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Y2K Returns
On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows
8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. Prepare now. Buy ice chests and ice for your beer, and have a few flashlights available so you can grab the right kind of beer from the cooler..... |
Y2K Returns
On 12/29/2017 12:17 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
BTW,*Y2K*problem*back*then*didn't*create*an y*major*chaos*as. :) I wrote an accounting application in 1992 to 2005 and Y2K was an issue to us. Minor, but probably not as bad as some companies. Our dates were stored as # of days since 1760 I believe. So 1999 was day 239 and 2000 was just one more 240. The real issue was display and user input. We stupidly programmed the engine to just assume 19xx years. How were we to think of 2000 when the engine was developed back in 1970 or so. Anyway we had to apply a 30/70 rule to dates that 12/31/17, 17 was less than 30 years in the future so thus it was 20xx, but 12/31/90 was greater than 30 years thus 19xx. And we had to create a special format for MM/DD/YYYY as we always only displayed 2 digit years. The application was written in a 4GL proprietary code and was interpreted by the engine thus no real applications had to be changed except where users demanded the 4 digit year. Boy those were the days. Months of testing for such a simple one more day in the life of humans. :-) |
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wrote:
On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows 8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. Prepare now. Buy ice chests and ice for your beer, and have a few flashlights available so you can grab the right kind of beer from the cooler..... Who needs an ice chest ? It's -20C outside. You stick your beer outside for 20 minutes, and "it's ready". The coldest spot in Canada right now, at this very instant, is -46C (a place between Yukon territory and BC). An excellent time for these experiments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect Paul |
Y2K Returns
On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:17:09 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: On 29/12/2017 22:06, wrote: On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows 8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. It's called Year 2038 problem, when you need a 64-bit integer to store date and time. Don't worry too much about it! BTW, Y2K problem back then didn't create any major chaos as. :) That was known with the year 2000 problem. At least I will be dead for that one ! or 91 years old for which I will not care. KenW |
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On 12/29/2017 12:29 PM, Paul wrote:
wrote: On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows 8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. Prepare now. Buy ice chests and ice for your beer, and have a few flashlights available so you can grab the right kind of beer from the cooler..... Who needs an ice chest ? It's -20C outside. You stick your beer outside for 20 minutes, and "it's ready". The coldest spot in Canada right now, at this very instant, is -46C (a place between Yukon territory and BC). An excellent time for these experiments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect ** Paul Good spot for "peeing in the wind". :-):-):-) Rene |
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On 12/29/2017 04:20 PM, Wolf K wrote:
[snip] Don't eat yellow snow! That line comes after "Watch where the huskies go". |
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On 30/12/2017 02:10, Big Al wrote:
The real issue was display and user input. We stupidly programmed the engine to just assume 19xx years. How were we to think of 2000 when the engine was developed back in 1970 or so. Anyway we had to apply a 30/70 rule to dates that 12/31/17, 17 was less than 30 years in the future so thus it was 20xx, but 12/31/90 was greater than 30 years thus 19xx. And we had to create a special format for MM/DD/YYYY as we always only displayed 2 digit years. I did a similar job with an old Foxpro/DOS+Netware information system. :) -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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On Sat, 30 Dec 2017 01:17:09 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 29/12/2017 22:06, wrote: On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows 8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. It's called Year 2038 problem, when you need a 64-bit integer to store date and time. Don't worry too much about it! BTW, Y2K problem back then didn't create any major chaos as. :) Didn't cause major chaos because companies spent millions of dollars preparing for it. Those that didn't were not about to advertise their stupidity to the world. Having said that, there was some nonsense scare talk like toasters and ovens not working. My vcr and digital watch were sensibly programmed when they were manufactured, so no problem. In 1987 I wrote software that was y2k compliant (I hope, left the company prior to 2000). |
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On 29/12/2017 22:25, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 12/29/2017 12:29 PM, Paul wrote: wrote: On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows 8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. Prepare now. Buy ice chests and ice for your beer, and have a few flashlights available so you can grab the right kind of beer from the cooler..... Who needs an ice chest ? It's -20C outside. You stick your beer outside for 20 minutes, and "it's ready". The coldest spot in Canada right now, at this very instant, is -46C (a place between Yukon territory and BC). An excellent time for these experiments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect *** Paul I had not heard of the Mpemba effect. Thanks for the pointer. There is a puzzle in the first sentence of the wiki page: "The Mpemba effect, named after Erasto Batholomeo Mpemba (b.1950) in 1963, is the observation that, in some circumstances, warmer water can freeze faster than colder water." Although the original observation was made in 1963 (if you do not take into account Aristotle's observation some 2300 years earlier) when he was still at school, the experiments and joint publication with Dr. Denis G. Osborne did not happen until 1969. "They published the results together in 1969, while Mpemba was studying at the College of African Wildlife Management." How could an observation verified in 1969 have been named after Mpemba in 1963? |
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occam wrote:
On 29/12/2017 22:25, Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 12/29/2017 12:29 PM, Paul wrote: wrote: On December 31, 2017 at exactly midnight, all computers running Windows 8.x and Windows 10, will crash and never work again. Microsoft never told anyone that Windows 8.x and 10 expires on this date. As these computers crash, the entire internet will fail and all electrical service will cease to function worldwide. Prepare now. Buy ice chests and ice for your beer, and have a few flashlights available so you can grab the right kind of beer from the cooler..... Who needs an ice chest ? It's -20C outside. You stick your beer outside for 20 minutes, and "it's ready". The coldest spot in Canada right now, at this very instant, is -46C (a place between Yukon territory and BC). An excellent time for these experiments. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mpemba_effect Paul I had not heard of the Mpemba effect. Thanks for the pointer. There is a puzzle in the first sentence of the wiki page: "The Mpemba effect, named after Erasto Batholomeo Mpemba (b.1950) in 1963, is the observation that, in some circumstances, warmer water can freeze faster than colder water." Although the original observation was made in 1963 (if you do not take into account Aristotle's observation some 2300 years earlier) when he was still at school, the experiments and joint publication with Dr. Denis G. Osborne did not happen until 1969. "They published the results together in 1969, while Mpemba was studying at the College of African Wildlife Management." How could an observation verified in 1969 have been named after Mpemba in 1963? One of the reasons I provided that article, is the absurdity of it all. Other properties of water have been studied with great precision. That one, not quite as much. When I was younger, some effort went into debunking this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywater We know a great deal about ice, because studying the phases is something you can do while drinking coffee :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice "Subjected to higher pressures and varying temperatures, ice can form in 16 separate known phases. With care, all these phases except ice X can be recovered at ambient pressure and low temperature in metastable form." That means you can throw an "unstable ice cube" in your drink. I wonder if the grocery store sells bags of those ? With a best before date. "Product may have settled... due to metastability" Paul |
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