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Robson February 6th 15 12:29 PM

Freeware after ten
 
Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


Joel February 6th 15 12:39 PM

Freeware after ten
 
Even if you buy software on store, you run the risk of buying pirate windows.

"Robson" wrote in message ...

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


Joel February 6th 15 12:39 PM

Freeware after ten
 
Even if you buy software on store, you run the risk of buying pirate windows.

"Robson" wrote in message ...

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


Roderick Stewart February 6th 15 01:50 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:29:48 -0000, "Robson"
wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


I might not even bother with W10. My desktop, laptop and media centre
all run W7, for which I understand support will run out in 2020, so
I've got until then to decide what to use next. By that time,
Microsoft will probably be up to W12 or W13, but whatever it is I'll
want to take a look before making any changes. In the meantime I'll
try to remain reasonably familiar with Linux in case that's the way
forward, which by 2020 it might well be. There are some very good
Linux distributions already.

If I build any new computers in the next year or so, I might give W10
some consideration because it's a lot better than W8, but I see no
compelling reason to upgrade anything currently running W7.

Rod.

Roderick Stewart February 6th 15 01:50 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:29:48 -0000, "Robson"
wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


I might not even bother with W10. My desktop, laptop and media centre
all run W7, for which I understand support will run out in 2020, so
I've got until then to decide what to use next. By that time,
Microsoft will probably be up to W12 or W13, but whatever it is I'll
want to take a look before making any changes. In the meantime I'll
try to remain reasonably familiar with Linux in case that's the way
forward, which by 2020 it might well be. There are some very good
Linux distributions already.

If I build any new computers in the next year or so, I might give W10
some consideration because it's a lot better than W8, but I see no
compelling reason to upgrade anything currently running W7.

Rod.

philo February 6th 15 02:06 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On 02/06/2015 07:50 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:29:48 -0000, "Robson"
wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


I might not even bother with W10. My desktop, laptop and media centre
all run W7, for which I understand support will run out in 2020, so
I've got until then to decide what to use next. By that time,
Microsoft will probably be up to W12 or W13, but whatever it is I'll
want to take a look before making any changes. In the meantime I'll
try to remain reasonably familiar with Linux in case that's the way
forward, which by 2020 it might well be. There are some very good
Linux distributions already.

If I build any new computers in the next year or so, I might give W10
some consideration because it's a lot better than W8, but I see no
compelling reason to upgrade anything currently running W7.

Rod.




Although I have been evaluating Win10 and much prefer it to Win8 I still
use Linux most of the time.

The main reason is for on-line security concerning financial
transactions and just plain general browsing etc.

Maintaining a Windows system properly can be tedious and with Linux I do
not have to worry about all the malware out there written specifically
for Windows.


That said, I find that in the real world Windows is something that
cannot be avoided.


Just one example:


I'm a photographer (among other things) and the film/slide scanning
capabilities of my hardware is not supported as well on Linux as it is
by Windows. I'd call Linux support "good" but for extremely hi-res scans
not quite as capable as I can do from Windows.



philo February 6th 15 02:06 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On 02/06/2015 07:50 AM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:29:48 -0000, "Robson"
wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and you
won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal trap this
windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you don't even have
a decent calculator so people run to illegal download and install properties
of microsoft.


I might not even bother with W10. My desktop, laptop and media centre
all run W7, for which I understand support will run out in 2020, so
I've got until then to decide what to use next. By that time,
Microsoft will probably be up to W12 or W13, but whatever it is I'll
want to take a look before making any changes. In the meantime I'll
try to remain reasonably familiar with Linux in case that's the way
forward, which by 2020 it might well be. There are some very good
Linux distributions already.

If I build any new computers in the next year or so, I might give W10
some consideration because it's a lot better than W8, but I see no
compelling reason to upgrade anything currently running W7.

Rod.




Although I have been evaluating Win10 and much prefer it to Win8 I still
use Linux most of the time.

