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Seymore4Head[_2_] January 1st 18 10:59 PM

Mis naming a file
 
I used search to find files in more than one drive. I meant to add an
extra word to the filename. I must have mis typed or deleted part of
the filename. When I pressed enter, the file disappeared from the
search. Since I misnamed it, is there a way to find the file?

I tried using the same drives in the search and sort by date, but
nothing comes up with today's date.

Paul[_32_] January 2nd 18 01:20 AM

Mis naming a file
 
Seymore4Head wrote:
I used search to find files in more than one drive. I meant to add an
extra word to the filename. I must have mis typed or deleted part of
the filename. When I pressed enter, the file disappeared from the
search. Since I misnamed it, is there a way to find the file?

I tried using the same drives in the search and sort by date, but
nothing comes up with today's date.


NTFS has the USN Journal. FAT32 doesn't have anything like that.

A partition can have the Journal recently deleted.

And the Journal (apparently) can be turned off, because
I have some partitions where the tools swear one isn't
present on NTFS.

In any case, here is an example of someone inspecting it.

https://tzworks.net/prototype_page.php?proto_id=5

The picture at the bottom of the page, the top entry says:

filename type change
V01tmp.log file_new_name;file_closed

There is also a datestamp.

I've not used the Journal for anything, so at the moment it's
merely amusing.

Paul

Ian Jackson[_4_] January 2nd 18 12:13 PM

Mis naming a file
 
In message , Paul
writes
Seymore4Head wrote:
I used search to find files in more than one drive. I meant to add an
extra word to the filename. I must have mis typed or deleted part of
the filename. When I pressed enter, the file disappeared from the
search. Since I misnamed it, is there a way to find the file?
I tried using the same drives in the search and sort by date, but
nothing comes up with today's date.


NTFS has the USN Journal. FAT32 doesn't have anything like that.

A partition can have the Journal recently deleted.

And the Journal (apparently) can be turned off, because
I have some partitions where the tools swear one isn't
present on NTFS.

In any case, here is an example of someone inspecting it.

https://tzworks.net/prototype_page.php?proto_id=5

The picture at the bottom of the page, the top entry says:

filename type change
V01tmp.log file_new_name;file_closed

There is also a datestamp.

I've not used the Journal for anything, so at the moment it's
merely amusing.

Paul


I would have thought that a search by 'All files and folders' then 'When
was it modified?' would find a mis-renamed file. If it doesn't, I
usually find that the reason is that the name I'm searching on is wrong.
*.* will find everything with an extension.
* will find everything - even if it has no extension.
*.doc will find only doc files (as will .doc)
And so on. - but presumably you've done this already.

However, another reason is that I didn't actually change the filename.
This can happen if you get as far as changing the name, but close the
window before clicking somewhere else on the window (eg a blank space).
If so, the filename - and more importantly, the Date Modified - will
remain unchanged. As a result, you will be searching for the wrong date.
--
Ian

Seymore4Head[_2_] January 4th 18 04:22 PM

Mis naming a file
 
On Tue, 2 Jan 2018 11:13:35 +0000, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Paul
writes
Seymore4Head wrote:
I used search to find files in more than one drive. I meant to add an
extra word to the filename. I must have mis typed or deleted part of
the filename. When I pressed enter, the file disappeared from the
search. Since I misnamed it, is there a way to find the file?
I tried using the same drives in the search and sort by date, but
nothing comes up with today's date.


NTFS has the USN Journal. FAT32 doesn't have anything like that.

A partition can have the Journal recently deleted.

And the Journal (apparently) can be turned off, because
I have some partitions where the tools swear one isn't
present on NTFS.

In any case, here is an example of someone inspecting it.

https://tzworks.net/prototype_page.php?proto_id=5

The picture at the bottom of the page, the top entry says:

filename type change
V01tmp.log file_new_name;file_closed

There is also a datestamp.

I've not used the Journal for anything, so at the moment it's
merely amusing.

Paul


I would have thought that a search by 'All files and folders' then 'When
was it modified?' would find a mis-renamed file. If it doesn't, I
usually find that the reason is that the name I'm searching on is wrong.
*.* will find everything with an extension.
* will find everything - even if it has no extension.
*.doc will find only doc files (as will .doc)
And so on. - but presumably you've done this already.

However, another reason is that I didn't actually change the filename.
This can happen if you get as far as changing the name, but close the
window before clicking somewhere else on the window (eg a blank space).
If so, the filename - and more importantly, the Date Modified - will
remain unchanged. As a result, you will be searching for the wrong date.


This doesn't work, does it? When you rename a file it doesn't seem to
change Date Modified.

Ian Jackson[_4_] January 4th 18 05:40 PM

Mis naming a file
 
In message , Seymore4Head
writes





However, another reason is that I didn't actually change the filename.
This can happen if you get as far as changing the name, but close the
window before clicking somewhere else on the window (eg a blank space).
If so, the filename - and more importantly, the Date Modified - will
remain unchanged. As a result, you will be searching for the wrong date.


This doesn't work, does it? When you rename a file it doesn't seem to
change Date Modified.


Oh bother!

You are, of course. absolutely RIGHT.
--
Ian


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