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Micky March 19th 19 09:10 AM

Two connected devices
 
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e

Because I spent an hour trying to install bluetooth drivers yesterday
and almost finished, I keep thinking the second connection is bluetooth,
but for Bluetooth, there is no listed connection.

https://aruljohn.com/mac/A028EDAD4E4E shows the first 3 sections go with
vendor HMD Global Oy !

"This database was last updated on Tue, 19 March 2019"

For Lookup Vendor, it shows not found.

https://www.whatsmyip.org/mac-address-lookup/ shows the same thing.

Hmd Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made
up of the mobile phone business that Nokia had sold to Microsoft in
2014, then bought back in 2016. HMD Oy began marketing smartphones and
feature phones under the Nokia brand on 1 December 2016.

So is someone else's mobile phone using my mobile phone as a hotspot?
The apartment has no wifi, and I have two roommates, neither of whom are
here now, there is an apartment upstairs**, and there are some workmen
just outside today.

**I don't know the people upstairs but when I noticed this between 10
and 11AM, they were probably at work, not here.

I have more data than I can use each month, so is this a problem?

I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?

(Osakeyhtiö ("stock company"), often abbreviated to Oy, is the Finnish
name for a limited company (e.g., Ltd, LLC, Inc.). The Swedish name is
Aktiebolag often abbreviated to Ab. )

Carlos E.R.[_3_] March 19th 19 11:27 AM

Two connected devices
 
On 19/03/2019 10.10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e

Because I spent an hour trying to install bluetooth drivers yesterday
and almost finished, I keep thinking the second connection is bluetooth,
but for Bluetooth, there is no listed connection.

https://aruljohn.com/mac/A028EDAD4E4E shows the first 3 sections go with
vendor HMD Global Oy !

"This database was last updated on Tue, 19 March 2019"

For Lookup Vendor, it shows not found.

https://www.whatsmyip.org/mac-address-lookup/ shows the same thing.

Hmd Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made
up of the mobile phone business that Nokia had sold to Microsoft in
2014, then bought back in 2016. HMD Oy began marketing smartphones and
feature phones under the Nokia brand on 1 December 2016.

So is someone else's mobile phone using my mobile phone as a hotspot?
The apartment has no wifi, and I have two roommates, neither of whom are
here now, there is an apartment upstairs**, and there are some workmen
just outside today.

**I don't know the people upstairs but when I noticed this between 10
and 11AM, they were probably at work, not here.

I have more data than I can use each month, so is this a problem?

I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?


He would be getting data from you.

You should set the hotspot on the phone using a password and encryption,
most certainly. Always, unless you are alone on a mountaintop.


--
Cheers, Carlos.

Paul[_32_] March 19th 19 01:47 PM

Two connected devices
 
micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e

Because I spent an hour trying to install bluetooth drivers yesterday
and almost finished, I keep thinking the second connection is bluetooth,
but for Bluetooth, there is no listed connection.

https://aruljohn.com/mac/A028EDAD4E4E shows the first 3 sections go with
vendor HMD Global Oy !

"This database was last updated on Tue, 19 March 2019"

For Lookup Vendor, it shows not found.

https://www.whatsmyip.org/mac-address-lookup/ shows the same thing.

Hmd Global Oy, branded as HMD, is a Finnish mobile phone company, made
up of the mobile phone business that Nokia had sold to Microsoft in
2014, then bought back in 2016. HMD Oy began marketing smartphones and
feature phones under the Nokia brand on 1 December 2016.

So is someone else's mobile phone using my mobile phone as a hotspot?
The apartment has no wifi, and I have two roommates, neither of whom are
here now, there is an apartment upstairs**, and there are some workmen
just outside today.

**I don't know the people upstairs but when I noticed this between 10
and 11AM, they were probably at work, not here.

I have more data than I can use each month, so is this a problem?

I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?

