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Ant March 7th 09 05:00 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2with limited free disk spaces?
 
Hello.

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance. :)
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Patrick Keenan March 7th 09 06:09 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
"Ant" wrote in message
...
Hello.

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's default
disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files (mostly
VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are there any
better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I think it is
because of the severe fragmentations.



It's the one that comes with XP.

This won't run with less than 15% free space, and if your drive is that
cramped, you should move files elsewhere.

Get another hard drive to store the VMware images. Where I am,
half-terabyte drives are under $100, decent cases around $30, and that would
end your problem for some time. If this is an office computer, it's
probably a tax-deductible business expense.

HTH
-pk



Thank you in advance. :)
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Jose March 7th 09 08:09 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2with limited free disk spaces?
 
On Mar 7, 12:09*pm, "Patrick Keenan" wrote:
"Ant" wrote in message

...

Hello.


Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's default
disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files (mostly
VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are there any
better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I think it is
because of the severe fragmentations.


It's the one that comes with XP.

This won't run with less than 15% free space, and if your drive is that
cramped, you should move files elsewhere.

Get another hard drive to store the VMware images. *Where I am,
half-terabyte drives are under $100, decent cases around $30, and that would
end your problem for some time. * *If this is an office computer, it's
probably a tax-deductible business expense.

HTH
-pk



Thank you in advance. :)
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Is this your desktop computer your office computer?

Why are you not running SP3? Why are so many that people that post
problems here not even current on software updates that are free and
highly recommended?

You are not current on your MS software. Your IT people, or somebody
you probably know, needs to fix this. I don't know of too many people
that are going to be happy to help you figure out why old software
does not work as you expect it to or believe it should.

Why do you have think you have VMWare images on your office computer?
Are you the VMWare administrator? Do you keep VMWare images on your
personal desktop computer? Do you know what a VMWare image is or do
you just see some big files that don't want to defragment and you
think they should?

VMWare usually runs on a separate and powerful VMWare server and
supplies the resources of an actual physical servers (boxes) as
virtual machines where physical servers are not available or possible
due to cost, environmental or personality factors. is your desktop a
VMWare server?

If you want VMWare to be happy, a VMWare server should be dedicated to
being a VMWare server only - happy with it's virtual machines and not
much else. You should not be touching it or defragmenting it if you
don't know what you are up to.

Do any of these situations apply to your environment?

Do you have a VMWare problem or is your desktop just not performing to
your expectations?


Swifty March 7th 09 10:10 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
Ant wrote:
Are there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.


http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

But no defragmenter can be bothered to defragment huge files on a disk
with little free space.

If you are a gambler you could offload the large images to a memory key,
defragment the disk, then copy them back. Memory keys sometimes lose data.

The standard XP defragmenter defragments the files, but doesn't
defragment the free space. This is where JKDefrag is better; it
defragments the files, and as far as possible conglomerates the free
space as well.

--
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http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

Gerry March 7th 09 11:24 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
Ant

How limited is the free disk? Like Patrick I have long been an advocate of
using the Microsoft Disk Defragmenter. There are ways of getting round the
15% rule but it would be helpful to see a Disk Defragmenter report before I
make suggestions.

Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click
on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and
post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more
informative.

An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler
(freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth
looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes
from the software house providing cCleaner:
http://www.defraggler.com/features


--


Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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"Ant" wrote in message
...
Hello.

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's default
disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files (mostly
VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are there any
better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I think it is
because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance. :)
--
"An ant's nest could bring down a hill." --Japanese
/\___/\
/ /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site)
| |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net
\ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: NT
( ) or

Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.




Ant March 8th 09 03:01 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
On 3/7/2009 11:09 AM PT, Jose typed:

Is this your desktop computer your office computer?


Office. :( Employer has no budget to get me a bigger/new HDD.


Why are you not running SP3? Why are so many that people that post
problems here not even current on software updates that are free and
highly recommended?


IT doesn't support it yet. :(


You are not current on your MS software. Your IT people, or somebody
you probably know, needs to fix this. I don't know of too many people
that are going to be happy to help you figure out why old software
does not work as you expect it to or believe it should.


What old software doesn't work in XP Pro. SP2? I do keep it updated when
critical updates appear in Automatic Updates.


Why do you have think you have VMWare images on your office computer?
Are you the VMWare administrator? Do you keep VMWare images on your
personal desktop computer? Do you know what a VMWare image is or do
you just see some big files that don't want to defragment and you
think they should?


They are for VMware Workstation and I do testings. According to XP's
defragger, these huge files are very fragmented and can't be defragged
due to low free disk spaces.


VMWare usually runs on a separate and powerful VMWare server and
supplies the resources of an actual physical servers (boxes) as
virtual machines where physical servers are not available or possible
due to cost, environmental or personality factors. is your desktop a
VMWare server?


No.



Do any of these situations apply to your environment?


Nope.


Do you have a VMWare problem or is your desktop just not performing to
your expectations?


My computer HDD can be slow. PC is like 3-4 years old. It's a Dell
Optiplex GX270 I think.
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Ant March 8th 09 03:03 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
On 3/7/2009 2:24 PM PT, Gerry typed:

Ant

How limited is the free disk? Like Patrick I have long been an advocate of
using the Microsoft Disk Defragmenter. There are ways of getting round the
15% rule but it would be helpful to see a Disk Defragmenter report before I
make suggestions.


