a ball-point pen. The advantages of this are obvious, and
others in this thread have pointed out some drawbacks.

2. Print on paper labels and stick them onto the disk. In addition to
other problems mentioned already, such as unbalancing at the CD/DVD player's
high RPM, the label can come unglued, leaving a sticky mess INSIDE the
player that can be hard or impossible to clean, perhaps destroying the
drive.

3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can do
it. They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably special
inks.

4. LightScribe, which does not use a printer at all, but uses the CD/DVD
burner's laser to burn the image directly into the upper surface of the
disk. I bought a couple of packages of these when I first heard of the
technique and actually burned a few of them. (Several coasters, plus a
couple that I was kind of proud of.) But I haven't done another one in
about 5 years and the blank disks are still in the boxes. It was a great
idea that just didn't fit me, I guess. Maybe it has speeded up by now, but
the ones I did took a long time to burn the label into the disk.

For a while, I burned a lot of CDs/DVDs. But now, most of my music is
already done, and I no longer beta-test new operating systems, with a new
build every month to download and burn. I seldom use optical media for
backups, so I don't burn more than a half-dozen disks a year. And i long
ago began to use RW disks, so each new beta build overwrote the previous
version; I just X'ed out my first Magic Marker label and updated it - which
I could not have done with LightScribe.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro with Media
Center


"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ...

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


Jason May 13th 14 07:57 PM

Identifying CD
 
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W

Keith Nuttle May 13th 14 09:15 PM

Identifying CD
 
On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.

Charles Lindbergh May 13th 14 09:27 PM

Identifying CD
 
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.


Out of curiosity, how much data do you wish to send? How many
megabytes?

pjp[_9_] May 13th 14 10:11 PM

Identifying CD
 
In article ,
says...

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.


I use Lightscribe for a personal music cd of myself that I give to
friends. In another case it's a video series I wanted to give as gifts.
In both cases people usually think it's "commercially" done.

For data backup, I often have to much on disk and am forced to instead
create a listing of disks contents I printout and include with disk.

Keith Nuttle May 13th 14 10:11 PM

Identifying CD
 
On 5/13/2014 4:27 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.


Out of curiosity, how much data do you wish to send? How many
megabytes?

It is not that much. Most of the time only a couple of gb.

The problem is that the places she sends it, do not know, and may not
trust mail. The only way they will accept the information is on a CD.

We went through this about 10 years ago, only then they wanted slides
photos. Toward the end before they changed, we had to go all over
Indianapolis to first find slide film and then find someone to develop it.

My wife paints on canvas with acrylic paints. Once the painting is
finished, I take digital photographs. She then submits the paintings to
art galleries, or art associations to convince them to show her work.
Unfortunately these are not Big City organizations, but local galleries
and organization. If you want them to show your work, and they will
only accept examples on CD, if you want your work displayed you submit
your work on CD's. Right now she has about 20 pieces in the Smithfield
NC Chamber of Commerce, (I don't believe she submitted a CD for this)

I suspect that in a half dozen years they will realized they can get the
examples by email, and CD will go the way of the slides.






Charles Lindbergh May 13th 14 10:30 PM

Identifying CD
 
On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:11:46 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 4:27 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.


Out of curiosity, how much data do you wish to send? How many
megabytes?

It is not that much. Most of the time only a couple of gb.

The problem is that the places she sends it, do not know, and may not
trust mail. The only way they will accept the information is on a CD.

We went through this about 10 years ago, only then they wanted slides
photos. Toward the end before they changed, we had to go all over
Indianapolis to first find slide film and then find someone to develop it.

My wife paints on canvas with acrylic paints. Once the painting is
finished, I take digital photographs. She then submits the paintings to
art galleries, or art associations to convince them to show her work.
Unfortunately these are not Big City organizations, but local galleries
and organization. If you want them to show your work, and they will
only accept examples on CD, if you want your work displayed you submit
your work on CD's. Right now she has about 20 pieces in the Smithfield
NC Chamber of Commerce, (I don't believe she submitted a CD for this)

I suspect that in a half dozen years they will realized they can get the
examples by email, and CD will go the way of the slides.


I wonder if they would peruse her work if posted on a website? You
could even password protect the site. Setting up a beautiful gallery
of her work on a free Wordpress site would not require a massive
amount of education or work.

