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slate_leeper March 22nd 18 12:31 AM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock. The last error
listed says it was 03/21/18 at 7:50 PM. There were several others with
times after the actual time. I know, forecasts G.

I'd appreciate any wisdom from you folks.

-dan z-


--
Someone who thinks logically provides
a nice contrast to the real world.
(Anonymous)

Bob_S[_2_] March 22nd 18 12:53 AM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
"slate_leeper" wrote in message
...

I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock. The last error
listed says it was 03/21/18 at 7:50 PM. There were several others with
times after the actual time. I know, forecasts G.

I'd appreciate any wisdom from you folks.

-dan z-




Dan,

You are running the "Creators Update" version 1703. The next version is
1709 which is the Fall Creators update.

1. Do a search from the lower left corner near the Start icon. You may have
a a Search window or a magnifier icon. Just enter Dial-Up and that will
take you to the settings page and related setting on the right side.

2. Difficult to say why since you didn't state what kind of service you are
using but sounds like phone line. Could be lousy DSL, A-DSL or whatever but
open a browser window and do a search for Speed Test. I like the SpeakEasy
site: https://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

3. Double click on the time and date on the task bar (far right side) and
that will open a window with time, date and calendar. At the bottom of that
window, click on the Date and time settings to bring up the next window
where you can adjust settings for everything related. Time zone, date and
time can be set. I have seen the same thing as you but have never looked
into exactly why or what caused it.

You could type Reliability into the search window and that will bring up
historical graph and text entries at the bottom of the graph. Pick a date
and then see if you can find any entries that relate to time.
--


Bob S.


Lucifer Morningstar[_2_] March 22nd 18 06:11 AM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:31:51 -0400, slate_leeper
wrote:

I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock.


That could be your problem. The date is incorrect.
There is no 21st month.


The last error
listed says it was 03/21/18 at 7:50 PM. There were several others with
times after the actual time. I know, forecasts G.

I'd appreciate any wisdom from you folks.


Fix the date first.

-dan z-


Monty March 22nd 18 10:23 AM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:11:20 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:31:51 -0400, slate_leeper
wrote:

I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock.


That could be your problem. The date is incorrect.
There is no 21st month.


Month-Day-Year is the American date system and has been for centuries.
If you look at the Header information you will see that his time zone
is -0400 hrs. That time zone indicates that he could on the east
coast of America.

Personally, I prefer the Year-Month-Day date system.


slate_leeper March 22nd 18 12:54 PM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:11:20 +1100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:31:51 -0400, slate_leeper
wrote:

I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock.


That could be your problem. The date is incorrect.
There is no 21st month.


The last error
listed says it was 03/21/18 at 7:50 PM. There were several others with
times after the actual time. I know, forecasts G.

I'd appreciate any wisdom from you folks.


Fix the date first.

-dan z-



Thanks, Lucifer, but the date is correct (U.S. standards): March 21,
2018.


--
Someone who thinks logically provides
a nice contrast to the real world.
(Anonymous)

Keith Nuttle March 22nd 18 12:58 PM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
On 3/22/2018 2:11 AM, Lucifer Morningstar wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:31:51 -0400, slate_leeper
wrote:

I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock.


That could be your problem. The date is incorrect.
There is no 21st month.


The last error
listed says it was 03/21/18 at 7:50 PM. There were several others with
times after the actual time. I know, forecasts G.

I'd appreciate any wisdom from you folks.


Fix the date first.

-dan z-

Depends on whether you are using the European dates or the US.

03/21/18 on a European configured systems it would be as you say there
is no 21st month.

However in a system configured to the US system 03/21/18 is
March 21, 2018 Or yesterdays date.

--
2018: The year we learn to play the great game of Euchre

slate_leeper March 22nd 18 01:15 PM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 

Dan,

You are running the "Creators Update" version 1703. The next version is
1709 which is the Fall Creators update.

1. Do a search from the lower left corner near the Start icon. You may have
a a Search window or a magnifier icon. Just enter Dial-Up and that will
take you to the settings page and related setting on the right side.

