Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.

Does this printer have to have genuine Epson cartridges?

Thanks
JW

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

In article ,
wrote:

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.

you mean your epson printer refuses to accept counterfeit cartridges.

Does this printer have to have genuine Epson cartridges?

yes, or at least ones that are properly cloned.

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 09:35:18 -0400, wrote:

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.

Does it actually say 'not acceptable' or does it say that it looks like
you are not using genuine Epson cartridges and asks if you are sure you
want to use them?

If it doesn't recognise them remove and reinsert them as that sometimes
fixes the problem. Otherwise try a better make of fake cartridges or a
genuine one.

Don't exclude that you could always have a fault with the printer.

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Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

On 2018-09-15, rp wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 09:35:18 -0400, wrote:

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.

Does it actually say 'not acceptable' or does it say that it looks like
you are not using genuine Epson cartridges and asks if you are sure you
want to use them?

If it doesn't recognise them remove and reinsert them as that sometimes
fixes the problem. Otherwise try a better make of fake cartridges or a
genuine one.

Don't exclude that you could always have a fault with the printer.


Or doing some googling to see if Epson is doing what "apple crap" used
to do &/or will be doing. i.e. hardware devices like hdd, 4mm tape, etc
and 3.5 in floppies. apple required a special roms for identity as an
apple supported product; a floppy disk need to have a identifier on the
floppy as an apple supported product.

Without the apple roms & identifiers on a product, the product will
not work with any apple computer.

IOW, is epson requiring an epson identifier for usage?

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

In article , lew
wrote:

Or doing some googling to see if Epson is doing what "apple crap" used
to do &/or will be doing. i.e. hardware devices like hdd, 4mm tape, etc
and 3.5 in floppies. apple required a special roms for identity as an
apple supported product; a floppy disk need to have a identifier on the
floppy as an apple supported product.

Without the apple roms & identifiers on a product, the product will
not work with any apple computer.

bull****. non-apple hard drives, tape drives, floppy drives (for very
old macs), memory, mice/trackballs, displays, etc. will work with macs.

it's actually worse on the pc side. the hp spectre x2, which uses usb-c
for charging, requires an hp charger. other usb-c chargers will not
work. the dell has compatibility issues too. only apple and google are
compatible with anything.

https://images.techhive.com/images/a...laptop_chartin
g-100649896-orig.png

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 10:24:40 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.

you mean your epson printer refuses to accept counterfeit cartridges.

Does this printer have to have genuine Epson cartridges?

yes, or at least ones that are properly cloned.


I blew my printer name. I shud have said Epson XP830.
The new cartridges are remanufactures, not genuine.
The error screen says 'you need to replace the following carts:
410, 410XL.
My old carts were said to need to be replaced too.
Epson will not answer my email queries. Neither will ink dealers I
tried.

All other sites I see on Google want me to pay for expert helps.
Thanks
J

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

nospam wrote:
In article , lew
wrote:

Or doing some googling to see if Epson is doing what "apple crap" used
to do &/or will be doing. i.e. hardware devices like hdd, 4mm tape, etc
and 3.5 in floppies. apple required a special roms for identity as an
apple supported product; a floppy disk need to have a identifier on the
floppy as an apple supported product.

Without the apple roms & identifiers on a product, the product will
not work with any apple computer.

bull****. non-apple hard drives, tape drives, floppy drives (for very
old macs), memory, mice/trackballs, displays, etc. will work with macs.

I see you were careful not to add PCI cards to your list (the "sleep" problem).

Some Macs used NuBus cards. No problem there, as what
else uses NuBus cards ?

Some Macs used regular PCI.

A later model used 3.3V PCI cards (um...)

My Mac G4 has an AGP slot for video. To convert
between PC and Mac video, requires four signal
modifications. I changed my Mac video card to run
on the PC... because after only *one* OS version,
no more drivers for the card were supplied. I used
that card for gaming on the PC for at least five
years. Until something better came along (new PC box).

My Mac G4 only has USB 1.1 on the back. When silicon
was easily available at the time, to provide USB 2.0.
Every time I look at the back of that machine,
I mutter the name of... "Steve Jobs". Because it was
Jobs who decided that the Firewire connector would
be kind, and he would "relegate" the USB connector
on the box. It means, if I plug in a USB flash
stick, it runs at... 1MB/sec.

I was using Macs, for the software from work, and for
work at home (editing 500 page documents at home,
instead of having to drive to work). I wouldn't
say I was exactly "in love" with the hardware
end of things. That tended to the "dumpster fire"
side of things. There's nothing like playing
3D games at 20FPS for your entire life :-/

Paul

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 10:24:40 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.
you mean your epson printer refuses to accept counterfeit cartridges.

