Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

On 20-Nov-2015 14:25, Ron wrote:
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/

No it doesn't. I have Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.3 and the
option to Go back to Win7 is still there.
Once you click on the Get Started button you get a bunch of questions
why you are going back. I stopped there because I don't want to go back
just yet.

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

On 11/20/2015 3:38 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Nov-2015 14:25, Ron wrote:
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/


No it doesn't. I have Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.3 and the
option to Go back to Win7 is still there.
Once you click on the Get Started button you get a bunch of questions
why you are going back. I stopped there because I don't want to go back
just yet.

Two more cites claiming it does. The second link has a screencap that
says "We're sorry, but you can't go back"

http://wind8apps.com/windows-10-1511-rollback/


http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

On 11/20/2015 6:57 PM, Ron wrote:
On 11/20/2015 3:38 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Nov-2015 14:25, Ron wrote:
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/



No it doesn't. I have Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.3 and the
option to Go back to Win7 is still there.
Once you click on the Get Started button you get a bunch of questions
why you are going back. I stopped there because I don't want to go back
just yet.

Two more cites claiming it does. The second link has a screencap that
says "We're sorry, but you can't go back"

http://wind8apps.com/windows-10-1511-rollback/


http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/

When you do an upgrade to W10 it bundles the old operating system into a
folder called Windows.old.

As for my understanding of the major upgrade known as 1151 if done to a
working W10 system it too bundles the old (now the prior to 1511 W10)
working OS and calls it the same name, windows.old, and basically
overwriting the old W7 or W8 version of windows.old.

So while there might be a menu option to go back to W7 or W8 the actual
"original" windows.old file is no longer on the hard drive to use...

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

Ron wrote:

The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/

"Now, when you have multiple tabs active in the browser, rolling over a
tab name pops up a handy thumbnail of its webpage"

As opposed to the Aero theme where hovering the mouse over a task bar
button shows the previews (and works with non-Microsoft web browsers and
even with more than just web browsers). So they moved where the
previews are shown. So now there is even more hotspots where windows
popup to block your view.

The Tab Scope add-on been available for Firefox for almost 5 years and
with a *real-time* preview, multiple preview sizes, and lots of options.
What's nice about add-ons is that you don't have to wait until the next
major version of the web browser for new features to show up. Alas, no
extension support yet with Edge but even then nowhere near the selection
available for other web browsers.

Is there any user actually waiting for Microsoft to catch up?

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

On 21/11/2015 02:25, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 11/20/2015 6:57 PM, Ron wrote:
On 11/20/2015 3:38 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Nov-2015 14:25, Ron wrote:
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/




No it doesn't. I have Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.3 and the
option to Go back to Win7 is still there.
Once you click on the Get Started button you get a bunch of questions
why you are going back. I stopped there because I don't want to go back
just yet.

Two more cites claiming it does. The second link has a screencap that
says "We're sorry, but you can't go back"

http://wind8apps.com/windows-10-1511-rollback/


http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/


When you do an upgrade to W10 it bundles the old operating system into a
folder called Windows.old.

As for my understanding of the major upgrade known as 1151 if done to a
working W10 system it too bundles the old (now the prior to 1511 W10)
working OS and calls it the same name, windows.old, and basically
overwriting the old W7 or W8 version of windows.old.

So while there might be a menu option to go back to W7 or W8 the actual
"original" windows.old file is no longer on the hard drive to use...

Does this mean that the problem can be circumvented by re-naming the
existing windows.old (to e.g. windows.old1) before doing the latest update?

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

On 11/21/2015 2:23 AM, occam wrote:
On 21/11/2015 02:25, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 11/20/2015 6:57 PM, Ron wrote:
On 11/20/2015 3:38 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Nov-2015 14:25, Ron wrote:
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/




No it doesn't. I have Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.3 and the
option to Go back to Win7 is still there.
Once you click on the Get Started button you get a bunch of questions
why you are going back. I stopped there because I don't want to go back
just yet.