The ability to add, subtract and modify her portfolio, not to mention
the elimination of burning and mailing digital coasters would make
this sound very appealing to me.

Just a different way to get the mule to walk down the canyon.

Mike Swift May 13th 14 11:44 PM

Identifying CD
 
In article , R. C.
White writes
3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can do it.
They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably special
inks.


My HP Photosmart D5460 prints disc perfectly, there's a drop down drawer
and a cassette to put the disc in, this slides under the print heads so
no need to go round in the same way paper does, it's all lined up
automatically. The software that came with the printer can be used to
design simple labels or you can drop in a pre designed one from a more
professional application.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

Keith Nuttle May 14th 14 12:50 AM

Identifying CD
 
On 5/13/2014 5:30 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
I wonder if they would peruse her work if posted on a website? You
could even password protect the site. Setting up a beautiful gallery
of her work on a free Wordpress site would not require a massive
amount of education or work.


We can only hope that some day they will. There are many ways that
could proceed but they have to convince themselves they are not loosing
any thing with the new methods

Even though they are now accepting electronic images on CD, I still have
to work around the requirement that the digital image be X DPI. I
cheat on this as I don't think that some no the difference, and if the
image looks good they accept it.

G. Ross May 14th 14 01:21 AM

Identifying CD
 
Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in articlelkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)


I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.


I scanned one of my old printed CD's and uploaded to Flickr. Pulled
it out of my truck where it has lived for several years. Still looks
the same.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/83195184@N02/14201253353/

--
 GW Ross 

 We are born naked, wet and hungry. 
 Then things get worse. 







Jason May 14th 14 02:16 AM

Identifying CD
 
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lktugi$egu$1
@speranza.aioe.org

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:


I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.


The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You
can include images as background if you want. They come with a servicable
program for making labels; better ones are available but are not free. I
record chamber groups and produce CD's that all think look just fine. The
inkjet-writable CD's cost a couple of cents more than the ordinary ones.
I used Taiyo-Yuden blanks because I've never burned a bad one. I've begun
including a tiny QR code on the CD's that links to the performers'
websites.

Jason

...and no, they don't smear


R. C. White May 14th 14 02:55 AM

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Aha! I haven't looked at one of those. Thanks, Mike.

RC
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San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro with Media
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"Mike Swift" wrote in message ...

In article , R. C.
White writes
3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can
do it.
They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably
special
inks.


My HP Photosmart D5460 prints disc perfectly, there's a drop down drawer
and a cassette to put the disc in, this slides under the print heads so
no need to go round in the same way paper does, it's all lined up
automatically. The software that came with the printer can be used to
design simple labels or you can drop in a pre designed one from a more
professional application.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange


Mike Swift May 14th 14 12:01 PM

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In article ,
Jason writes
The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You can
include images as background if you want. They come with a servicable
program for making labels; better ones are available but are not free. I
record chamber groups and produce CD's that all think look just fine. The
inkjet-writable CD's cost a couple of cents more than the ordinary ones. I
used Taiyo-Yuden blanks because I've never burned a bad one. I've begun
including a tiny QR code on the CD's that links to the performers' websites.


I hate Epson, they do indeed print great results but I've just sent a
new one to the recycle dump. I tried a full set of genuine carts for £60
($100), I thought this was a bit expensive so got a set of compatibles,
it wouldn't even let me print as it didn't recognise them, my HP on the
other hand complains that they aren't genuine but at least lets me use
them.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

Mike Swift May 14th 14 12:07 PM

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In article , R. C.
White writes
Aha! I haven't looked at one of those. Thanks, Mike.


It's a bit long in the tooth but it may still be available somewhere, or
there may be a more recent model from HP.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

Big Al[_5_] May 14th 14 05:15 PM

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Keith Nuttle said on 5/13/2014 12:18 PM:
On 5/13/2014 10:35 AM, Big Al wrote:

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However
in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)

This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/





Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but
my old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420,
Multifunction, did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it
home was so so happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I
have a couple 100 printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of
theirs as well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm



From the link you must be printing your CD labels and then appling them
to the CD.

Do you do it frequently, and have you had any problems.


At one time they warned against appling labels to CD because it would
cause problems at the speed the CD spins.


No, I have stopped printing labels, I print on printable Cd's now.


