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My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Hi there,
My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your
customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement motherboard is the same make andmodel or the same manufacturer’s replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer’s warranty. "KDagnell" wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
KDagnell wrote:
Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive. If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first installed to. My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it "windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
KDagnell wrote:
Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding hardware which includes every piece including the CPU. Good Luck. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! CRaven Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist "Beck" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive. If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first installed to. My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it "windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! CRaven Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist "Johnathan" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding hardware which includes every piece including the CPU. Good Luck. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. False. I just upgraded mine (OEM generic) and it activated online no problem, passed WGA no problem. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer. False. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. False. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement motherboard is the same make andmodel or the same manufacturer’s replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer’s warranty. False. That said if the OP's OEM is a branded OEM, you can't upgrade the motherboard, only replace it with an identical motherboard. If it's a generic OEM, you can upgrade any hardware you like. My EULA says *nothing* about a motherboard. Alias "KDagnell" wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for technical reasons, not EULA reasons. Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! CRaven Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying??? Alias "Beck" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive. If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first installed to. My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it "windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! That's not what my three EULAs say. Why do you lie? Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! Um, the OP is not a systems builder. The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! False. I just upgraded one of my computers to a new motherboard, video card, NIC and audio card. After clean installing XP HOme, it activated online and passed all the WGAs. Oops. The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! CRaven False. A branded OEM is tied to the motherboard technically, not license-wise. Generic OEMs are NOT. All you do is spew FUD. Alias Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist "Johnathan" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding hardware which includes every piece including the CPU. Good Luck. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! The upgrade of the motherboard is only a hardware upgrade and is not a new pc. It would just require reactivation of the XP. As long as its not on two pcs at the same time, the user can upgrade as many times as they like if it is a standard OEM and not one which is tied to the PC. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! CRaven Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist Maybe this should be relayed to MS phone support. In the process of reactivation I was told there would not be a problem and she reactivated that moment. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! The OEMs you are talking about are the ones preinstalled with the machine. Yes they are tied to the machine. This is why I made the distinction in my other post. Two types of OEM - branded OEM which come preinstalled with systems, and generic OEM which can be purchased seperately. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User "KDagnell" wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Branded or generic - Makes no difference - The same 2 license agreements
apply - systems builder + eula: OEM software purchased from a 'computer store' and installed onto a machine CANNOT then be transfered, Refer to OEM System builder agreement and EULA. Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be activated does not make it legal! "Beck" wrote: CRaven wrote: Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! The OEMs you are talking about are the ones preinstalled with the machine. Yes they are tied to the machine. This is why I made the distinction in my other post. Two types of OEM - branded OEM which come preinstalled with systems, and generic OEM which can be purchased seperately. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Hi Johnathon;
Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be activated does not make it legal. Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have said. Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard; He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC; BillySprat informs Microsoft piracy that you have illegal software on your PC; Jo has a receipt for original software, a hologram CD, manual and COA but when it comes to court - he is asked to provide reciept for motherboard and the judge checks it against the first activation date .. blah blah blah "Johnathan" wrote: CRaven wrote: Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! CRaven Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist Maybe this should be relayed to MS phone support. In the process of reactivation I was told there would not be a problem and she reactivated that moment. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Branded or generic - Makes no difference - The same 2 license agreements apply - systems builder + eula: OEM software purchased from a 'computer store' and installed onto a machine CANNOT then be transfered, Refer to OEM System builder agreement and EULA. Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be activated does not make it legal! Here is your system builder license. http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/P...SB_License.pdf Please show which section it says you cannot upgrade the motherboard. The only thing it says about new hardware is the following under clause 14: Activation... Product activation procedures and Microsofts privacy policy will be detailed during initial launch of the product, or upon certain reinstallations of the software product(s) or *reconfigurations* of this computer, and may be completed by internet or telephone (toll charges may apply. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal! By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible for providing your own support! Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license evaders about already. CRaven Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist "Alias" wrote: CRaven wrote: Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for technical reasons, not EULA reasons. Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying??? Alias "Beck" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive. If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first installed to. My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it "windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming
an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is permitted etc! Congratulations on your award "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User "KDagnell" wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. It does not state that in the EULA. Here is mine directly from my PC. http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user requiring a new license. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven became hysterical and wrote:
Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it is legal! It is, at least according the the EULA I agreed to. By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder license wether you like it or not; Not true. I am bound by what I agree to, not what's in your imagination. you are also resposible for providing your own support! Big deal. Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license evaders about already. CRaven I bought my generic OEMs at an authorized dealer. In Spain, nobody sells retail XPs. NOBODY! One store does sell retail upgrade versions at 3.5 times the price of OEM. Needless to say, they don't sell very many except to fools like you who believe the FUD posted on this and other newsgroups. So, hot shot, you were saying? Alias Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist "Alias" wrote: CRaven wrote: Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for technical reasons, not EULA reasons. Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying??? Alias "Beck" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive. If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first installed to. My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it "windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Hi Johnathon; Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be activated does not make it legal. Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have said. Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard; He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC; False. A motherboard without a power supply is what? Nothing. A motherboard does not a computer make. The EULA for a generic OEM does not mention the word "motherboard" once. Do you want me to post the EULA for you? Snip BS big time Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you know it, Carey. Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is permitted etc! Try reading the EULA before you put your foot in your mouth. Congratulations on your award All Carey's award did is denigrate the MVP system. Alias "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote: When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows XP - Shell/User "KDagnell" wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Beck wrote:
