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Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
I need to make a simple flyer but I dont have a printer. I will make it
using Wordpad in Win98se, then take it to a local copy shop to print it and make copies. I'll be saving it as a .DOC file. The print shop uses mostly Macintosh computers, but I know they have at least one Windows machine, which is probably Windows 8. Will that computer read my file corectly? What about the Mac computers? (I know not to use fonts that are not included in Windows). -OR- Would it matter if I used my XP machine and used Wordpad from XP??? Thanks |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
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Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
Save it as RTF. You can write it in Wordpad or
Write. They're basically the same. It's what's known as a RichText file. If you can use XP you can also use Wordpad. It should be in \Program Files\Windows NT\Accessories\ But if you have XP you can install Libre Office, which will give you more options and probably better printing. RTF files tend to look a lot like early HTML files. They're fine, but the details of font edges, colors, etc just seem to be less precise than the more modern counterparts. |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
Mayayana wrote:
Save it as RTF. You can write it in Wordpad or Write. They're basically the same. It's what's known as a RichText file. Probably better to use Wordpad, which is newer. Come to think of it, I didn't know Write was even on Windows98, but my memory may be failing me. Some newer programs may not be able to open .wri files anymore, so best to stick with Wordpad and its RTF format. IIRC, some versions of Wordpad may save the file as .doc as the default, but it's really a RTF file, in disguise. If that's the case, it might be best to explicitly save it as RTF, so there's no potential for confusion on the other end (when its being imported). |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 21:24:59 -0600, "Bill in Co"
wrote: Mayayana wrote: Save it as RTF. You can write it in Wordpad or Write. They're basically the same. It's what's known as a RichText file. Probably better to use Wordpad, which is newer. Come to think of it, I didn't know Write was even on Windows98, but my memory may be failing me. I dont think "Write" came with W98. However, I do have it installed, which I probably copied from Windows 3.x years ago. I have not used it in years. But I use Wordpad all the time. I have never bothered to install MS Word or any such programs. I never needed them. Some newer programs may not be able to open .wri files anymore, so best to stick with Wordpad and its RTF format. IIRC, some versions of Wordpad may save the file as .doc as the default, but it's really a RTF file, in disguise. If that's the case, it might be best to explicitly save it as RTF, so there's no potential for confusion on the other end (when its being imported). This I never knew. I thought a .DOC file was a .DOC file. Wordpad does all I need. The flyer I need to make is just text, but will need some large letters (big font size). Actually, I have AMI-PRO too, (which goes way back), but that has it's own format, so I wont use that. Now, I only need to try to remember which fonts are included in Windows. I added lots of them over the years. I suppose to be safe, I should copy all the fonts on the flash drive too, just in case! Thanks! By the way, I have WORDVIEW.exe installed to view never .DOC files. Trying to load them in Wordpad makes wordpad crash! |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
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Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015 23:55:17 -0600, "Bill in Co"
wrote: Thanks! By the way, I have WORDVIEW.exe installed to view never .DOC files. Trying to load them in Wordpad makes wordpad crash! I seem to recall that some versions of both Wordpad and MS Works would or could save files with a .doc extension, but that neither one was a "true" .doc file, per se ("true" here meaning identical in format to one produced by MS Word). Maybe both were .RTF in disguise. As for Windows Write, you just reminded me: sounds like the Win 3.1 days. And I bet it's so old it can't even use long filenames (as just one limitation), so it's best to forget that one. You had me stumped on the long file names. So I tried it. Yep, it does NOT allow long file names. I entered some characters and saved as: "manuscript123.wri". I got an error saying name is too long. Changing it to "manuscri.wri" worked. I have not used it in years. I only copied it from Win3.x so I could read old .WRI files. I'll leave it installed though. It only uses 240K of drive space, so who cares if it's there..... After all, I used to run Windows 3.1 on a 10 Meg HD, and still have lots of space left! When I got a 40 Meg HD I thought I was set for life as far as drive space! :) |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
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Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
Il giorno Thu 02 Jul 2015 05:12:40a, *Mayayana* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio news:mn29vv$97t$1@dont- email.me. Vediamo cosa scrisse: Save it as RTF. You can write it in Wordpad or Write. They're basically the same. It's what's known as a RichText file. or make a pdf file using a free tool -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it :) ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
| or make a pdf file using a free tool
| Yes, Libre Office can do that, which seems like a more dependable format to bring to a printer. As far as I know, RTF is a Windows-only format. It requires a Windows RichEdit window to be displayed. Maybe Mac Office can do it, but that doesn't seem like a smart chance to take when it's not necessary. |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
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Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 12:21:20 -0400, micky
