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dale December 30th 17 12:37 AM

cloud OS?
 
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible

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dale December 30th 17 12:44 AM

cloud OS?
 
On 12/29/17 6:37 PM, dale wrote:
After around 25 years


showing my age ... about 35 years

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dale December 30th 17 12:51 AM

cloud OS?
 
On 12/29/17 6:37 PM, dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible


left out multimedia input/output ... might require hardware buffering
other than memory, might mean the whole idea doesn't work

--
Not a professional opinion unless specified.
dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/

dale December 30th 17 12:54 AM

cloud OS?
 
On 12/29/17 6:51 PM, dale wrote:
On 12/29/17 6:37 PM, dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with
self administration I look back to client/server models and want
something for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including
development? The only thing besides that I would want is hardware
input/output like: CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a
rise to the hardware consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible


left out multimedia input/output ... might require hardware buffering
other than memory, might mean the whole idea doesn't work


network speed/bandwidth ...

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dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/

Mayayana December 30th 17 02:35 AM

cloud OS?
 
"dale" wrote

| After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
| administration I look back to client/server models and want something
| for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.
|
| How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
| byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?

Rather vague. Most of what you do? Which is what?
Java? Why? You're describing a services kiosk with
limited functionality and limited privacy. Sandboxing
makes the former inevitable. Cloud makes the latter
inevitable. Is most of what you do shopping? If not
then why put it on someone else's computer and why
limit the functionality by using wrapper systems like
Java?

On the other hand, if shopping and services via
kiosk is what you want then you need only wait.
Win10 will probably get closer with every update.
Or you could switch to an iPad and use apps.



dale December 30th 17 02:45 AM

The clear ramblings of a a madman
 
On 12/29/17 8:26 PM, Simon bar Sinister wrote:
On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 6:37:24 PM UTC-5, dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...




The clear ramblings of a a madman.


grammar error

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dale December 30th 17 02:45 AM

The clear ramblings of a a madman
 
On 12/29/17 8:26 PM, Simon bar Sinister wrote:
On Friday, December 29, 2017 at 6:37:24 PM UTC-5, dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...




The clear ramblings of a a madman.


grammar error

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dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/

Pabst Blue Ribbon December 30th 17 03:03 AM

cloud OS?
 
dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?


Inferno is what you want.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system)

The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible





dale December 30th 17 04:19 AM

cloud OS?
 
On 12/29/17 9:03 PM, Pabst Blue Ribbon wrote:
dale wrote:
After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?


Inferno is what you want.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(operating_system)



know of anyone running a safe and reliable server and a thin-client?



The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible






--
Not a professional opinion unless specified.
dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/

dale December 30th 17 04:21 AM

cloud OS?
 
On 12/29/17 8:35 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"dale" wrote

| After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
| administration I look back to client/server models and want something
| for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.
|
| How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
| byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?

Rather vague. Most of what you do? Which is what?
Java? Why? You're describing a services kiosk with
limited functionality and limited privacy. Sandboxing
makes the former inevitable. Cloud makes the latter
inevitable. Is most of what you do shopping? If not
then why put it on someone else's computer and why
limit the functionality by using wrapper systems like
Java?

On the other hand, if shopping and services via
kiosk is what you want then you need only wait.
Win10 will probably get closer with every update.
Or you could switch to an iPad and use apps.



I am basically ready to off-load admin in most situations

java byte-code looked like a way to standardize access/delivery

--
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dale - http://www.dalekelly.org/

Roger Blake[_2_] December 30th 17 05:39 AM

cloud OS?
 
On 2017-12-29, dale wrote:
How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible


Sounds awful. However, I reject "the cloud" and prefer to maintain local
control of my resources and data.

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ray carter December 30th 17 04:58 PM

cloud OS?
 
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:37:21 -0500, dale wrote:

After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible


Chromebook?

Matt[_14_] December 30th 17 06:41 PM

cloud OS?
 
dale wrote:

cloud OS?

After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.

How about a terminal/thin-client running a cloud distributed java
byte-code OS with availability of byte-code apps including development?
The only thing besides that I would want is hardware input/output like:
CD/DVD, USB stick, memory card, etc. might give a rise to the hardware
consumable market ...

With the right model I think OS or network development is even possible



Google beat you to it with ChromeOS.

Microsoft would like Windows to be a cloud OS, just so MSFT can charge
you rent on your software.


[followup trimmed]

Michael Logies December 30th 17 06:43 PM

cloud OS?
 
On Fri, 29 Dec 2017 18:37:21 -0500, dale wrote:

After around 25 years of enjoying peer-peer desktop computing with self
administration I look back to client/server models and want something
for most of what I do without my own machine/network admin.


It`s called "Chrome OS" or "Cloudready".

Regards

M.

mechanic December 30th 17 07:01 PM

cloud OS?
 
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 12:41:31 -0500, Matt wrote:

Microsoft would like Windows to be a cloud OS, just so MSFT can charge
you rent on your software.


What's wrong with that? We are already used to a rental system on
our cars (in the UK called Personal Contract Purchase or PCP). It's
the way things are going.


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