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. It does not state that in the EULA. Here is mine directly from my PC. http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user requiring a new license. Makes you think they can't read. Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an
organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee) Good Luck, Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law. "Alias" wrote: Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you know it, Carey. Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
SteveL wrote:
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee) Good Luck, Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law. Just curious, what are you talking about? I have no illegal software on any of my computers. I own my own business and my attorney buys his software from the same place I do. Also, just curious, to which law in Spain are you referring? Alias "Alias" wrote: Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM Windows XP license, unless you replace the motherboard with an exact duplicate. Therefore, the installation of a different model motherboard will require the purchase of a new Windows XP license. Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you know it, Carey. Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard. Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No End User ever agree to that BS. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
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kurttrail wrote:
CRaven wrote: Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard. Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No End User ever agree to that BS. I was wondering when you would wake up ;-) Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it is legal! Quote the License, you told the OP to read, where it mentions that the motherboard cannot be replaced. You cannot because it is not in ANY license. By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible for providing your own support! Actually that is a recent change, which the OP may not have agreed to, but then the SBL says nothing about the motherboard cannot be changed either. Quote it if you can. Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license evaders about already. And more than enough idiots making licensing claims they cannot back up. CRaven Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist LOL! Are you self-anointed too! -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! QUOTE THE LICENSING AGREEMENT! Neither the EULA or the SBL say anything about that the motherboard cannot be changed, and to continue to claim it does is an outright LIE! Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first reply to this post! That is not part of ANY license that was agreed to. And give the link so everybody can see that it is a password protected site. The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product! LOL! Now you are including the processor too! The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license! Says you. And we all now know that you are full of sh*t. CRaven Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist LOL! You can't even spell Microsoft right, and you want people to believe you are some licensing special olympian? "Johnathan" wrote: KDagnell wrote: Hi there, My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new version! Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this? There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding hardware which includes every piece including the CPU. Good Luck. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Alias wrote:
CRaven wrote: Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is permitted etc! Try reading the EULA before you put your foot in your mouth. Congratulations on your award All Carey's award did is denigrate the MVP system. I agree with this poast! -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is permitted etc! Congratulations on your award He is probably the ONLY MVP you'll find to agree with you. And he is the least respect MVP. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
SteveL wrote:
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee) LOL! It's the BSA. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
CRaven wrote:
Hi Johnathon; Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be activated does not make it legal. Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have said. Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard; He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC; BillySprat informs Microsoft piracy that you have illegal software on your PC; ROFL! Please go call MS and tell them I have "illegal software" on my PC, and see what doesn't happen. Jo has a receipt for original software, a hologram CD, manual and COA but when it comes to court - he is asked to provide reciept for motherboard and the judge checks it against the first activation date .. blah blah blah LOL! What if there is no receipt? One cannot produce what one does not have. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Alias wrote:
kurttrail wrote: CRaven wrote: Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license! Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard. Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first reply to this post! Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No End User ever agree to that BS. I was wondering when you would wake up ;-) Alias http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=craven I'd say the definition really fits. -- Peace! Kurt Kirsch Self-anointed Moderator http://microscum.com "It'll soon shake your Windows And rattle your walls For the times they are a-changin'." |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
"Another common misconception is that you can transfer
a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines." Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer. If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard, then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows XP license is required since the old OEM license is no longer valid with a new model motherboard. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Microsoft Community Newsgroups news://msnews.microsoft.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------- "Beck" wrote: | Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: | When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM | Windows XP license, unless you replace the | motherboard with an exact duplicate. | Therefore, the installation of a different | model motherboard will require the purchase | of a new Windows XP license. | | It does not state that in the EULA. | Here is mine directly from my PC. | http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt | | Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user | requiring a new license. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
"Another common misconception is that you can transfer a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines." Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer. If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard, then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows XP license is required since the old OEM license is no longer valid with a new model motherboard. That does not say that changing the motherboard results in an entirely new pc. It only states you cannot transfer it to a new PC. |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
"Another common misconception is that you can transfer a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines." Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer. Um, computers don't have hearts or souls, Carey. What have you been smoking? Without a power supply, the motherboard would not function, heartless as that might seem. Like a body, you need more than a motherboard to make a computer. If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard, then a "new computer" has been created No, an updated computer has been created. and a new Windows XP license is required since the old OEM license is no longer valid with a new model motherboard. This is true with branded OEMs but not with generic OEMs. You also don't get all the groovy things that branded OEMs bundle into their restore disk or partition. 90 days free subscription to Norton. How nice. Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Beck wrote:
Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: "Another common misconception is that you can transfer a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines." Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer. If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard, then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows XP license is required since the old OEM license is no longer valid with a new model motherboard. That does not say that changing the motherboard results in an entirely new pc. It only states you cannot transfer it to a new PC. Carey believes it does, "heart and soul". Alias |
My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem
Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:
Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired? When would the PC be considered to be "new"? A. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user customer may maintain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC. -- Carey Frisch Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User Microsoft Community Newsgroups news://msnews.microsoft.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---------------- "Beck" wrote: | Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote: | "Another common misconception is that you can transfer | a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine | to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred | from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no | longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it | was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines." | | Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx | | The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer. | If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard, | then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows | XP license is required since the old OEM license is no | longer valid with a new model motherboard. | | That does not say that changing the motherboard results in an entirely new | pc. It only states you cannot transfer it to a new PC. |
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