The main reason is for on-line security concerning financial
transactions and just plain general browsing etc.

Maintaining a Windows system properly can be tedious and with Linux I do
not have to worry about all the malware out there written specifically
for Windows.


That said, I find that in the real world Windows is something that
cannot be avoided.


Just one example:


I'm a photographer (among other things) and the film/slide scanning
capabilities of my hardware is not supported as well on Linux as it is
by Windows. I'd call Linux support "good" but for extremely hi-res scans
not quite as capable as I can do from Windows.



VanguardLH[_2_] February 6th 15 04:28 PM

Freeware after ten
 
Robson wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and
you won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal
trap this windows ten technical preview.


You really have no clue what is a preview release? You really thought
that you got to use it forever even after the public release showed up?
They gave you a *preview*. They want technically proficient users to
*test* their preview release. Microsoft doesn't visit Usenet so this is
not where you submit bug reports and feedback. Preview releases are
tested on test platforms.

There's no trap to using a preview trap except by ignorants that use a
preview release as a production or critical OS instead of as a test OS.
You obtained the preview. You chose to be an unpaid voluntary tester.
Besides testing, you get to prepare yourself for what the public release
might be like but even you should know the public release may and will
likely differ from the preview release(s).

You really thought you would get to use a preview release forever? You
really are using a preview release as your production OS?

They give it for free


They did not [yet] give Windows 10 to you for free. They gave you a
*PREVIEW* release that you are supposed to test, report bugs, and give
feedback so they can make fixes or add enhancements BEFORE the public
release. It's a test version. You chose to be a tester. Testing lasts
only as long as the test versions are supported. Obviously Microsoft
won't support a test version after they released a public version.

but you don't even have a decent calculator so people run to illegal
download and install properties of microsoft.


Whine, whine, whine. You're using a *PREVIEW* version of the OS and you
thought it must surely be identical to the final public release?
Besides you using a preview release, you are testing (and supposedly not
using as a critical or production host) the TECHNICAL preview release.
They haven't even come out with the consumer preview release yet.
That's next and then comes the public release.

Sure looks like you should never have bothered with obtaining Windows 10
until it actually gets released. You don't appear to be the qualified
tester of a preview release they were hoping for. Have you been
reporting bugs and submitting RFCs and RFEs (request for changes,
request for enhancement) to Microsoft? Probably not.

You can't even top-post correctly. Regardless of the argument for top-
versus bottom-posting, whatever is your choice should also be evident in
the same order of quoted posts. If you top-post then arrange all quoted
content in top-post order. If you bottom-post then arrange all quoted
content on bottom-post order. Whatever posting style you argue for
should also be evident in all the content you quote; else, you don't
practice a posting order and instead compose a jumbled mess of top- and
bottom-posted content because you're too lazy by using the default order
of your NNTP client. Your choice of NNTP client (WLM) doesn't even
properly quote the cited content since version 14 so that task is now up
to you to perform. You don't do that, either.

VanguardLH[_2_] February 6th 15 04:28 PM

Freeware after ten
 
Robson wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and
you won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal
trap this windows ten technical preview.


You really have no clue what is a preview release? You really thought
that you got to use it forever even after the public release showed up?
They gave you a *preview*. They want technically proficient users to
*test* their preview release. Microsoft doesn't visit Usenet so this is
not where you submit bug reports and feedback. Preview releases are
tested on test platforms.

There's no trap to using a preview trap except by ignorants that use a
preview release as a production or critical OS instead of as a test OS.
You obtained the preview. You chose to be an unpaid voluntary tester.
Besides testing, you get to prepare yourself for what the public release
might be like but even you should know the public release may and will
likely differ from the preview release(s).

You really thought you would get to use a preview release forever? You
really are using a preview release as your production OS?

