Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 6:47 PM:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

I agree and I don't like the way they handled the menu. IMHO they
botched it again. What in the world was wrong with Windows 7 menu?
Then add some functionality to get the the start screen if you want it.
If I'm a desktop user I surely don't need tiles in any fashion. They
hold no value for a desktop. My mouse pointer isn't that big.

I may just stay on 8.1 till it dies (or I do) if 10 doesn't get that
much better. I paid $39.99 for win8, if 10 is free, I might go up. My
3rd party menu works and fixes the menu so why not if it's free.

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:10:03 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 6:47 PM:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change.
Turning off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it
:-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

I agree and I don't like the way they handled the menu. IMHO they
botched it again. What in the world was wrong with Windows 7 menu?
Then add some functionality to get the the start screen if you want it.
If I'm a desktop user I surely don't need tiles in any fashion. They
hold no value for a desktop. My mouse pointer isn't that big.

I may just stay on 8.1 till it dies (or I do) if 10 doesn't get that
much better. I paid $39.99 for win8, if 10 is free, I might go up. My
3rd party menu works and fixes the menu so why not if it's free.

You can get rid of the tiles on the desktop menu simply by right clicking
each one in turn and unpinning it. When the last one is gone the sidebar
on the menu disappears.
You can access any of the Modern Interface tiles from the desktop start
menu by clicking on the "All Apps" bit at the bottom. A column of
miniaturised tile icons then appears in the menu.

Apologies if you were already aware of this.

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

On 11/03/2014 05:47 PM, John Aldred wrote:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?




Win8x has been nothing but problems for the people whose computers I
must support.

I've seen it terrorize just too many people who are just plain never
going to learn how to use a computer other than by rote.


I've had to install Classic Shell on every Win8 machine I've worked on...
and it's not just the older people, I have not seen any of the younger
generation like it either.

Win8 is fine on tablets though and I think Win10 will be more popular

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

Sounds right to me! I wont be getting it in class but that's cool, I still
like using XP 32bit and because it sounds like a direction I was thinking
they might should repeat from NT to XP, and missing 9 sort of illuminates
that. I thought 8 had multiple desktops, thus I believe they may have went
back to XP SP3 then dressed in sneakers.. Case dismissed.


"John Aldred" wrote in message
...
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 7:35 PM:
On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:10:03 -0500, Big_Al wrote:

John Aldred wrote on 11/3/2014 6:47 PM:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change.
Turning off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it
:-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

I agree and I don't like the way they handled the menu. IMHO they
botched it again. What in the world was wrong with Windows 7 menu?
Then add some functionality to get the the start screen if you want it.
If I'm a desktop user I surely don't need tiles in any fashion. They
hold no value for a desktop. My mouse pointer isn't that big.

I may just stay on 8.1 till it dies (or I do) if 10 doesn't get that
much better. I paid $39.99 for win8, if 10 is free, I might go up. My
3rd party menu works and fixes the menu so why not if it's free.

You can get rid of the tiles on the desktop menu simply by right clicking
each one in turn and unpinning it. When the last one is gone the sidebar
on the menu disappears.
You can access any of the Modern Interface tiles from the desktop start
menu by clicking on the "All Apps" bit at the bottom. A column of
miniaturised tile icons then appears in the menu.

Apologies if you were already aware of this.

I did, but it's more the point, 'Tiles on the desktop?' I'm a
perfectionist at heart, and I'm sure I'll never be satisfied :-)

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

John Aldred wrote:

You can get rid of the tiles on the desktop menu simply by right clicking
each one in turn and unpinning it. When the last one is gone the sidebar
on the menu disappears.

Thanks for that, I'd wondered if it was possible, or you were forced to
keep a sprinkling of tiles. Still, I don't think I'll be rushing to
replace Win8+Start8.

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.

I therefore need 32 bit version.

My desktop is full of shortcuts of desktop programs.

I am disappointed that "send to desktop" option is still missing
in the new start list. One has to go to "file location" to do that.

I would like big "show desktop" icon task bar. I have a third party
program that gives me that.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ut-create.html

HS

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

HS wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.
I therefore need 32 bit version.

DOSbox or DOSemu?

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

On 04/11/2014 4:41 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
HS wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.
I therefore need 32 bit version.

DOSbox or DOSemu?