Big Al[_5_] May 14th 14 05:17 PM

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Linea Recta said on 5/13/2014 12:22 PM:
"Big Al" schreef in bericht
eb.com...

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However
in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)

This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/




Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit,
but my old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420,
Multifunction, did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got
it home was so so happy and surprised to see the feature was there.
I have a couple 100 printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of
theirs as well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm





I wonder is this printing technique on CD durable? Isn't the text easily
wiped off with wet or greasy fingers?




Works great for me. You do have to give them a few minutes to dry of
course. I've never put them in water to test that effect. And I try
to only handle by the center hole.


Big Al[_5_] May 14th 14 05:18 PM

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Keith Nuttle said on 5/13/2014 8:14 AM:
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

Speaking of the devil. Good article today I found.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...urce=howtogeek


Big Al[_5_] May 14th 14 05:28 PM

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Mike Swift said on 5/14/2014 7:01 AM:
In article ,
Jason writes
The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You
can
include images as background if you want. They come with a servicable
program for making labels; better ones are available but are not free. I
record chamber groups and produce CD's that all think look just fine. The
inkjet-writable CD's cost a couple of cents more than the ordinary
ones. I
used Taiyo-Yuden blanks because I've never burned a bad one. I've begun
including a tiny QR code on the CD's that links to the performers'
websites.


I hate Epson, they do indeed print great results but I've just sent a
new one to the recycle dump. I tried a full set of genuine carts for £60
($100), I thought this was a bit expensive so got a set of compatibles,
it wouldn't even let me print as it didn't recognise them, my HP on the
other hand complains that they aren't genuine but at least lets me use
them.

Mike

Go Canon. They are one vendor that makes 3 separate color ink tanks,
making it less expensive to just change one ink when low.
CD printing printers are not that hard to find. Yes the CD's are a bit
more expensive, but I've got CD's that look just like the original.
And cites like http://www.cdcovers.cc/covers have a huge already made
covers for almost any software or product. And there are a ton of
design programs. Hell I used to design in power point before I found a
good program.


Gene E. Bloch[_2_] May 14th 14 10:59 PM

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On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:44:45 +0100, Mike Swift wrote:

In article , R. C.
White writes
3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can do it.
They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably special
inks.


My HP Photosmart D5460 prints disc perfectly, there's a drop down drawer
and a cassette to put the disc in, this slides under the print heads so
no need to go round in the same way paper does, it's all lined up
automatically. The software that came with the printer can be used to
design simple labels or you can drop in a pre designed one from a more
professional application.

Mike


These two printers will print on Printable optical disks:

Epson XP-800
Brother MFC-J875DW

They use the same ink cartridges that are already in the printer.

Others in the same families should do the same.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch[_2_] May 14th 14 11:07 PM

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On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.


The results really depend on the skill of the one who designs the label.

The hardware and software do an excellent job. If you can design a
decent label, you would have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in
submitting your work on either a LightScribe or printable label.

The printable ones have much better contrast, and of course they aren't
monochrome. They also print in not very many seconds, whereas a
LightScibe disk takes on the order of 220 minutes to get scribed.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

pjp[_9_] May 14th 14 11:56 PM

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In article , lid
says...

On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.


The results really depend on the skill of the one who designs the label.

The hardware and software do an excellent job. If you can design a
decent label, you would have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in
submitting your work on either a LightScribe or printable label.

The printable ones have much better contrast, and of course they aren't
monochrome. They also print in not very many seconds, whereas a
LightScibe disk takes on the order of 220 minutes to get scribed.


I assume you meant 20min which is what I'm used to?

Jason May 15th 14 02:03 AM

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On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:01:01 +0100 "Mike Swift"
wrote in article

In article ,
Jason writes
The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You can



I hate Epson, they do indeed print great results but I've just sent a
new one to the recycle dump. I tried a full set of genuine carts for £60
($100), I thought this was a bit expensive so got a set of compatibles,
it wouldn't even let me print as it didn't recognise them, my HP on the
other hand complains that they aren't genuine but at least lets me use
them.

Mike


I print a lot of photos and am pretty picky about quality. I have tried
off-brand ink (the printer didn't complain) but have never been happy
with either the quality or the batch-to-batch consistency. Epson carts
are expensive.

Jason May 15th 14 02:05 AM

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On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:28:09 -0400 "Big Al" wrote in
article om


Go Canon. They are one vendor that makes 3 separate color ink tanks,
making it less expensive to just change one ink when low.

