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KenK February 9th 18 05:00 PM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.

TIA


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[email protected] February 9th 18 09:36 PM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
On 9 Feb 2018 17:00:24 GMT, KenK wrote:

I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.

TIA


Use "Save As" and save it to your computer.....
OR
Take a graphic editor and screen capture the whole page. Save it as a
..JPG image.


VanguardLH[_2_] February 9th 18 09:46 PM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
KenK wrote:

I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.


Many sites don't want to make it easy to steal their content. Many web
sites now use dynamic documents (web pages) so what they show depends on
how you got there, what you did, if you're logged in, etc hence the much
heavier use of Javascript within the document along with more server-
side scripting working in tandem to control what content gets delivered
to the client. Often the content is images (even if it looks like text)
or dynamic content that doesn't migrate well to static medium, like a
hardcopy via Print. Printing requires re-retrieving the content to
repaint the page to send a copy to the printer of what the site wants to
currently deliver. That adds more bandwidth on their end which could
amount to wasting their resources to resend the same content.

If Print within the client doesn't work, see if printing to PDF works.
There are lots of PDF "printers": the print job gets sent to an emulated
printer that generates a .pdf (or an image file) instead of to printer
hardware. I currently use Bullzip PDF Printer but have used PDFCreator.
There are many others, like CutePDF, Foxit PDF, SumatraPDF, doPDF, etc.
Most rely on Ghostscript to interpret the printer language sent by a
Print function to convert to PDF language. It could be an included
install bundled in the installer or you are required to separately
download and install Ghostscript. Some use their own proprietary PDF
converter so they don't rely on Ghostscript. The effect is the same:
use the Print function in a program to send a printer stream to an
emulated printer that converts to PDF and saves in a file. Converting
(printing) to a PDF printer doesn't always give reasonable results.
Again, web pages are often dynamic documents that don't lend themselves
to static representation.

Some other choices is to use extensions that capture what is currently
rendering within the client. It doesn't re-retrieve the content from
the server (which could deliver changed content). It uses the document
already rendered by the web browser. Some extensions let you select a
portion of the web page to capture (so you don't waste file space or
paper on content you don't want, like ads or other articles other than
the one you want to capture), all of the web page, or other selections.
Some extensions even let you decide what elements of a document to keep
or delete and then save/print what remains. They modify the document to
your taste and then save that version of the document. The following
are the extensions that I use (which are WebExtensions so I can keep
extensions in sync between Firefox [Quantum] and Google Chrome):

For capture and save:
Nimbus Screenshot & Screen Video Recorder
Firefox: https://tinyurl.com/yba5mcwr
Google Chrome: https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6uwsl9p

For editing and save:
Print Edit WE
Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/fir...print-edit-we/
Google Chrome: http://tinyurl.com/y6ws6t2g

Most times I just capture some or all of a web page using Nimbus (if
printing to a PDF printer doesn't work). Only a few times have I used
Print Edit WE but it was handy to let me select the *elements* within a
document to save rather than capturing a region of the page which could
still include elements that I didn't want in the output.

JJ[_11_] February 9th 18 09:58 PM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
On 9 Feb 2018 17:00:24 GMT, KenK wrote:

I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.

TIA


Easy way...

Before printing, disable JavaScript (don't reload the page).
After printing, turn it back on.

Depending on the web browser, the changes of JavaScript setting may not be
in effect unless the web page is reloaded. In this case, do not use that web
browser. Use other browser. e.g. Firefox

Difficult way...

Use a GreaseMonkey script via GreaseMonkey web browser addon to disable the
website's anti-print, anti-clipboard, anti-right-click, etc. Note: need
programming knowledge.

JJ[_11_] February 9th 18 10:01 PM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:58:16 +0700, JJ wrote:

On 9 Feb 2018 17:00:24 GMT, KenK wrote:

I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.

TIA


Easy way...

Before printing, disable JavaScript (don't reload the page).
After printing, turn it back on.

Depending on the web browser, the changes of JavaScript setting may not be
in effect unless the web page is reloaded. In this case, do not use that web
browser. Use other browser. e.g. Firefox

Difficult way...

Use a GreaseMonkey script via GreaseMonkey web browser addon to disable the
website's anti-print, anti-clipboard, anti-right-click, etc. Note: need
programming knowledge.


On second thought...
Post the URL of the problematic site.
I'll make a solution for you.

Paul[_32_] February 10th 18 01:01 AM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
KenK wrote:
I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.

TIA


http://www.web2pdfconvert.com/

No guarantees the output is complete though.

Web content can be custom-delivered for the UserAgent,
and also custom-designed to foul up conversion attempts.

I tested it on a Yahoo page and the output was only
two pages long, when in fact it was likely longer than that.
If a web page is sufficiently booby-trapped, you're not
going to copy it.

Paul

B00ze February 10th 18 07:28 AM

Printing web site that won't allow it
 
On 2018-02-09 12:00, KenK wrote:

I may have asked this before but don't recall the response and if so didn't
retain the response.

Anyway, what about those annoying web sites that don't show their content
when I use Firefox "Print Preview" and won't let me select and copy content
to move it to a word precessor to print there?

Anything I can otherwise try?

Web sites seem to be making it harder and harder to print their contents
for reference.

TIA


I don't think websites are actively preventing you from printing them
(unlike blocking copy/paste which they DO actively block). I've got 2
bugs opened for websites that won't print in Firefox, and I could open
many more - more and more websites use whatever is making Firefox crash
on printing (the latest for me is GHacks Tech News, I could print it 2
months ago, but no longer). I just open the page in Google Chrome; it's
very solid when it comes to printing.

Best Regards,

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