Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
I have an old Lenovo t-43 laptop running XP. It has a 40gb hard drive,
which is too small for my needs. With the OS, and the programs I use, plus some videos and music for when I am on the road, I end up with 28gb filled, and 12gb available. It's not uncommon for me to go to a WIFI and download 10gb of programs. videos and so on. Then I get a "drive full" message, which means it's not entirely full, but very close. For awhile I was carrying around a 64gb flash drive, but that thing is always getting misplaced in the car. I decided to go to ebay and find an 80gb hard drive. I found a 160gb drive for $3 more than an 89gb, so I bought the 160gb. I dont have the drive yet, but when I get it, I want to clone the current drive to the new one, so I dont have to reinstall everything. But how do I do this? Laptops dont have space for a second HDD. (at least mine dont). I have one of those cable kits that is for hooking any 3.5" IDE or SATA drive to a USB port. It dont have the plug for these 2.5" drives, so I assume I will have to buy one made for these 2.5" laptop drives. (Do they sell adaptor kits for these laptop drives?) (Are they labeled for these kind of drives)? Once I buy the adaptor, I think all I have to do is run Partition Magic 8, (which I have) to clone the drive. But once it's cloned, will it boot, or do I need to do something to make it bootable? But then I was wondering if it's possible to clone the drive to a 64gb flash drive, then clone it from the flash drive to the new HDD? The only problem there, is that this computer can not be booted from a USB drive, so I will probably have to borrow a newer laptop to clone from the USB to the new HDD. Will that even work? |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
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I have an old Lenovo t-43 laptop running XP. It has a 40gb hard drive, which is too small for my needs. With the OS, and the programs I use, plus some videos and music for when I am on the road, I end up with 28gb filled, and 12gb available. It's not uncommon for me to go to a WIFI and download 10gb of programs. videos and so on. Then I get a "drive full" message, which means it's not entirely full, but very close. For awhile I was carrying around a 64gb flash drive, but that thing is always getting misplaced in the car. I decided to go to ebay and find an 80gb hard drive. I found a 160gb drive for $3 more than an 89gb, so I bought the 160gb. I dont have the drive yet, but when I get it, I want to clone the current drive to the new one, so I dont have to reinstall everything. But how do I do this? Laptops dont have space for a second HDD. (at least mine dont). I have one of those cable kits that is for hooking any 3.5" IDE or SATA drive to a USB port. It dont have the plug for these 2.5" drives, so I assume I will have to buy one made for these 2.5" laptop drives. (Do they sell adaptor kits for these laptop drives?) (Are they labeled for these kind of drives)? Once I buy the adaptor, I think all I have to do is run Partition Magic 8, (which I have) to clone the drive. But once it's cloned, will it boot, or do I need to do something to make it bootable? But then I was wondering if it's possible to clone the drive to a 64gb flash drive, then clone it from the flash drive to the new HDD? The only problem there, is that this computer can not be booted from a USB drive, so I will probably have to borrow a newer laptop to clone from the USB to the new HDD. Will that even work? The combo USB2 adapters usually have 3 connectors. 7 pin SATA data (for 2.5" or 3.5" SATA drives) 40 pin IDE (for 3.5" IDE drives) 44 pin IDE (for 2.5" IDE drives) https://sgcdn.startech.com/005329/me...TAIDE.Main.jpg ******* You can also get adapters, to convert between 44 pin and 40 pin. https://www.startech.com/Cables/Driv...dapter~IDE4044 The 44 pin connector has 2mm spacing between pins. The 40 pin connector has 0.1" spacing between pins. The connectors are actually using the same protocol, which is why a passive adapter can convert from one to the other. Some of the passive adapters, are meant for motherboard mounting, others are meant for usage with the cable. That's in case you cannot figure out why the gender on the connector "isn't right". They're for different applications. You have to think carefully about what the gender says about the connector, and whether it fits into your plan. ******* Some laptops take a hard drive adapter that fits in the optical drive bay. You could use Macrium to clone disk-to-disk if going that route. If you own a USB stick, you can use Macrium emergency boot CD, to boot the laptop, and backup C: to the USB stick. Then, shut down, and install the new hard drive. Boot the Macrium emergency boot CD a second time, do a restore from the USB stick, to the new hard drive. The size of the MRIMG file in that case, is only big enough to hold the files. If you have 20GB of files on a 100GB disk, the MRIMG file is 20GB in size, not 100GB in size. With compression enabled, it can actually be a bit less than 20GB. Macrium supports resize-on-restore, so a smaller C: partition can be used to "fill" a larger drive. That saves a step later with a Partition Manager. Obviously, a partition manager has lots of options like this covered, and I've certainly done clones that way in the past. It all depends on whether you need to use the "backup/restore method", to get around a lack