Does this printer have to have genuine Epson cartridges?
yes, or at least ones that are properly cloned.


I blew my printer name. I shud have said Epson XP830.
The new cartridges are remanufactures, not genuine.
The error screen says 'you need to replace the following carts:
410, 410XL.
My old carts were said to need to be replaced too.
Epson will not answer my email queries. Neither will ink dealers I
tried.

All other sites I see on Google want me to pay for expert helps.
Thanks
J

The Google search engine is quite fickle now.
Some parts of the day, I just get gibberish for
search results. Just now, I tried again, and
at least I'm seeing procedures returned to try out.
My search terms we

"Epson XP830 override chip"

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/h...one-cartridges

Cloned ink cartridges may confuse the Epson printer.

Step 1 Install your cloned ink cartridge into the Epson printer.
Step 2 Go to "Start Control Panel" on your computer.
Step 3 Double-click on "Printer."
Step 4 Right-click on the icon of your Epson printer and
choose "Printer Preferences" at the bottom of the dialog box.
Step 5 Click on the tab entitled "Speed and Progress" and see
the Epson printer monitor box.
Step 6 Check off the box that says "Disable Epson Status Monitor"
to turn off the ink monitor.
Step 7 Click "Save" and close the windows.
Your cloned ink cartridges should now work.

HTH,
Paul

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

In article , Paul
wrote:

Or doing some googling to see if Epson is doing what "apple crap" used
to do &/or will be doing. i.e. hardware devices like hdd, 4mm tape, etc
and 3.5 in floppies. apple required a special roms for identity as an
apple supported product; a floppy disk need to have a identifier on the
floppy as an apple supported product.

Without the apple roms & identifiers on a product, the product will
not work with any apple computer.

bull****. non-apple hard drives, tape drives, floppy drives (for very
old macs), memory, mice/trackballs, displays, etc. will work with macs.

I see you were careful not to add PCI cards to your list (the "sleep"
problem).

i didn't list every third party accessory available.

non-apple pci cards work perfectly fine, often without any additional
drivers.

and what 'sleep problem' ? it's possible for a card to inhibit sleep,
but that's up to the card.

Some Macs used NuBus cards. No problem there, as what
else uses NuBus cards ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuBus
NuBus (pron. 'New Bus') is a 32-bit parallel computer bus, originally
developed at MIT and standardized in 1987 as a part of the NuMachine
workstation project. The first complete implementation of the NuBus
was done by Western Digital for their NuMachine, and for the Lisp
Machines Inc. LMI Lambda. The NuBus was later incorporated in Lisp
products by Texas Instruments (Explorer), and used as the main
expansion bus by Apple Computer and NeXT. It is no longer widely used
outside the embedded market.

nubus was well ahead of what existed on pcs at the time:
In addition, NuBus was agnostic about the processor itself. Most
buses up to this point conformed to the signalling and data standards
of the machine they were plugged into (being big or little endian for
instance). NuBus made no such assumptions, which meant that any NuBus
card could be plugged into any NuBus machine, as long as there was an
appropriate device driver.

numerous third party manufacturers made many different nubus cards for
macs, all without any apple-specific components, as the original poster
incorrectly claimed.

Some Macs used regular PCI.

all macs since 1995 use pci.

A later model used 3.3V PCI cards (um...)

so do pcs. so what?

My Mac G4 has an AGP slot for video. To convert
between PC and Mac video, requires four signal
modifications. I changed my Mac video card to run
on the PC... because after only *one* OS version,
no more drivers for the card were supplied. I used
that card for gaming on the PC for at least five
years. Until something better came along (new PC box).

that's a driver issue.

third party cards worked without any apple-specific components, as the
original poster incorrectly claimed.

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

nospam wrote:

Some Macs used regular PCI.

all macs since 1995 use pci.

A later model used 3.3V PCI cards (um...)

so do pcs. so what?

There is a Mac that uses 3.3V *only* PCI cards.

Which is a customer antagonistic choice that
goes against market trends. It makes
it difficult *on purpose* for a customer
to use the slots in the machine they paid for.

I always used to fill the slots on my Mac.
The PTP250 had six slots (on two bus segments)
and the machine was full, plus I had a couple
more cards I could fit if needed. I have more than
enough cards to fill my Mac G4 (two SCSI cards, an
ACard IDE card, and so on).

But customer antagonistic or just plain stupid
(+25V on the video card, to power the monitor),
was the name of the game. If there was
a dumb way to do things, they'd find it.

Like, even today, there are companies
falling all over themselves to remove
the *headphone jack* on mobile devices.
An item in the news a day or two ago, shows
a customer survey was carried out, where
something like 80% of customers used the headphone
jack. So what did the company do in that case ?
Why, remove the headphone jack.

What kind of an upside-down world are we living in ?
Customer antagonism at every turn.