They give it for free


They did not [yet] give Windows 10 to you for free. They gave you a
*PREVIEW* release that you are supposed to test, report bugs, and give
feedback so they can make fixes or add enhancements BEFORE the public
release. It's a test version. You chose to be a tester. Testing lasts
only as long as the test versions are supported. Obviously Microsoft
won't support a test version after they released a public version.

but you don't even have a decent calculator so people run to illegal
download and install properties of microsoft.


Whine, whine, whine. You're using a *PREVIEW* version of the OS and you
thought it must surely be identical to the final public release?
Besides you using a preview release, you are testing (and supposedly not
using as a critical or production host) the TECHNICAL preview release.
They haven't even come out with the consumer preview release yet.
That's next and then comes the public release.

Sure looks like you should never have bothered with obtaining Windows 10
until it actually gets released. You don't appear to be the qualified
tester of a preview release they were hoping for. Have you been
reporting bugs and submitting RFCs and RFEs (request for changes,
request for enhancement) to Microsoft? Probably not.

You can't even top-post correctly. Regardless of the argument for top-
versus bottom-posting, whatever is your choice should also be evident in
the same order of quoted posts. If you top-post then arrange all quoted
content in top-post order. If you bottom-post then arrange all quoted
content on bottom-post order. Whatever posting style you argue for
should also be evident in all the content you quote; else, you don't
practice a posting order and instead compose a jumbled mess of top- and
bottom-posted content because you're too lazy by using the default order
of your NNTP client. Your choice of NNTP client (WLM) doesn't even
properly quote the cited content since version 14 so that task is now up
to you to perform. You don't do that, either.

Roderick Stewart February 6th 15 05:30 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:06:53 -0600, philo wrote:


I'm a photographer (among other things) and the film/slide scanning
capabilities of my hardware is not supported as well on Linux as it is
by Windows. I'd call Linux support "good" but for extremely hi-res scans
not quite as capable as I can do from Windows.


Don't you use Vuescan? That's available for Linux as well as Windows,
so its capabilities should be exactly the same for both.

Rod.

Roderick Stewart February 6th 15 05:30 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 08:06:53 -0600, philo wrote:


I'm a photographer (among other things) and the film/slide scanning
capabilities of my hardware is not supported as well on Linux as it is
by Windows. I'd call Linux support "good" but for extremely hi-res scans
not quite as capable as I can do from Windows.


Don't you use Vuescan? That's available for Linux as well as Windows,
so its capabilities should be exactly the same for both.

Rod.

ray carter February 6th 15 06:10 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 12:29:48 +0000, Robson wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and
you won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal
trap this windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you
don't even have a decent calculator so people run to illegal download
and install properties of microsoft.


GNU/Linux is open source - not 'freeware' - I believe there is a
distinction, and there are indeed commercial Linux distributions.

ray carter February 6th 15 06:10 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On Fri, 06 Feb 2015 12:29:48 +0000, Robson wrote:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free and
you won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a surreal
trap this windows ten technical preview. They give it for free but you
don't even have a decent calculator so people run to illegal download
and install properties of microsoft.


GNU/Linux is open source - not 'freeware' - I believe there is a
distinction, and there are indeed commercial Linux distributions.

Nil[_5_] February 6th 15 07:31 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On 06 Feb 2015, "Robson" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free
and you won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a
surreal trap this windows ten technical preview. They give it for
free but you don't even have a decent calculator so people run to
illegal download and install properties of microsoft.


You are a thief and will always steal software. Therefore it doesn't
matter what OS you use.

Nil[_5_] February 6th 15 07:31 PM

Freeware after ten
 
On 06 Feb 2015, "Robson" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10:

Probably after windows ten I'll be moving to Linux because is free
and you won't risk of being accused of stealing software. It's a
surreal trap this windows ten technical preview. They give it for
free but you don't even have a decent calculator so people run to
illegal download and install properties of microsoft.


You are a thief and will always steal software. Therefore it doesn't
matter what OS you use.


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