I believe I had 8 GB free on the D: drive. I don't remember what the
total size on this partition.


Open Disk Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and click
on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents Folder and
post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it is more
informative.


OK, I will do that tomorrow.


An interesting relatively new entrant to the market is Defraggler
(freeware for home users) which I am currently testing. It is worth
looking at and does not with any negative reports. It also comes
from the software house providing cCleaner:
http://www.defraggler.com/features


Does it handle low free disk space situations?
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men; as a self-educated specialist in several arts she is the superior
of any savage race of men; and in one or two high mental qualities she
is above the reach of any man..." --Mark Twain
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Daave March 8th 09 05:07 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
"Ant" wrote in message
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On 3/7/2009 11:09 AM PT, Jose typed:


Why are you not running SP3? Why are so many that people that post
problems here not even current on software updates that are free and
highly recommended?


IT doesn't support it yet. :(


That's a pretty lame IT department! The good news is updates for SP2 are
still available. But the end date for that keeps getting closer...



Jim[_33_] March 8th 09 06:20 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
On Sat, 07 Mar 2009 08:00:12 -0800, Ant
wrote:

Hello.

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance. :)


Defraggler is a good one .

Swifty March 8th 09 06:59 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
Daave wrote:
That's a pretty lame IT department! The good news is updates for SP2 are
still available. But the end date for that keeps getting closer...


Our "IT Department" supports well over 100,000 systems worldwide.
Some of our corporate applications come from 3rd party suppliers who
have not yet upgraded their code to cope with SP3
Some of the applications are known to fail on SP3

Would you force SP3 into such an environment? What lame excuses would
you use when people asked you why their applications no longer worked?

--
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk/swifty.html
http://www.ringers.org.uk

Bill in Co. March 8th 09 07:34 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
Swifty wrote:
Daave wrote:
That's a pretty lame IT department! The good news is updates for SP2 are
still available. But the end date for that keeps getting closer...


Our "IT Department" supports well over 100,000 systems worldwide.
Some of our corporate applications come from 3rd party suppliers who
have not yet upgraded their code to cope with SP3
Some of the applications are known to fail on SP3

Would you force SP3 into such an environment? What lame excuses would
you use when people asked you why their applications no longer worked?


Because some people buy into the mantra that if you don't "upgrade" your
system it will become a unprotected virus haven. And you'll lose free
support from MS, since the "upgrade" extends that date.



Daave March 8th 09 09:20 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
"Swifty" wrote in message
...
Daave wrote:
That's a pretty lame IT department! The good news is updates for SP2
are still available. But the end date for that keeps getting
closer...


Our "IT Department" supports well over 100,000 systems worldwide.
Some of our corporate applications come from 3rd party suppliers who
have not yet upgraded their code to cope with SP3
Some of the applications are known to fail on SP3

Would you force SP3 into such an environment? What lame excuses would
you use when people asked you why their applications no longer worked?


When you put it that way, *your* "IT Department" isn't lame. However, in
this case, the third-party suppliers who have had plenty of time to
upgrade their code and have chosen not to are the lame ones. For
security reasons, your IT department *will* need to eventually upgrade
these 100,000 systems worldwide to either XP with SP3 or something else.
It would be nice if these third-party chumps would get on board. If not,
I'm curious to know what the competition offers.



V Green March 8th 09 09:24 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 

"Bill in Co." wrote in message
...
Swifty wrote:
Daave wrote:
That's a pretty lame IT department! The good news is updates for SP2 are
still available. But the end date for that keeps getting closer...


Our "IT Department" supports well over 100,000 systems worldwide.
Some of our corporate applications come from 3rd party suppliers who
have not yet upgraded their code to cope with SP3
Some of the applications are known to fail on SP3

Would you force SP3 into such an environment? What lame excuses would
you use when people asked you why their applications no longer worked?


Because some people buy into the mantra that if you don't "upgrade" your
system it will become a unprotected virus haven. And you'll lose free
support from MS, since the "upgrade" extends that date.


What "support" would that be?

From what I see, we've been mostly on our
own for years now...unless the problem is so
pathetically simple a 5 year old could fix it.







Ant March 8th 09 10:01 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
On 3/8/2009 9:07 AM PT, Daave typed:

"Ant" wrote in message
...
On 3/7/2009 11:09 AM PT, Jose typed:


Why are you not running SP3? Why are so many that people that post
problems here not even current on software updates that are free and
highly recommended?

IT doesn't support it yet. :(


That's a pretty lame IT department! The good news is updates for SP2 are
still available. But the end date for that keeps getting closer...


Yeah. I know IT will force SP3 when SP2 ends its support. For now, SP2.
--
"Ants can lift up to 50 times their own weight. And your monitor is
missing. Time to bring out the bugspray." --BBspot's Geek Horoscopes
(2/28/2003)
/\___/\
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| |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net
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Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.

Ant March 8th 09 10:03 PM

What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro.SP2 with limited free disk spaces?
 
On 3/8/2009 10:20 AM PT, Jim typed:

Yesterday, I was defragging my office computer with XP Pro. SP2's
default disk defragger, but it was too fragmented with many huge files
(mostly VMware v5.5.9 images) and had limited free disk spaces. Are
there any better ones that doesn't cost a cent? My PC feels slower and I
think it is because of the severe fragmentations.

Thank you in advance. :)


Defraggler is a good one .


Do you know if it can handle limited free disk space?
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movie (English subtitles)
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