of drive bays or not. You can use the USB to SATA/IDE adapter, instead of the optical drive bay method. And clone over that way. Then, it would depend on whether your software "respects" the USB adapter. I've had problems before, where the USB adapter doesn't show up in a tool, so I'm robbed of the convenience of doing it that way. Perhaps it was my older copy of Partition Magic which had an issue. Just because you've got that adapter, doesn't always means everything you do is a "slam-dunk". Just so you're warned in advance. The backup/restore method might work. The emergency boot CD should be made on the machine which will be the target, so that the boot-CD-making-software can load the correct drivers for the platform. For example, if you had USB3 ports, you'd endeavor to make sure that USB3 drivers were included on the emergency CD. Another example, is network drivers. File sharing won't work, unless the emergency CD has a network driver. There's usually a dialog which notes which drivers are going onto the CD. And you review those, before wasting a CD. I use CDRW or DVDRW materials, so if I screw up, I just burn a second time. Modern (non-Memorex) re-writeable media is pretty good now, so I hardly have trouble any more with media. In fact, at the moment, I'm sporting some CMC media (which would normally not be my first choice), and it actually works. My computer store didn't have any Ritek in the aisle any more. I had to take a chance on some crap instead. With the experience level you have under your belt, this is "just work to do". There's probably more than one way to attempt to do it. If first you don't succeed, then Plan B or Plan C and so on. You know the drill by now. ******* Since your WinXP is patched up to SP3, there won't be any worries about 48 bit LBA support. That should just work too. Since you're doing a clone, there's no way to lose the data in any case. Your original drive is your backup copy. A nice safe set of operating conditions. ******* You could also do some of your prep work on your desktop. But only if you have one of those 40 to 44 pin passive adapters. When I receive a new drive, I like to pop it into HDTune, and do a read benchmark. Just to make sure it has a nice smooth curve, with no "flat spots". The presence of a swath of abnormally slow read transfer rate, would indicate some spared-out sectors are present. http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe The area around 72% in this HDTune example, looks like a bad area. The whole disk doesn't look all that healthy - I just wanted to show a "wide" area which was bad. And the 72% area just barely meets that criterion. http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...d= 1305052454 This one looks pretty good. Only a couple of the yellow seek dots are outliers, and not enough to worry about. The stair-step appearance of the blue transfer curve, is zoned recording on the platter (that's a format they use). The "noise level" on the blue part, cannot get much lower, because of the timing routines used to measure transfer rate. OS activity can interfere with the test... An OS like Windows 10, would be the worst for that (interfering with your benchmarking work). I've had some new disk drives, that didn't look quite this good. This drive is a keeper. http://www.buildegg.com/bewp/wp-cont...LS-00L3B_A.png Paul |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
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Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Cloning _from within the OS you're running_ is IMO flaky to do, though some utilities (certainly Macrium, I don't know about PM) claim to be able to. I'd say at least 20-30 programs know how to do that. VSS is part of the solution. The first article implies it works only for NTFS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy Yet, the evidence is, it works for FAT32 too. It's just hard finding documentation to that effect. All we have to go on, is observations from users, like this one. https://serverfault.com/questions/87...r-fat32-volume HTH, Paul |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:46:04 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: In message , writes: I have an old Lenovo t-43 laptop running XP. It has a 40gb hard drive, which is too small for my needs. With the OS, and the programs I use, [] 80gb hard drive. I found a 160gb drive for $3 more than an 89gb, so I bought the 160gb. I dont have the drive yet, but when I get it, I want to clone the current drive to the new one, so I dont have to reinstall everything. But how do I do this? Laptops dont have space for a second HDD. (at least mine dont). Does it have an optical drive? I have one of those cable kits that is for hooking any 3.5" IDE or SATA drive to a USB port. It dont have the plug for these 2.5" drives, so I assume I will have to buy one made for these 2.5" laptop drives. All the ones I've seen have a plug with two sides to it: one for the 3.5" drives, and one for the 2.5" drives. (With the ones that do SATA as well having the SATA connector in the middle of that plug.) I'd be surprised if, if it does SATA, it doesn't also do 2.5". (Do they sell adaptor kits for these laptop drives?) (Are they labeled for these kind of drives)? Once I buy the adaptor, I think all I have to do is run Partition Magic 8, (which I have) to clone the drive. Cloning _from within the OS you're running_ is IMO flaky to do, though some utilities (certainly