Paul

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

In article , Paul
wrote:

A later model used 3.3V PCI cards (um...)

so do pcs. so what?

There is a Mac that uses 3.3V *only* PCI cards.

nothing recent and wasn't an issue anyway.

Which is a customer antagonistic choice that
goes against market trends. It makes
it difficult *on purpose* for a customer
to use the slots in the machine they paid for.

nonsense, and most people don't use (or even have) slots anyway.

the vast majority of computers sold, both mac and pc, are laptops,
which are outsold by smartphones.



Like, even today, there are companies
falling all over themselves to remove
the *headphone jack* on mobile devices.
An item in the news a day or two ago, shows
a customer survey was carried out, where
something like 80% of customers used the headphone
jack. So what did the company do in that case ?
Why, remove the headphone jack.

there is a headphone jack, it's just digital.

the reason why the analog headphone jack was removed is because it's no
longer needed anymore and the space, which is at an extreme premium on
a smartphone, can be better used for *other* purposes.

compatible digital headphones are included in the box, which plug into
the bottom of the phone, or the person can use bluetooth headphones,
which is becoming *very* common and overtaking wired headphones.

it's a non-issue.

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

On 9/15/2018 8:08 PM, nospam wrote:

there is a [iPhone] headphone jack, it's just digital.

I notice that the dangling dongle is no longer included with the new
Apple phones. It's an extra 9 bucks if wanted. A continuing Apple
customer wean job from the standard wired headphone... ;)

it's a non-issue.

Agreed. Still tons of other smartphones with headphone holes to choose
from.

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

In article , 123456789
wrote:


there is a [iPhone] headphone jack, it's just digital.

I notice that the dangling dongle is no longer included with the new
Apple phones. It's an extra 9 bucks if wanted. A continuing Apple
customer wean job from the standard wired headphone... ;)

wired headphones are in the box and plug in without any adapter, or use
bluetooth headphones. very few people need an adapter.

the first android phone, 10 years ago, did not have an analog headphone
jack and didn't include an adapter. prior to that, flip phones used a
non-standard 2.5mm analog headphone jack and didn't include an adapter.

it's a non-issue.

Agreed. Still tons of other smartphones with headphone holes to choose
from.

not for long. the analog headphone jack is eventually going away, to be
replaced with something far more capable. right now, it's a transition
period, which is always a hassle.

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 20:14:43 -0400, Paul
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 10:24:40 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

My Epson 830XL AIO refuses to accept a new BW ink cartridge. The
printer has two BW cartridges, so-called 410 and410XL. Says I need to
replace them. I did and it says the new ones are not acceptable. The
new one is labelled 'compatible with 410XL from LDProducts.com.
you mean your epson printer refuses to accept counterfeit cartridges.

Does this printer have to have genuine Epson cartridges?
yes, or at least ones that are properly cloned.


I blew my printer name. I shud have said Epson XP830.
The new cartridges are remanufactures, not genuine.
The error screen says 'you need to replace the following carts:
410, 410XL.
My old carts were said to need to be replaced too.
Epson will not answer my email queries. Neither will ink dealers I
tried.

All other sites I see on Google want me to pay for expert helps.
Thanks
J

The Google search engine is quite fickle now.
Some parts of the day, I just get gibberish for
search results. Just now, I tried again, and
at least I'm seeing procedures returned to try out.
My search terms we

"Epson XP830 override chip"

https://www.techwalla.com/articles/h...one-cartridges

Cloned ink cartridges may confuse the Epson printer.

Step 1 Install your cloned ink cartridge into the Epson printer.
Step 2 Go to "Start Control Panel" on your computer.
Step 3 Double-click on "Printer."
Step 4 Right-click on the icon of your Epson printer and
choose "Printer Preferences" at the bottom of the dialog box.
Step 5 Click on the tab entitled "Speed and Progress" and see
the Epson printer monitor box.
Step 6 Check off the box that says "Disable Epson Status Monitor"
to turn off the ink monitor.
Step 7 Click "Save" and close the windows.
Your cloned ink cartridges should now work.

HTH,
Paul

Wow
Thanks
I'll try it for sure
Johnny

Epson XP 830 Ink Cartridge Problem
 

On 9/16/2018 3:36 AM, nospam wrote:

wired [iPhone digital] headphones are in the box and plug in without
any adapter

The headphones included in my phone's box plug into all my devices
(including my W10 devices) no adapter needed.

or use bluetooth headphones.

Lose a wired headphone, gain a headphone charger?

the first android phone, 10 years ago, did not have an analog
headphone jack and didn't include an adapter.

I agree with you that a 10 year old Android phone is equivalent to a
modern iPhone (no analog jack). Fortunately Android phones have
progressed... ;)