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sharkman March 5th 10 05:02 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
Are there any out there?
thanks\
sharkman

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Bruce Hagen[_2_] March 5th 10 05:20 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
"sharkman" wrote in message
...
Are there any out there?
thanks\
sharkman

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Microsoft Answers Windows 7 Forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
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MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA



Bruce Hagen[_2_] March 5th 10 05:20 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
"sharkman" wrote in message
...
Are there any out there?
thanks\
sharkman

--


Microsoft Answers Windows 7 Forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...egory/windows7
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA



Ken Blake, MVP March 5th 10 06:29 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP March 5th 10 06:29 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Leonard Grey[_3_] March 5th 10 07:23 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.

The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different
from the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.

It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication
should constitute a significant portion of its official support for
Windows 7. Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums.
The advantage is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The
disadvantage is: Big Brother is watching.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org



Leonard Grey[_3_] March 5th 10 07:23 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 

This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.

The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different
from the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.

It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication
should constitute a significant portion of its official support for
Windows 7. Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums.
The advantage is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The
disadvantage is: Big Brother is watching.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org



sharkman March 5th 10 08:22 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
Thanks, Ken.
I found that one and there is a lot of bullcrap going on there.. I was
hoping for a moderated one like the ones for XP that I enjoyed so much when
I was running XP..
sharkman

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


--
Shafer - President of the Professional Web Surfers Association of America,
PofP, CEO HRWB, Official bb and everywhere pointgiver.


sharkman March 5th 10 08:22 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
Thanks, Ken.
I found that one and there is a lot of bullcrap going on there.. I was
hoping for a moderated one like the ones for XP that I enjoyed so much when
I was running XP..
sharkman

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


--
Shafer - President of the Professional Web Surfers Association of America,
PofP, CEO HRWB, Official bb and everywhere pointgiver.


sharkman March 5th 10 08:25 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
Thanks Leonard..

sharkman

"Leonard Grey" wrote in message
...

This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.

The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different from
the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.

It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication should
constitute a significant portion of its official support for Windows 7.
Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums. The advantage
is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The disadvantage is:
Big Brother is watching.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine. However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7
newsgroup: alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not
yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Shafer - President of the Professional Web Surfers Association of America,
PofP, CEO HRWB, Official bb and everywhere pointgiver.


sharkman March 5th 10 08:25 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
Thanks Leonard..

sharkman

"Leonard Grey" wrote in message
...

This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.

The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different from
the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.

It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication should
constitute a significant portion of its official support for Windows 7.
Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums. The advantage
is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The disadvantage is:
Big Brother is watching.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine. However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7
newsgroup: alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not
yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Shafer - President of the Professional Web Surfers Association of America,
PofP, CEO HRWB, Official bb and everywhere pointgiver.


Ken Blake, MVP March 5th 10 08:52 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:22:57 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Thanks, Ken.
I found that one and there is a lot of bullcrap going on there..



Certainly true. But judicious use of your killfile eliminates a lot of
it.


I was
hoping for a moderated one like the ones for XP that I enjoyed so much when
I was running XP..





"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


--
Shafer - President of the Professional Web Surfers Association of America,
PofP, CEO HRWB, Official bb and everywhere pointgiver.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP March 5th 10 08:52 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 

On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:22:57 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Thanks, Ken.
I found that one and there is a lot of bullcrap going on there..



Certainly true. But judicious use of your killfile eliminates a lot of
it.


I was
hoping for a moderated one like the ones for XP that I enjoyed so much when
I was running XP..





"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


--
Shafer - President of the Professional Web Surfers Association of America,
PofP, CEO HRWB, Official bb and everywhere pointgiver.


--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP March 5th 10 09:00 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:23:53 -0500, Leonard Grey
wrote:

This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.

The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different
from the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.



True, but newsgroups can be moderated too. And I would have greatly
preferred that, even if the moderation were imperfect. Also note that
some newsgroups (for example, the Corel WordPerfect newsgroups) are
public, but not echoed to every news server in the world; doing that
non-echoing could have made the moderation near perfect, as it is on
the Corel WordPerfect newsgroups.


It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication
should constitute a significant portion of its official support for
Windows 7. Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums.
The advantage is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The
disadvantage is: Big Brother is watching.




From my perspective, there's another *much* bigger (at least to me)
disadvantage. It's much slower to participate in web-based forums
(even using the nntp bridge, which I do), than in newsgroups. I do
participate but because it takes me so much longer, my participation
is at a lower level.


Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org



--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP March 5th 10 09:00 PM

Microsoft public windows 7 newsgroup
 
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:23:53 -0500, Leonard Grey
wrote:

This is all my opinion, so I hope everyone likes salt.

The experience of a moderated, owned web forum can be very different
from the experience of an essentially unmoderated public newsgroup.



True, but newsgroups can be moderated too. And I would have greatly
preferred that, even if the moderation were imperfect. Also note that
some newsgroups (for example, the Corel WordPerfect newsgroups) are
public, but not echoed to every news server in the world; doing that
non-echoing could have made the moderation near perfect, as it is on
the Corel WordPerfect newsgroups.


It seems that Microsoft has decided that peer-to-peer communication
should constitute a significant portion of its official support for
Windows 7. Therefore, they instituted moderated, controlled web forums.
The advantage is: You're more likely to find authoritative help. The
disadvantage is: Big Brother is watching.




From my perspective, there's another *much* bigger (at least to me)
disadvantage. It's much slower to participate in web-based forums
(even using the nntp bridge, which I do), than in newsgroups. I do
participate but because it takes me so much longer, my participation
is at a lower level.


Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 12:02:33 -0500, "sharkman"
wrote:

Are there any out there?



Unfortunately it's highly unlikely that there will be any Microsoft
Windows 7 newsgroups. Apparently Microsoft has decided that web-based
forums are better than newsgroups and they are putting their efforts
there. I'm personally sorry that's the case, but it's their decision,
not mine.

However there is at least one non-Microsoft Windows 7 newsgroup:
alt.windows7.general. Not all servers carry it (at least not yet), but
here's one free news server that does: aioe.org



--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003
Please Reply to the Newsgroup


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