Macrium, I don't know about PM) claim to be able to. If you'll be running it on another computer, i. e. just using the drive passively, that should be fine. Make sure you clone C: and any unlettered ("hidden") partitions. (For a 40G drive, just cloning the whole drive is probably easiest.) But once it's cloned, will it boot, or do I need to do something to make it bootable? When I did it - though I imaged C: and the hidden to an image on an external drive, then restored from that image to the new (bigger) drive, rather than cloning - it booted, though the first time some Samsung recovery software cut in and offered to run (it's a Samsung netbook), so I let it, and after a few minutes my old desktop appeared as before. (I then used a partition manager to enlarge C: and recreate D:. It is possible I might have been able to do that at the restoring-image stage: I just wanted to do one thing at a time.) But then I was wondering if it's possible to clone the drive to a 64gb flash drive, then clone it from the flash drive to the new HDD? The only problem there, is that this computer can not be booted from a USB drive, so I will probably have to borrow a newer laptop to clone from the USB to the new HDD. Sounds like you only have the one PC, so you would ... Will that even work? But, especially given that you have that cable set, I'd get another drive - whatever's cheapest, probably a 3.5" SATA one; that way you can image the present drive to the external drive, IMO using a boot CD made using Macrium or Acronis so you don't have to do it from inside XP, then (again using the boot CD) restore from the image to the new drive: that way, you'll still have the external drive to make backup images on in future. Always good to make backups! (As I know to my cost! my HD just stopped spinning one day; the heads (or probably only one) had stuck to the platter, probably due to overheating. Fortunately, when I gave up all else and actually opened the drive in a clean cabinet, I was able to free them/it, and the drive then worked well enough to extract the image.) Thanks for all the replies. I bought on ebay, two 40 pin (3.5" drive) to 44pin (2.5" laptop drive) connectors. Here is the plan, I hope it will work. I have a desktop puter with XP booting from a SATA drive. There is a IDE connector on the motherboard. The plan is to connect both the old 40gb drive and the new 160gb drive to that IDE connector, using those adaptors. I hope it boots from the SATA drive, not the OS on that 40gb drive. (I dont know if there is a way to control that). If it works to that point, I will simply run Partition Magic from the boot drive, and clone that 40gb to the 160gb drive. Ques: If I clone that whole 40gb drive, will I get a 40gb partition on the new drive? Actually, that would be fine. I will keep the 40gb partition as the boot one, and the remaining 120gb will be for downloading and storing videos and music. Before cloning, I may dump my current music and videos to a flash drive, so there is less to clone. THe main thing that needs to be cloned is the OS and the programs. I can move that file storage back from the flash drive later. One other thing, will XP need to be re verified with MS due to the new hard drive? |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
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Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
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Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
In message , Some Guy writes:
, while using improper usenet message composition style by unnecessarily full-quoting an entire thread, wrote: I have a desktop computer Good. Go get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost 2003. There should be a floppy image of it floating around the internet somewhere. Burn the image to a floppy. (maybe burn isin't the right term, but you get the idea). ("Write" will do.) Or get a copy of Macrium or Acronis, and make the boot CD from that. Or, maybe, the Partition Magic you already have might be sufficient, if it does cloning/imaging, which you've implied it will. Set your motherboard to boot from floppy. Put the floppy in the drive. Or CD as appropriate. (If you're going to try with PM, running from the machine's existing XP HD, you'll need to make sure it boots from that, not the IDE discs you're proposing to connect. I'm not sure how to do that, or even if you can, though I'd hope you can. If you can, I imagine it'll be a BIOS setting.) If you have a ps/2 mouse, plug it into the motherboard. If you don't, then that might be a problem. If your motherboard has IDE ports (which you say it does) then it should have ps/2 mouse port. I _think_ Macrium and Acronis will work with a USB mouse (Macrium certainly works with my trackpad). Next, unplug all existing drives in the system from the motherboard. You don't want them connected to the motherboard during cloning. Good advice, though if you're going to use the PM you've already got, you probably can't do that. Now, you have the drive you want to clone (a 40 gb ide) and the drive you want as the destination of the clone (160 gb). Connect both of those drives to the motherboard. Doesn't matter how or to which IDE port. Same would apply if booting from the Macrium or Acronis CD. Next, boot the system from the floppy. Or CD. Ghost will start. Ask you a few questions - say no to forensic identification. Choose copy - disk to disk Choose the source drive. It