Two more cites claiming it does. The second link has a screencap that
says "We're sorry, but you can't go back"

http://wind8apps.com/windows-10-1511-rollback/


http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/


When you do an upgrade to W10 it bundles the old operating system into a
folder called Windows.old.

As for my understanding of the major upgrade known as 1151 if done to a
working W10 system it too bundles the old (now the prior to 1511 W10)
working OS and calls it the same name, windows.old, and basically
overwriting the old W7 or W8 version of windows.old.

So while there might be a menu option to go back to W7 or W8 the actual
"original" windows.old file is no longer on the hard drive to use...

Does this mean that the problem can be circumvented by re-naming the
existing windows.old (to e.g. windows.old1) before doing the latest update?

Not having tried it I would have to say a cautious yes, before doing the
1511 upgrade.

You would have to remember to rename it back if you wanted to use it
before it's 30 day shelf life expires or whatever Microsoft wants to
allow it's age to become before it's used.

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 11/21/2015 2:23 AM, occam wrote:
On 21/11/2015 02:25, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 11/20/2015 6:57 PM, Ron wrote:
On 11/20/2015 3:38 PM, Leala wrote:
On 20-Nov-2015 14:25, Ron wrote:
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/





No it doesn't. I have Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.3 and
the
option to Go back to Win7 is still there.
Once you click on the Get Started button you get a bunch of questions
why you are going back. I stopped there because I don't want to go
back
just yet.

Two more cites claiming it does. The second link has a screencap that
says "We're sorry, but you can't go back"

http://wind8apps.com/windows-10-1511-rollback/


http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/



When you do an upgrade to W10 it bundles the old operating system into a
folder called Windows.old.

As for my understanding of the major upgrade known as 1151 if done to a
working W10 system it too bundles the old (now the prior to 1511 W10)
working OS and calls it the same name, windows.old, and basically
overwriting the old W7 or W8 version of windows.old.

So while there might be a menu option to go back to W7 or W8 the actual
"original" windows.old file is no longer on the hard drive to use...

Does this mean that the problem can be circumvented by re-naming the
existing windows.old (to e.g. windows.old1) before doing the latest
update?

Not having tried it I would have to say a cautious yes, before doing the
1511 upgrade.

You would have to remember to rename it back if you wanted to use it
before it's 30 day shelf life expires or whatever Microsoft wants to
allow it's age to become before it's used.

This is pretty easy to understand from circumstantial evidence.

The "recovery" partition could be just about anything,
depending on the OS history of the box. The "recovery" partition
may not contain anything useful, unless the user did the
research and *manually* created something suitable for
emergencies. Reset/Refresh are no longer sane...

You may be able to use Reset/Refresh which relies on
an OEM partition, but study the characteristics first
to make sure it's going to do the correct thing.

I have some OS test installs here, where the Reset/Refresh
would just make a mess (not do what I would expect of them).

*******

The Windows Rollback scheme is only good for one "Upgrade" cycle.
Where an Update cycle is "you receive a 3.5GB download from
Microsoft and it changes the entire OS". If you do Win7 to Win10 10240,
that is an OS Upgrade. You have 30 days to revert to Win7.
*However*, if 10586 comes in 20 days after 10240 was
installed by the user, the user can only roll back
to 10240, not Windows 7. The 30 days is not a "guarantee",
it's a suggested serving if there are no rapid changes
in the air.

When you start a major Upgrade cycle, it moves Windows to
Windows.old . It moves Windows.old to /dev/null . (And plopping
in some random Windows.old you found on a street corner, you
*know* that directory has more structure to its usage than that.)

It's similar to the Microsoft driver rollback feature
in Device Manager. That only goes back one level,
and it isn't infinite. If you cycle the thing too
many times, you could lose something valuable.

Disk Cleanup ("cleanmgr.exe") is set up on Windows 8 and
Windows 10, to remove Windows.old when it reaches the
30 day mark. This is why you have 30 days to revert
in the simplest scenario (Win7 to Win10 10240 to Win7).
But this is purely coincidental - this isn't "planned".
There is reversion capability because of the
existence of Windows.old. The 30 day erasure thing
came along, before Windows 10 came along. So it's
just an accident it happens to be 30 days. Once
you understand it's a "convenience" and not a guarantee
you will

"Backup! Backup! Backup!"

your original OS. Did I mention you should backup
your original OS ? Well, you should.

