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small network is all fouled up ...
I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the
machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. What's going on here? |
small network is all fouled up ...
Uolricus te Erlake wrote:
I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
small network is all fouled up ...
Uolricus te Erlake wrote:
I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
small network is all fouled up ...
Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two
routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
small network is all fouled up ...
Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two
routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ |
small network is all fouled up ...
Uolricus te Erlake wrote:
Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Yes, with the caveat that the cable from router 1 to router 2 must connect to one of router 2's LAN ports. Leave the WAN/Internet port on router 2 open. You might also want to configure router 2's LAN-facing IP to be in the same subnet used by router 1's DHCP server but outside the range of addresses allocated by that DHCP server. -- Lem -- MS-MVP Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
small network is all fouled up ...
Uolricus te Erlake wrote:
Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Yes, with the caveat that the cable from router 1 to router 2 must connect to one of router 2's LAN ports. Leave the WAN/Internet port on router 2 open. You might also want to configure router 2's LAN-facing IP to be in the same subnet used by router 1's DHCP server but outside the range of addresses allocated by that DHCP server. -- Lem -- MS-MVP Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
small network is all fouled up ...
I've done that ... BUT ... the resources on the remote computer are still
not accessible, though they themselves believe they are shared. What am I doing wrong? "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Yes, with the caveat that the cable from router 1 to router 2 must connect to one of router 2's LAN ports. Leave the WAN/Internet port on router 2 open. You might also want to configure router 2's LAN-facing IP to be in the same subnet used by router 1's DHCP server but outside the range of addresses allocated by that DHCP server. -- Lem -- MS-MVP Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
small network is all fouled up ...
I've done that ... BUT ... the resources on the remote computer are still
not accessible, though they themselves believe they are shared. What am I doing wrong? "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Yes, with the caveat that the cable from router 1 to router 2 must connect to one of router 2's LAN ports. Leave the WAN/Internet port on router 2 open. You might also want to configure router 2's LAN-facing IP to be in the same subnet used by router 1's DHCP server but outside the range of addresses allocated by that DHCP server. -- Lem -- MS-MVP Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
small network is all fouled up ...
Hi
Check the IPs of the computers, and make sure that they are all on the same subnet. I.e. the first three groups of each computer's IP number must be the same. If they are all on the same subnet undo and redo the shares of the downstream computers. If they are Not on the same subnet read these two pages. Using a Wireless Router as a switch with an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html Network Segregation - http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html The pages where written for Wireless, but the same logic applies to Wire too. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking). "Uolricus te Erlake" wrote in message ... I've done that ... BUT ... the resources on the remote computer are still not accessible, though they themselves believe they are shared. What am I doing wrong? "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Yes, with the caveat that the cable from router 1 to router 2 must connect to one of router 2's LAN ports. Leave the WAN/Internet port on router 2 open. You might also want to configure router 2's LAN-facing IP to be in the same subnet used by router 1's DHCP server but outside the range of addresses allocated by that DHCP server. -- Lem -- MS-MVP Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
small network is all fouled up ...
Hi
Check the IPs of the computers, and make sure that they are all on the same subnet. I.e. the first three groups of each computer's IP number must be the same. If they are all on the same subnet undo and redo the shares of the downstream computers. If they are Not on the same subnet read these two pages. Using a Wireless Router as a switch with an Access Point - http://www.ezlan.net/router_AP.html Network Segregation - http://www.ezlan.net/shield.html The pages where written for Wireless, but the same logic applies to Wire too. Jack (MS, MVP-Networking). "Uolricus te Erlake" wrote in message ... I've done that ... BUT ... the resources on the remote computer are still not accessible, though they themselves believe they are shared. What am I doing wrong? "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: Well this isn't entirely clear. There's a 50-foot cable between the two routers, and, initially, I wanted a wireless link, but, having now routed a cable between office and lab, I merely want to use the added ports on the second router. If that's using it as a switch, that's now now it's configured. However, the problem persists. I have disabled the downstream router's DHCP, so, presumably, the first router will distribute NAT addresses. Is that what I should have done? "Malke" wrote in message ... Uolricus te Erlake wrote: I have two routers and a cable modem with several computers. However, the machine colocated with the cable modem can't "see" the ones downstream, though they can "see" (at least PING) it. I thought I set up the network identically on each machine but don't even have a network access icon in the taskbar on that one machine. None of the machines "see" each other in Network Neighborhood, nor do they "see" what's in their workgroup. They have, of course, been assigned to the same workgroup. Why do you have two routers? If you have two routers, I would expect the results to be exactly as they are - two separate networks. If what you really want the second router for is more wireless coverage, you need to turn off DHCP on one of the routers and turn it into a wireless access point instead or if wireless isn't desired disable that capability in the router as well as DHCP and just use it as a switch. Then all machines will be on the same network and can share files/printers. Malke -- MS-MVP Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic! http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ Yes, with the caveat that the cable from router 1 to router 2 must connect to one of router 2's LAN ports. Leave the WAN/Internet port on router 2 open. You might also want to configure router 2's LAN-facing IP to be in the same subnet used by router 1's DHCP server but outside the range of addresses allocated by that DHCP server. -- Lem -- MS-MVP Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/ap...0th/index.html |
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