will be the 40 gb drive. Choose the destination drive. It will be the 160 gb drive. Macrium or Acronis will be similar. It will show you the layout of the destination drive - the volume sizes will be increased because the destination drive is larger. Tell it to start the copy. Yes, you know that everything on the destination drive will be wiped out. Copy will happen at anywhere from 800 mb/sec to maybe double that, depending on how new / fast the motherboard is. When it's done, close Ghost and turn off the computer, disconnect your drives, install the 160 gb drive in the laptop and see if it boots. Ghost normally duplicates most aspects of the source drive, like volume serial number (VSN). XP will do a check of hardware at boot and you will lose a vote for having a different drive-size but will not lose the VSN vote. There'a a program called xpinfo.exe that will tell you Any idea where to get that? how many votes your system currently has. You need 5 for XP to remain validated. You get 3 just from the MAC address, 1 for amount of ram, 1 for video card, 2 or 3 for the hard drive (size, VSN, maybe something else). If you go below 5 votes, XP will force you to reconnect with the Micro$haft mothership and re-validate your XP installation. Don't the votes regenerate after a period (120 days or some such), to allow people to upgrade/repair their PC? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "We're plumbing shallows we didn't know existed here" - Jeremy Paxman (as quizmaster of "University Challenge"), 1998 (when losing team suddenly put on a spurt by showing knowledge of things like the Eurovision Song Contest ...) |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Go get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost 2003. Or get a copy of Macrium or Acronis, If the computer has a working floppy drive, and you can manage to create a working copy of Ghost on it, then there is nothing easier than booting a system from floppy vs messing around with CD drives and bios settings, as well as trying to figure out how to connect 3 IDE devices (2 drives and 1 CD drive) and getting everything to work. And in my experience, the other CD-based programs can frequently not generate a bootable clone. I've cloned over 100 drives from a handful of different XP-SP2 and SP3 master drives using Ghost. If you want to use a CD-based drive copy program, get your hands on a copy of Hiren's BootCD and putz around with the various software on it. Potential problems with going the Ghost route is getting a working combination of floppy drive and floppy disk. Over time both seem to go bad, bad sectors, alignment problems, dust, etc. Copy will happen at anywhere from 800 mb/sec to maybe double that, depending on how new / fast the motherboard is. Correction - 800 mb/minute. Two IDE drives on a Pentium-4 PC. When cloning sata-to-sata on a Core2 motherboard I can typically get 3500 mb/minute. There'a a program called xpinfo.exe that will tell you Any idea where to get that? I just checked he http://www.licenturion.com/xp/xpinfo-exe.zip This "licenturion" looks familiar to me. By the way, this is where you can get Ghost 2003: http://www.dslreports.com/r0/downloa...HOST_BOOTx.zip Don't the votes regenerate after a period (120 days or some such), to allow people to upgrade/repair their PC? Yes, a system that hasn't tried to re-validate itself in the past 120 days should be in the clear to do it again, but I think the risk is too high if you can avoid it. The risk that your product key has, for what-ever reason, been added to Micro$haft's black-list of keys. |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
In message , Some Guy writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: Go get yourself a copy of Norton Ghost 2003. Or get a copy of Macrium or Acronis, If the computer has a working floppy drive, and you can manage to create a working copy of Ghost on it, then there is nothing easier than booting a system from floppy vs messing around with CD drives and bios settings, as well as trying to figure out how to connect 3 IDE devices (2 drives and 1 CD drive) and getting everything to work. On the whole, you are probably right. Though there may still be some "messing around with BIOS settings" required if it isn't set to boot from floppy first. And in my experience, the other CD-based programs can frequently not generate a bootable clone. I've cloned over 100 drives from a handful of different XP-SP2 and SP3 master drives using Ghost. They work more often than not though. Just out of curiosity, why have you cloned so many from "a handful"? If you want to use a CD-based drive copy program, get your hands on a copy of Hiren's BootCD and putz around with the various software on it. Is that going to be either easier or better than Macrium or Acronis? (Or does Hiren include one or both of those?) Potential problems with going the Ghost route is getting a working combination of floppy drive and floppy disk. Over time both seem to go bad, bad sectors, alignment problems, dust, etc. CDs can deteriorate too, although - especially if not written at maximum speed - less so than floppies. Copy will happen at anywhere from 800 mb/sec to maybe double that, depending on how new / fast the motherboard is. Correction - 800 mb/minute. Two IDE drives on a Pentium-4 PC. When cloning sata-to-sata on a Core2 motherboard I can typically get 3500 mb/minute. There'a a program called xpinfo.exe that will tell you Any