2. Difficult to say why since you didn't state what kind of service you are
using but sounds like phone line. Could be lousy DSL, A-DSL or whatever but
open a browser window and do a search for Speed Test. I like the SpeakEasy
site: https://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

3. Double click on the time and date on the task bar (far right side) and
that will open a window with time, date and calendar. At the bottom of that
window, click on the Date and time settings to bring up the next window
where you can adjust settings for everything related. Time zone, date and
time can be set. I have seen the same thing as you but have never looked
into exactly why or what caused it.

You could type Reliability into the search window and that will bring up
historical graph and text entries at the bottom of the graph. Pick a date
and then see if you can find any entries that relate to time.



Thanks for all this info, Bob. Today is full day with vet and doctor
appointments, so I probably won't get back to the Win-10 machine until
tomorrow.

problem 2 (updates):

Connected via ComCast. The Win7 machine consistently shows download
speeds of 456 kbps. (NetPerSec graph and averages). I used to live in
the country with only satellite service. A max of 66 kbps, and usually
much less. That is why I have not gone to Win-10 before now.

I think that problem 2 is fixed, though. I stumbled upon Windows
Update Troubleshooter. It said corrupted data base and also some
registry errors (on a brand new machine?). I let it fix both, and
update APPEARS to be working OK now.

I'll report back on problems 1 and 3 after I get more time on the
machine.

Someone needs to write a book on Win-10 basics. But I'm guessing it
would be obsolete long before it could even be printed.

-dan z-


--
Someone who thinks logically provides
a nice contrast to the real world.
(Anonymous)

Char Jackson March 22nd 18 04:22 PM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 09:15:37 -0400, slate_leeper
wrote:

Connected via ComCast. The Win7 machine consistently shows download
speeds of 456 kbps. (NetPerSec graph and averages).


Comcast doesn't have any service offerings that are that low, so
something is seriously wrong.

Browse to http://192.168.100.1 (most cable modems have a web server at
that address) and check your signal levels.

Downstream signal should be within +-15dBmV, or ideally within +-10dBmV.
Zero or slightly positive is where you want to be.

Downstream SNR should be at least 35dB, and 40-45dB would be better.
Higher is better.

Upstream signal should be less than about 52dBmV. 45 or 40 or even
35dBmV would be better. Lower is better.



slate_leeper March 22nd 18 09:26 PM

Couple of Win-10 questions
 
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:53:23 -0400, "Bob_S" wrote:

"slate_leeper" wrote in message
.. .

I'm pretty familiar with Win7-Pro, but just got my first Win-10-Pro
system

DELL XPS-8930
Win-10-Pro 10.0.15063

Question 1: Where is the control to set the maximum download speed of
the connection (I want to use a "throttled" or "metered" connection to
limit update downloads.) It is not in the Windows Update settings or
advanced settings as some web sites describe.

Question 2: Update seems to take forever. After listing four updates,
including a cumulative one, it took hours to download them. It then
went into "preparing to install," where it is now at 12% after about
four hours.

Question 3:: I looked at the windows error reporting. That was today
3/21/18 at 7:09 PM as shown on the desktop clock. The last error
listed says it was 03/21/18 at 7:50 PM. There were several others with
times after the actual time. I know, forecasts G.

I'd appreciate any wisdom from you folks.

-dan z-




Dan,

You are running the "Creators Update" version 1703. The next version is
1709 which is the Fall Creators update.

1. Do a search from the lower left corner near the Start icon. You may have
a a Search window or a magnifier icon. Just enter Dial-Up and that will
take you to the settings page and related setting on the right side.


I did finally find a web page that matches my version of Win-10
https://winaero.com/blog/ethernet-co...ed-windows-10/



3. Double click on the time and date on the task bar (far right side) and
that will open a window with time, date and calendar. At the bottom of that
window, click on the Date and time settings to bring up the next window
where you can adjust settings for everything related. Time zone, date and
time can be set. I have seen the same thing as you but have never looked
into exactly why or what caused it.


Doing this I discovered it was set for central time even though I
originally set it for eastern. Strange. Still doesn't explain (to me
anyway) why the log's times would be almost an hour ahead of the
system time.

You could type Reliability into the search window and that will bring up
historical graph and text entries at the bottom of the graph. Pick a date
and then see if you can find any entries that relate to time.


Nothing shows other than a bunch of "successful" things apparently
related to Windows Update.

-dan z-


--
Someone who thinks logically provides
a nice contrast to the real world.
(Anonymous)


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