Paul

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

Ron avait soumis l'idée :
The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to roll
your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31 day
deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/

Hello,

My experience :
On 1 old laptop Extensa 5635G 64 bits laptop : no issue at all
On 1 old desktop medion : a lot of issues due to the old audigy
soundcard. After removing this soundcard : no issue at all.
Thus DO make a backup of your system drive and all your personal data.

After succesfull update, no peculiar issue to mention!

With kind regard.

alpibucky

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

Ron posted this via
:

The November release of Windows 10 version 1151 removes the option to
roll your machine back to the previous operating system before the 31
day deadline.

http://windowssecrets.com/top-story/
windows-10-gets-its-first-big-update/

I just transitioned to Win10 Pro version: 1511 OS Build: 10586.11 ... I
held back for a few days (using the Settings | Updates & Security | Windows
Update interface to delay...) from NOV 12th until NOV 19th, just to peruse
any complaints that popped up on the Internets from the intial release[s].

The option to roll-back to Win8.1 Pro is still there... On mine. The
WindowsSecrets author either has adaptive issues or had an intensely
personal experience which s/he's trying transfer to h/er/is area of
influence.

PLUS : [WORTH NOTING], I backup imaged each step of the way from Win7
Home Premium, thru Win 8 Pro, thru Win 8.1 Pro, thru Windows 10 initial
upgrade and now the cumulative upgrade. This makes the issues of rolling-
back, and the time-limitations to roll-back, very moot... at least during
the year-long "free" upgrade period.

Listen peeples, we've got a freebie year to mess-around with this new OS -
explore options and configurations - as well as share tips and findings.
MSFT has committed to Windows 10 as the future of computing. IMHO, it's
better to learn now than play catch-up - and SPEND THE MONEY - to upgrade
next year, sometime after the freebie period has expired.

Remember, there is no "I" in "upgrade"!

Folks should seriously consider obtaining one of the fine freeware backup
imaging tools to protect and preserve their current OS, especially if they
really, really 3's it so much.

I use AOMEI Backupper Standard; as well as using AOMEI Partition Assistant
Standard Edition to partition my HDD for data files storage - then copy
these as they're created to a removable HDD - also uploading a copy to an
off-site server ("Cloud"-type). Fubar'ed updates and system glitches are
easily resolved, plus my preferences in a past life are preserved. (^;

FWIW

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

Paul wrote:

"Backup! Backup! Backup!"

your original OS. Did I mention you should backup
your original OS ? Well, you should.

Paul

+1+

--
....winston
msft mvp windows experience

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

Am 21.11.2015 um 17:26 schrieb Bucky Breeder:

MSFT has committed to Windows 10 as the future of computing.

Do you mean, to Linux?
SCNR

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

Jonas Klein posted
this via :

Am 21.11.2015 um 17:26 schrieb Bucky Breeder:

MSFT has committed to Windows 10 as the future of computing.

Do you mean, to Linux?
SCNR

Just a minute... while I check 2 see if that's wat I haz meant?

I know 'cats' is the future of the internets. So maybe.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra, RIP 9/22/2015, always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://i.imgur.com/f193YWS.jpg?1

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

On 21/11/2015 00:57, Ron wrote:

http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/


The author(s) of that article haven't got a clue.
They keep talking about the rollback partition!!!!
It's not a partition -- it's a directory.

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.

Warning About Upgrading To Windows 10
 

It actually does make hidden partitions that you cant see.
but deletes them when you get to a certain number of rollback dates.


--
AL'S COMPUTERS
"Brian Gregory" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2015 00:57, Ron wrote:

http://www.windows10update.com/2015/11/windows-10-threshold-2-removing-rollback-partitions/


The author(s) of that article haven't got a clue.
They keep talking about the rollback partition!!!!
It's not a partition -- it's a directory.

--

Brian Gregory (in the UK).
To email me please remove all the letter vee from my email address.