idea where to get that? I just checked he http://www.licenturion.com/xp/xpinfo-exe.zip Thanks for that. Incidentally, xpinfo doesn't work with OEM (or VLK). [] By the way, this is where you can get Ghost 2003: http://www.dslreports.com/r0/downloa...a3653cce1c3f14 7b3d4/GHOST_BOOTx.zip Thanks for that too. I've downloaded both. Don't the votes regenerate after a period (120 days or some such), to allow people to upgrade/repair their PC? Yes, a system that hasn't tried to re-validate itself in the past 120 days should be in the clear to do it again, but I think the risk is too high if you can avoid it. The risk that your product key has, for what-ever reason, been added to Micro$haft's black-list of keys. Does XPinfo (on machines where it works!) cover this, or only compare the system to how it was at (last) activation? (Or original activation?) -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf To keep leaf vegetables clean and crisp, cook lightly, then plunge into iced water (the vegetables, that is). - manual for a Russell Hobbs electric steamer |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Just out of curiosity, why have you cloned so many from "a handful"? We made several hundred windows-based systems with custom hardware during the 2000's and early 2010's. These were "turn-key" and had Windoze pre-installed on them. About half were win-98, the latter half being XP. The CD's were bought in packs of 5 (System Builder) and were included when these systems were shipped, but I found it easier to just keep a master drive updated periodically with patches, customized settings and accessory software and just clone the drive vs trying to replicate that with each system build. I know there was a sysprep tool that was supposed to accomplish that, but we wanted these systems to just boot right up the first time the customer used it, no entering in the license key and going out to validate itself. Sometimes (quite often actually) these systems did not end up being connected to the internet anyways. The hardware in these systems were updated a few times over this time-frame, so many of them shared exactly the same hardware configuration (motherboard, cpu, ram, cd drive, hard drive, video, etc). So cloning the hard drive was an easy decision. I kept a notebook of all the XP keys that went out for these systems, knowing practically all of them would never actually be used (ie - seen by a Micro$haft activation server). From time to time when I needed to build an XP system for personal or in-house use, I'd just reach into that list and use one of those keys. The system-builder keys are great because they are not tied to any specific hardware or system make / model like OEM keys are. Is that going to be either easier or better than Macrium or Acronis? (Or does Hiren include one or both of those?) Hiren's BootCD is at version 15.3 (or maybe higher?). Previous versions have included Macrium Reflect 4.2.3775 and Acronis True Image 8.1.945 (or higher). I don't know if the current / latest version still includes Macrium or Acronis. Sometimes commercial stuff gets removed from Hiren's so different versions will contain a different mix of software. You probably need to get older (maybe more desirable) versions of Hiren's from mirror sites or torrent. Yes, a system that hasn't tried to re-validate itself in the past 120 days should be in the clear to do it again, but I think the risk is too high if you can avoid it. The risk that your product key has, for what-ever reason, been added to Micro$haft's black-list of keys. Does XPinfo (on machines where it works!) cover this, or only compare the system to how it was at (last) activation? (Or original activation?) I think I knew that XPinfo didn't work with VLK, but I thought it did work with OEM licenses. I can tell you it works with system builder and retail licenses, and *I think* MSDN / Technet subscriptions too. XPinfo will tell you the current state of which components are the same now vs when XP was last validated (which is usually, but not necessarily when XP was originally installed). |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
In message , Some Guy writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: Just out of curiosity, why have you cloned so many from "a handful"? We made several hundred windows-based systems with custom hardware [] Thanks, interesting. [] Is that going to be either easier or better than Macrium or Acronis? (Or does Hiren include one or both of those?) Hiren's BootCD is at version 15.3 (or maybe higher?). Previous versions have included Macrium Reflect 4.2.3775 and Acronis True Image 8.1.945 (or higher). I don't know if the current / latest version still includes Macrium or Acronis. Sometimes commercial stuff gets removed from Hiren's so different versions will contain a different mix of software. You probably need to get older (maybe more desirable) versions of Hiren's from mirror sites or torrent. If you want to play; if you just want Macrium or Acronis, of course, you can get them from source. (I like my Macrium, as it fits on a mini-CD; I like mini-CDs, as they're easier to keep with - in this case - my backup drive, than a full-size CD would be, and less likely to get broken.) Yes, a system that hasn't tried to re-validate itself in the past 120 days should be in the clear to do it again, but I think the risk is too high if you can avoid it. The risk that your product key has, for what-ever reason, been