wrote: I'm not sure "just" is the right word. They'll have to install their printer to your computer, which means it will have to be listed in XP's list of printers, or they'll need the installation program that came with their printer but which they may have misplaced, or they'll have to find and download the file from the maker's webste or elsewhere. I was staying in the Armenian Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem when I had to print something. I'm trying to remember what it was but I think it was just a couple pages. Needless to say, I had no printer with me. I did remember to bring a flashdrive with me (as cheap as $4 or 5 now) so I took the file** to a small Arab computer shop in the Moslem Quarter (well, right by the Yaffa Gate) which mostly rented computers to people who worked right there. They had about 15 PCs.) But he couldn't print it. I could watch what he was doing, but I missed the error message. **(I forget what format it had, but it wasn't exotic. Probably from notepad or wordpad.) So I went back to my room and printed the text to a file, an option of almost all text editing programs***. That he had no trouble with. IIUC, one prints the file from a cmd box using DOS commands, It's done. I saved the file as both a .DOC and .RTF. I put it in my XP laptop and the .doc file was all garbage characters, but the .RTF file was fine. When I got to the print shop, they were closed. I thought they were open till 5pm, but they close at 4. I ran into a friend who told me to take it to the library, and they can print it. I went to the library and she connected me to a computer. The .RTF loaded fine, but because I put a small picture on the page, it would not fit on one page. The woman told me she could fix it, and got the header next to the picture, rather than below it, (which is what I wanted anyhow). Then it fit the page and printed perfectly. I only had to pay for the copies, not for any help. I'm very happy with the results. I asked what software was being used, and it's MS Word 10, running Windows 7. That's the first time I ever used Windows 7, or MS Word. MS Word looked very complicted, but worked well for my needs. Windows 7 looks a lot like XP from waht I could see. Thanks for everyone who told me to use .RTF. I quickly found out that ..DOC is useless, if transferred to another OS. |
Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
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Reading a Win98 Wordpad File in Newer Versions of Windows
On 7/3/15 9:09 AM, Paul wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 12:21:20 -0400, micky wrote: I'm not sure "just" is the right word. They'll have to install their printer to your computer, which means it will have to be listed in XP's list of printers, or they'll need the installation program that came with their printer but which they may have misplaced, or they'll have to find and download the file from the maker's webste or elsewhere. I was staying in the Armenian Quarter of the Old City of Jerusalem when I had to print something. I'm trying to remember what it was but I think it was just a couple pages. Needless to say, I had no printer with me. I did remember to bring a flashdrive with me (as cheap as $4 or 5 now) so I took the file** to a small Arab computer shop in the Moslem Quarter (well, right by the Yaffa Gate) which mostly rented computers to people who worked right there. They had about 15 PCs.) But he couldn't print it. I could watch what he was doing, but I missed the error message. **(I forget what format it had, but it wasn't exotic. Probably from notepad or wordpad.) So I went back to my room and printed the text to a file, an option of almost all text editing programs***. That he had no trouble with. IIUC, one prints the file from a cmd box using DOS commands, It's done. I saved the file as both a .DOC and .RTF. I put it in my XP laptop and the .doc file was all garbage characters, but the .RTF file was fine. When I got to the print shop, they were closed. I thought they were open till 5pm, but they close at 4. I ran into a friend who told me to take it to the library, and they can print it. I went to the library and she connected me to a computer. The .RTF loaded fine, but because I put a small picture on the page, it would not fit on one page. The woman told me she could fix it, and got the header next to the picture, rather than below it, (which is what I wanted anyhow). Then it fit the page and printed perfectly. I only had to pay for the copies, not for any help. I'm very happy with the results. I asked what software was being used, and it's MS Word 10, running Windows 7. That's the first time I ever used Windows 7, or MS Word. MS Word looked very complicted, but worked well for my needs. Windows 7 looks a lot like XP from waht I could see. Thanks for everyone who told me to use .RTF. I quickly found out that .DOC is useless, if transferred to another OS. Just remember "LibreOffice to PDF", for future adventures. LibreOffice is available for Windows. Don't try to download it over dialup. It's a "trip to town" package. LibreOffice is on just about every LiveCD in the Linux world. We're paying to hump that around all the time now. It adds more than a 100MB to the DVD. And as an added bonus, when you install Linux, the OS goes online and downloads another metric ton of "Language Packs" that you don't need. But once you have some version of it installed, it's the most practical way to make a WYSIWYG portable PDF. As long as your print is B&W or monochrome, there should be no issue at the printer. If you're doing four color separation, you'll get an earful from the printer about color space, and you having to sign off on the results. PDF supports multiple color spaces, but the tools generating the PDF might not be fluent. And LibreOffice PDF output (coming from Cairo), is nothing to rave about. It's barely adequate. If the job is simple, even if color, I think a more practical way would be a PDF printer driver, rather than have to deal with Libre Office or similar. Color is a lot more tricky to get right, and the last thing the printer wants to hear, is you won't pay for the order because the colors are wrong. That's why tech exists to make "perfect color transfer", in the hands of skilled professionals. If you go to an advertising firm, they can make a thing on their screen, that when printed, looks exactly the same. Their tools talk the same language as the tools the printer staff use. Paul -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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