Epson's are like that, too. One of mine has five carts, the other is
seven.

Gene E. Bloch[_2_] May 15th 14 02:24 AM

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On Wed, 14 May 2014 19:56:26 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article , lid
says...

On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.


The results really depend on the skill of the one who designs the label.

The hardware and software do an excellent job. If you can design a
decent label, you would have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in
submitting your work on either a LightScribe or printable label.

The printable ones have much better contrast, and of course they aren't
monochrome. They also print in not very many seconds, whereas a
LightScibe disk takes on the order of 220 minutes to get scribed.


I assume you meant 20min which is what I'm used to?


LOL!

I often read my posts shortly after posting. Looks like I forgot to that
time. Murphy must have been looking over my shoulder.

20 minutes is right unless you're doing 11 labels :-)

BTW, I'm still laughing. And thanks for catching the error.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Paul May 15th 14 04:27 AM

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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Wed, 14 May 2014 19:56:26 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article , lid
says...
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote:

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.
The results really depend on the skill of the one who designs the label.

The hardware and software do an excellent job. If you can design a
decent label, you would have nothing whatsoever to be ashamed of in
submitting your work on either a LightScribe or printable label.

The printable ones have much better contrast, and of course they aren't
monochrome. They also print in not very many seconds, whereas a
LightScibe disk takes on the order of 220 minutes to get scribed.

I assume you meant 20min which is what I'm used to?


LOL!

I often read my posts shortly after posting. Looks like I forgot to that
time. Murphy must have been looking over my shoulder.

20 minutes is right unless you're doing 11 labels :-)

BTW, I'm still laughing. And thanks for catching the error.


You just like your LightScribe discs as black as coal :-)

It's like baking a loaf of bread twice as long,
makes the bread twice as good :-)

*******

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightscribe

"...also notes that "residual chemicals on your fingers could
cause discoloration of the label image". Such chemicals include
common hand lotions and hair care products.[6] Users not
observing these precautions have reported LightScribe discs to
become visibly faded within two months in the worst case.

I guess that means handling those CDs with rubber gloves.

Paul

Big Al[_5_] May 15th 14 09:00 AM

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Jason said on 5/14/2014 9:03 PM:
On Wed, 14 May 2014 12:01:01 +0100 "Mike Swift"
wrote in article

In article ,
Jason writes
The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You can



I hate Epson, they do indeed print great results but I've just sent a
new one to the recycle dump. I tried a full set of genuine carts for £60
($100), I thought this was a bit expensive so got a set of compatibles,
it wouldn't even let me print as it didn't recognise them, my HP on the
other hand complains that they aren't genuine but at least lets me use
them.

Mike


I print a lot of photos and am pretty picky about quality. I have tried
off-brand ink (the printer didn't complain) but have never been happy
with either the quality or the batch-to-batch consistency. Epson carts
are expensive.

I too have tried off brand and 1 outta 10 new cart. don't work and I
have to toss and use another. I'm kinda hedging towards only Canon now.


Gene E. Bloch[_2_] May 15th 14 06:53 PM

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On Wed, 14 May 2014 23:27:59 -0400, Paul wrote:

It's like baking a loaf of bread twice as long,
makes the bread twice as good :-)


You've been reading my cookbook gain!

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Gene E. Bloch[_2_] May 15th 14 07:04 PM

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On Thu, 15 May 2014 10:53:29 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2014 23:27:59 -0400, Paul wrote:

It's like baking a loaf of bread twice as long,
makes the bread twice as good :-)


You've been reading my cookbook gain!


Should be "again" rather than "gain":-)

Still, I'm probably not bad enough to set a Guinness record for typos...

But it is a bit funny in the context of the 220 minute label burn.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

Paul May 15th 14 08:04 PM

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Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Thu, 15 May 2014 10:53:29 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2014 23:27:59 -0400, Paul wrote:

It's like baking a loaf of bread twice as long,
makes the bread twice as good :-)

You've been reading my cookbook gain!


Should be "again" rather than "gain":-)

Still, I'm probably not bad enough to set a Guinness record for typos...

But it is a bit funny in the context of the 220 minute label burn.


I understand you're a very patient person.

And your 220 minute label burn proves it.

Paul



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