(Osakeyhtiö ("stock company"), often abbreviated to Oy, is the Finnish
name for a limited company (e.g., Ltd, LLC, Inc.). The Swedish name is
Aktiebolag often abbreviated to Ab. )


It says you could use USB tethering here. I don't know if that
"stops" the Wifi part or not. The other part I don't know about
this, is how the OTG USB declares itself. Whether it uses a Class Code
for networking, or it's just a "serial port" running at a lower rate.

https://support.google.com/android/answer/9059108?hl=en

If you don't have one, you might need a cable like this to try.

https://www.amazon.ca/Micro-USB-OTG-.../dp/B00D8YZ2SA

Paul

nospam March 19th 19 01:59 PM

Two connected devices
 
In article , J. P. Gilliver (John)
wrote:


I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a


I'd be surprised if there isn't at least a setting to require a wifi
key, and to be able to change it.


there is.

password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?


Yes, them having access in that way would only give them an internet
connection on the face of it - though consider, see above, what they
might be using it for. However, once they are "into your 'phone" by
wifi, can they access e. g. its configuration settings, as a web page
for example?


no.

I don't know how 'phones-as-hotspots work: I know I can
change some settings in my home _router_ in such a way, but maybe
'phones don't give access to such settings other than to the person
actually holding them?


a router and a phone are very different devices.

nospam March 19th 19 01:59 PM

Two connected devices
 
In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:


You should set the hotspot on the phone using a password and encryption,
most certainly. Always,


yep

unless you are alone on a mountaintop.


in which case, there won't be a cellular signal, so it doesn't matter.

MikeS[_5_] March 19th 19 09:14 PM

Two connected devices
 
On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e


I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?


An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with
regard to security. The same for any other phone.

There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the
key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password
you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot.

croy[_2_] March 19th 19 09:31 PM

Two connected devices
 
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 09:59:55 -0400, nospam wrote:

In article , Carlos E.R.
wrote:
unless you are alone on a mountaintop.


in which case, there won't be a cellular signal, so it doesn't matter.


A friend of mine did the one-day sprint to the top of Mt. Whitney, the highest peak in
California, and when she reached the top, she called me on her cell phone. I was 150 miles
away, and got the call just fine.

--
croy

Micky March 20th 19 09:04 AM

Two connected devices
 
In comp.mobile.android, on Tue, 19 Mar 2019 21:14:16 +0000, MikeS
wrote:

On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected. One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e


I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?


An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with
regard to security. The same for any other phone.

There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the
key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password
you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot.


Thanks and thanks all. I finally fond iturprisignly under Set up "WiFi
hotspot. "

Carlos E.R.[_3_] March 20th 19 10:24 PM

Two connected devices
 
On 19/03/2019 22.14, MikeS wrote:
On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected.Â*Â* One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e


I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?


An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with
regard to security. The same for any other phone.


Well, it has fewer options. We can't configure the firewall, for instance.

There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the
key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password
you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot.


Right.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Micky March 21st 19 07:50 PM

Two connected devices
 
In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 20 Mar 2019 23:24:29 +0100, "Carlos
E.R." wrote:

On 19/03/2019 22.14, MikeS wrote:
On 19/03/2019 09:10, micky wrote:
I've been using this setup, of an Android phone as a hotspot, with a
laptop running win7, for about 5 months over the last 13 months, and it
works fine.

Today, under Portable Hotspot, it shows that I have two devices
connected.** One is my PC and the other is a0:28:ed:ad:4e:4e


I don't remember if there was a way to use encryption or require a
password, but wouldn't a second hotspot user just be getting data to and
from the cellular connection to the web, not from me?


An Android phone used as a hotspot is no different to a router with
regard to security. The same for any other phone.


Well, it has fewer options. We can't configure the firewall, for instance.

There are settings to select the type of security (encryption) and the
key/password. If you set it to no security or used an obvious password
you have only yourself to blame if somebody else is using your hotspot.


Right.


I want to be like Johnny Appleseed, sprinkling my data wherever I go.


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