Exactly. I can't imagine that there is still a need for there to be
integrated DOS support in light of the existence of free software to
create virtual environments and then run FreeDOS as well as DOS
emulation software which is 100% compatible.

I especially don't think that it makes sense for Microsoft to cater to
these legacy users and compromise on new features to please them. If you
still need to run DOS applications, either run an older version of
Windows which runs them properly or do the right thing and run them
within an emulator of some sort.

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Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

Silver Slimer wrote:
On 04/11/2014 4:41 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
HS wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.
I therefore need 32 bit version.

DOSbox or DOSemu?

Exactly. I can't imagine that there is still a need for there to be
integrated DOS support in light of the existence of free software to
create virtual environments and then run FreeDOS as well as DOS
emulation software which is 100% compatible.

I especially don't think that it makes sense for Microsoft to cater to
these legacy users and compromise on new features to please them. If you
still need to run DOS applications, either run an older version of
Windows which runs them properly or do the right thing and run them
within an emulator of some sort.


Yes, I'm all for gutting an OS, until there's nothing left.
"All I really need to do all day, is update my Facebook page."
(Plays with long blonde trusses and chews bubblegum.) /s

Paul

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

HS wrote on 11/4/2014 4:23 AM:


Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.

I therefore need 32 bit version.

My desktop is full of shortcuts of desktop programs.

I am disappointed that "send to desktop" option is still missing
in the new start list. One has to go to "file location" to do that.

I would like big "show desktop" icon task bar. I have a third party
program that gives me that.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ut-create.html


HS

You know you can make a "send to" anywhere item in that right click
context list! Just open:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\SendTo folder and
make shortcuts to other places there. I like to save wallpapers so I
have a wallpapers folder in my pictures directory. I just right click
that wallpapers folder and drag it to the "sendto" folder and release
and pick "make shortcut here". Simple as pie.

Note the AppData is a hidden folder.

Win 8 has a show desktop. Bottom right corner, just click and the
desktop is made visable. Is that what you mean. I think the same is in
10, but don't hold me to it.

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

Big_Al wrote on 11/4/2014 12:34 PM:
HS wrote on 11/4/2014 4:23 AM:


Surprised they haven't dropped 32bit version of Win10.

In my office I have one DOS program that I use.

I therefore need 32 bit version.

My desktop is full of shortcuts of desktop programs.

I am disappointed that "send to desktop" option is still missing
in the new start list. One has to go to "file location" to do that.

I would like big "show desktop" icon task bar. I have a third party
program that gives me that.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ut-create.html



HS

You know you can make a "send to" anywhere item in that right click
context list! Just open:
C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Wind ows\SendTo folder and
make shortcuts to other places there. I like to save wallpapers so I
have a wallpapers folder in my pictures directory. I just right click
that wallpapers folder and drag it to the "sendto" folder and release
and pick "make shortcut here". Simple as pie.

Note the AppData is a hidden folder.

Win 8 has a show desktop. Bottom right corner, just click and the
desktop is made visable. Is that what you mean. I think the same is in
10, but don't hold me to it.

I just noticed there is a "desktop (create shortcut)" there already, but
you could also make a shortcut to desktop and have both. One item would
send it to the desktop and make a shortcut to it, the other would just
send it to the desktop. You'd have the best of both worlds.

Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

John Aldred wrote:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?


Too early to tell. W10TP release is still in the embryonic stage.
- relative to Win8.1 - version 10TP is 8.1 with some eye candy

--
....winston
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Impressions of Win 10 TP so far
 

John Aldred wrote:
My own impression of Win 10 TP is that it is not sufficiently different
from 8.1 to merit skipping a version number and going to 10.

Bringing back the Start Menu to the desktop is a welcome change. Turning
off the hot corner for the Charms Bar is a debatable point.
Adding additional desktops could be useful.
Overall I don't see these changes as sufficient to shake off the bad
press that win 8 received.

Personally I didn't have a problem with 8.1 - in fact I rather like it :-)

What do others think of Microsoft's new offering?

"...winston‫" escreveu wrote ...

Too early to tell. W10TP release is still in the embryonic stage.
- relative to Win8.1 - version 10TP is 8.1 with some eye candy

I had one thing to say relatively to size in disk. I installed TP build 9841
and Windows Live Mail then updated to build 9860, now I have more then 27 GB
of used space. If I had a 32 GB tablet, I would be compromised.