added to Micro$haft's black-list of keys. Does XPinfo (on machines where it works!) cover this, or only compare the system to how it was at (last) activation? (Or original activation?) I think I knew that XPinfo didn't work with VLK, but I thought it did work with OEM licenses. I can tell you it works with system builder and retail licenses, and *I think* MSDN / Technet subscriptions too. The wording in the readme is something like "won't work with any version that does not require activation, such as OEM or volume licencing keys". XPinfo will tell you the current state of which components are the same now vs when XP was last validated (which is usually, but not necessarily when XP was originally installed). It didn't work on this machine (came - new - with XP installed). Well, I say didn't work: it at first came up with an error box saying "Cannot collect configuration data (-204). (a) You are running a volume-licensed version or OEM release of Windows XP. (b) You have not activated your installation of XP, yet. OK". (I assume there's an implied "OR" between those.) When I click OK, it comes up with another window headed "Fully Licensed" in big letters, below which are ten text boxes for things like Processor model, which are indeed greyed out; it does show the first 15 characters of the key though. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never be led astray onto the path of virtue. |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
It didn't work on this machine (came - new - with XP installed). Well, I say didn't work: it at first came up with an error box saying "Cannot collect configuration data (-204). (a) You are running a volume-licensed version or OEM release of Windows XP. (b) You have not activated your installation of XP, yet. OK". (I assume there's an implied "OR" between those.) When I click OK, it comes up with another window headed "Fully Licensed" in big letters, below which are ten text boxes for things like Processor model, which are indeed greyed out; it does show the first 15 characters of the key though. Take your key sequence (the entire part of it that XPInfo shows, or maybe just 1 or 2 of the sequences) and do a google search on that. If your key is OEM, then your key should be well-known and will appear in some list or discussion somewhere at some time. If you can't find any mention of any part of your key on the internet, chances are very high it's not oem or vlk. |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
In message , Some Guy writes:
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: It didn't work on this machine (came - new - with XP installed). Well, I say didn't work: it at first came up with an error box saying "Cannot collect configuration data (-204). (a) You are running a volume-licensed version or OEM release of Windows XP. (b) You have not activated your installation of XP, yet. OK". (I assume there's an implied "OR" between those.) When I click OK, it comes up with another window headed "Fully Licensed" in big letters, below which are ten text boxes for things like Processor model, which are indeed greyed out; it does show the first 15 characters of the key though. Take your key sequence (the entire part of it that XPInfo shows, or maybe just 1 or 2 of the sequences) and do a google search on that. If your key is OEM, then your key should be well-known and will appear in some list or discussion somewhere at some time. If you can't find any mention of any part of your key on the internet, chances are very high it's not oem or vlk. Oh, I'm sure it's legal - the machine was bought new from a reputable store. But I did what you suggested anyway (using the yyyyy-yyyyy-yyyyy part that xpinfo showed), and Google says "About 1,260 results". So I guess it is indeed OEM. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf Never be led astray onto the path of virtue. |
Cloning a 2.5" IDE/PATA Laptop Hard drive
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 12:46:05 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: Thanks for that. Incidentally, xpinfo doesn't work with OEM (or VLK). [] By the way, this is where you can get Ghost 2003: http://www.dslreports.com/r0/downloa...a3653cce1c3f14 7b3d4/GHOST_BOOTx.zip Thanks for that too. I've downloaded both. It looks like you are saying that you downloaded the Ghost zipfile. Is that correct? It is refusing to download for me. It starts downloading and fails after about 10 seconds, saying "source could not be read". Maybe this has something to do with my slow dialup internet, but it dont even try. I have tried to DL this thing at least 10 times, used different browsers too. Another browser said: "Does not appear to be a valid archive" The file is 1.3mb. It will take a half hour on my dialup, but I can usually DL files of that size without problems. This does look to be thge best way to clone these drives. I dont even want to attempt to do it with a CD, because I've been thru trying to configure CD drives and Hard drives on the same cable, and it naver worked. Not to mention I only have connectors for TWO IDEs and would need THREE. On top of that, I will do anything to avoid burning CDs. Thats generally another nightmare, especially if they need to be bootable. I'll have to drive to town and see if I can download it at a WIFI, but it sure seems like the file is borked, and I'm not willing to drive 10 miles for nothing. |
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